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Postby Nation of the Genuine Peoples » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:21 pm

NK needs liberation, but think of the neighbours; South Korea, China and Japan will effectively be at war against it.
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Postby Guadalupador » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:26 pm

Let China go in and replace Kim's government with something at least relatively better. That's the best scenario I can think of.
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Postby The Republic of Llamas » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:37 pm

I'd say we should just march straight into Pyongyang if they didn't have nuclear weapons. That's the trouble; they're the only country with nuclear weapons and sufficient idiocy to use them.

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:42 pm

Nation of the Genuine Peoples wrote:NK needs liberation, but think of the neighbours; South Korea, China and Japan will effectively be at war against it.

Uh, the South Koreans are actually at war with the Norks; the Norks occasionally attack at random. Since there's only an armistice in the Korean War -- not a peace treaty -- and the Norks repeatedly have broken the cease fire, I think the free world should liberate North Korea, by any and all necessary means.

The full UN report (372 pages, copy courtesy of the Beeb) mentions that the North Korean army is starving, so other than neutrailizing their artillery facing Seoul -- a significant challenge -- this may not be so hard...
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:44 pm

The Republic of Llamas wrote:I'd say we should just march straight into Pyongyang if they didn't have nuclear weapons. That's the trouble; they're the only country with nuclear weapons and sufficient idiocy to use them.

They only kinda-sorta have nukes; they've never achieved a proper detonation -- one squib and another low-yield partial detonation -- and they don't appear to have any suitable delivery vehicles. I say whack 'em before they get it right.
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Postby Alyakia » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:45 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
The Republic of Llamas wrote:I'd say we should just march straight into Pyongyang if they didn't have nuclear weapons. That's the trouble; they're the only country with nuclear weapons and sufficient idiocy to use them.

They only kinda-sorta have nukes; they've never achieved a proper detonation -- one squib and another low-yield partial detonation -- and they don't appear to have any suitable delivery vehicles. I say whack 'em before they get it right.


and then they wonder, "why does everyone want nukes so badly???"
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:45 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
The Republic of Llamas wrote:I'd say we should just march straight into Pyongyang if they didn't have nuclear weapons. That's the trouble; they're the only country with nuclear weapons and sufficient idiocy to use them.

They only kinda-sorta have nukes; they've never achieved a proper detonation -- one squib and another low-yield partial detonation