What do you think about UKIP?

[Gallup]

Proof?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/United_Kin ... ence_Party

The UKIP Policy Statement on Health from 2010 endorses a number of alternative medicine practices including herbal medicine, homeopathy and traditional Chinese medicine, and calls for the repeal of bans on herbal medicine. On homeopathy, the policy argues against the House of Commons Science and Technology select committee report which blasted homeopathy on the NHS as running counter to the practice of evidence-based medicine:
“”UKIP rejects the recent House of Commons report on homeopathy as an unbalanced and short-sighted dismissal of a branch of medicine that last year treated 54,000 people on the NHS. UKIP endorses the remarks of the Chief Executive of the British Homeopathic Association who pointed out that "the [select committee] inquiry was too narrow in its remit, there is plenty of evidence to support homeopathy, with 100 randomised controlled trials, and many more on outcome measures, which reflect how patients say they feel." UKIP believes that homeopathy has much to offer patients and notes that in a recent survey carried out at England's NHS homeopathic hospitals, some 70 per cent of patients said they felt some improvement after undergoing treatment. UKIP will continue to support homeopathy through the NHS.

UKIP have responded to criticism of this policy by arguing that it is a 2010 statement, while the 2012 policy makes no mention of alternative medicine.

Although the last line seems to indicate that they have since backed away from this insanity.

If they've truly denounced it, good. But I'd probably not vote for them after that.

[Greater-London]

Voter apathy breaks the system.

Sadly, it only breaks it such that a shit party who very few people actually vote for get into power.

Agreed but I like most other people in the UK aren't remotely apathetic about politics - I for one spoil my ballot, they are always counted and the number given at the end. Disdain for our current political parties is the opposite from apathy.

[Malgrave]

UKIP gladly spread misinformation and hatred about immigrants, hate science with a passion (anti-climate change and pro-homoeopathy), wish to destroy current equality, anti-hate speech and workplace safety regulation and they are the most socially backwards party that receive quite a bit of representation of mainstream TV. UKIP are the BNP in suits and I despise the fact that they are dragging the larger parties to the right on subjects like immigration.

[Shove Piggy Shove]

I will vote for whoever is the most likely to stop the Tories from getting in, which where I currently live would be Lib Dem. The only way I could see myself voting Tory was if it was the only realistic option for keeping a party like UKIP/BNP out.

I don't see myself voting LibDem at any point. They're spineless. Better than the Tories, of course.

Of course, am I right in thinking that you are in the London area? In which case, you're likely to be in a more politically diverse climate than myself - I'm in Essex, which has a sum total of 1 non-Tory MP (and he's Lib Dem)

[Alf Landon]

I personally would welcome the return of Clause 4, but as that is unlikely to do anything but hand an election to the Tories on a platter, I must instead make plans to run as far away as I can.

I want a return to Clement Attlee's Labour.

As do I, for the most part. What I love about Attlee was not only did his policies align largely with my own views, he was always a realist. He was well-grounded, and instead of just shouting from the sidelines for the kind of world he wanted, he had the political skills to know how to make it. It's why I'm glad Labour didn't go down the path of the Bennites in the 1980s. Although in reality I agree with an awful lot of what Benn was arguing for, his cohorts especially had their heads totally in the clouds, and frankly saw the world through their own perceptions of how they wanted it to be, rather than how it actually was. That does not conduce itself to getting the political skills needed to actually change things - if they'd got in power, it would have been a disaster. Having said all that, I very much concede New Labour went too far the other way. Between Benn and Blair, I'm very much more a Kinnock fan - on the left of the party, but with much more the political sense to know what's achievable and how it's achievable. Didn't work out for him of course, but as far as the 1980s/90s are concerned he was very much more my cup of tea.

[Divair]

I don't see myself voting LibDem at any point. They're spineless. Better than the Tories, of course.

Of course, am I right in thinking that you are in the London area? In which case, you're likely to be in a more politically diverse climate than myself - I'm in Essex, which has a sum total of 1 non-Tory MP (and he's Lib Dem)

Southwest of London. It's Toryville here.

[Greater-London]

I don't see myself voting LibDem at any point. They're spineless. Better than the Tories, of course.

To be fair I think history will be kind to both Clegg and the LibDem's. He is the junior member of a coalition with his party making up only 21 MP's needed for a majority. He has done the best he can with the hand he was dealt if he threw his toys out the pram everytime the Conservatives did something his party disagreed with people would still hate him but say "Who does he think he is?" "he wont ever compromise" ETC. Alongside this the LibDems have made some very modest gains in the coalition - needless to say the Torries have taken credit for them which is what tends to happen whenever the Liberals do something good.

[Bolrieg]

they're a bunch of useless out of touch arsehole like the rest of the dickheads who are in that nursery everyone calls Westminster

[Regenburg]

It's cancer.

[Gallup]

It's cancer.

How?

[Malgrave]

I don't see myself voting LibDem at any point. They're spineless. Better than the Tories, of course.

Of course, am I right in thinking that you are in the London area? In which case, you're likely to be in a more politically diverse climate than myself - I'm in Essex, which has a sum total of 1 non-Tory MP (and he's Lib Dem)

Another soul that lives in the hell hole that is Essex? My local conservative MP won over 50% of the vote in the last election and it seems a rather impossible task to get him out of that position.

[Alf Landon]

Voter apathy breaks the system.

Sadly, it only breaks it such that a shit party who very few people actually vote for get into power.

Agreed but I like most other people in the UK aren't remotely apathetic about politics - I for one spoil my ballot, they are always counted and the number given at the end. Disdain for our current political parties is the opposite from apathy.

You speak the truth. Most people are interested in politics to one degree or another, but not all have faith in the political system. One of the few things I'm happy about with the rise of UKIP, is it is engaging more people in the political process. People who have said they haven't voted in years, or never at all!

[Greater-London]

they're a bunch of useless out of touch arsehole like the rest of the dickheads who are in that nursery everyone calls Westminster

Wow. Okay fact check UKIP are very much out of the Westminster bubble, they are very much anti-establishment. As for being out of touch, I think your also wrong, notice how they have hoovered up votes from all 3 main political parties and also from people who say they haven't voted in years. Like it or not Farage and his ilk speak for millions of people up and down the United Kingdom in many areas more than our 3 big political parties.

[Shove Piggy Shove]

Of course, am I right in thinking that you are in the London area? In which case, you're likely to be in a more politically diverse climate than myself - I'm in Essex, which has a sum total of 1 non-Tory MP (and he's Lib Dem)

Another soul that lives in the hell hole that is Essex? My local conservative MP won over 50% of the vote in the last election and it seems a rather impossible task to get him out of that position.

I like Essex for the most part, although that might be because I'm in the only non-Tory part...

[Imperializt Russia]

Voter apathy breaks the system.

Sadly, it only breaks it such that a shit party who very few people actually vote for get into power.

Agreed but I like most other people in the UK aren't remotely apathetic about politics - I for one spoil my ballot, they are always counted and the number given at the end. Disdain for our current political parties is the opposite from apathy.

Look at you, so edgy.

Big whoop, you writing in "Batman" at the top of your ballot sheet doesn't achieve squat. Might as well have stayed at home.

[Greater-London]

You speak the truth. Most people are interested in politics to one degree or another, but not all have faith in the political system. One of the few things I'm happy about with the rise of UKIP, is it is engaging more people in the political process. People who have said they haven't voted in years, or never at all!

Exactly, its interesting how membership of political parties has plummeted over the last 50 years but members of political organisations amnesty international, green peace, no2id, peoples pledge ETC have skyrocketed. We are culturally a political country who have been failed by the traditional methods of participation.

[Alf Landon]

Of course, am I right in thinking that you are in the London area? In which case, you're likely to be in a more politically diverse climate than myself - I'm in Essex, which has a sum total of 1 non-Tory MP (and he's Lib Dem)

Southwest of London. It's Toryville here.

I feel your pain brother. I too live in an area that's true-blue. The battle's really down to who will come second.

[Malgrave]

Another soul that lives in the hell hole that is Essex? My local conservative MP won over 50% of the vote in the last election and it seems a rather impossible task to get him out of that position.

I like Essex for the most part, although that might be because I'm in the only non-Tory part...

You are quite lucky then. John Whittingdale, the homophobic Thatcherite is my MP. I'm half-tempted to try and steal his seat in the next election but I know that is an impossible pipe dream >_>

[Shove Piggy Shove]

Southwest of London. It's Toryville here.

I feel your pain brother. I too live in an area that's true-blue. The battle's really down to who will come second.

With any luck, the rise of UKIP will harm the Tory share of the vote, allowing for other parties to make gains at their expense - in an ideal world the Green Party would pick up a few more seats, but I won't be holding my breath on that one.

[Bolrieg]

they're a bunch of useless out of touch arsehole like the rest of the dickheads who are in that nursery everyone calls Westminster

Wow. Okay fact check UKIP are very much out of the Westminster bubble, they are very much anti-establishment. As for being out of touch, I think your also wrong, notice how they have hoovered up votes from all 3 main political parties and also from people who say they haven't voted in years. Like it or not Farage and his ilk speak for millions of people up and down the United Kingdom in many areas more than our 3 big political parties.

Think about this if Farage wants out of the EU why is he in Brussels with politicians who are even worse than our own?

[Greater-London]

Look at you, so edgy.

Big whoop, you writing in "Batman" at the top of your ballot sheet doesn't achieve squat. Might as well have stayed at home.

Firstly I dont go in for the batman shit - If you must know I just do a big cross on my sheet of paper.

Does it achieve much? No i'm under no delusion, but I don't want to vote for anyone offered to me so what else can I do?

The answer is stay at home but I am passionate about democracy and my right to vote. I feel I owe it to the people who don't have that right to get of my arse and go to the polling both.

I sense you were having a go, and I don't quite understand why? I'm not trying to be edgy or clever, I just think what I do is less apathetic than someone saying "hmppff don't like them but I don't want the bloody Torries".

[Ostroeuropa]

The BNP with white collars.

[Shove Piggy Shove]

Look at you, so edgy.

Big whoop, you writing in "Batman" at the top of your ballot sheet doesn't achieve squat. Might as well have stayed at home.

Firstly I dont go in for the batman shit - If you must know I just do a big cross on my sheet of paper.

Does it achieve much? No i'm under no delusion, but I don't want to vote for anyone offered to me so what else can I do?

The answer is stay at home but I am passionate about democracy and my right to vote. I feel I owe it to the people who don't have that right to get of my arse and go to the polling both.

I sense you were having a go, and I don't quite understand why? I'm not trying to be edgy or clever, I just think what I do is less apathetic than someone saying "hmppff don't like them but I don't want the bloody Torries".

I don't see how - at least someone who has made a tactical vote has made a decision and done something which could have an impact. All that happens when you spoil your ballot is that it gets thrown away and you get to feel like you've "stuck it to the man" or whatever, it has absolutely no impact on anything - so why bother?

[Alf Landon]

Wow. Okay fact check UKIP are very much out of the Westminster bubble, they are very much anti-establishment. As for being out of touch, I think your also wrong, notice how they have hoovered up votes from all 3 main political parties and also from people who say they haven't voted in years. Like it or not Farage and his ilk speak for millions of people up and down the United Kingdom in many areas more than our 3 big political parties.

Think about this if Farage wants out of the EU why is he in Brussels with politicians who are even worse than our own?

To be fair, that is not something I criticise UKIP over. If they didn't stand, they'd only be letting in more EU-inclined politicians representing the country. Might as well as milk the bully pulpit for all it's worth. Much the same as how the secessionist SNP and Bloc Québécois stand in UK general and Canadian federal elections respectively.

[Kalarin]

I have no real feelings to them, while they are a fresh face on British Politics to challenge LibLaCon on the other hand they have some odd policies. So in all meh.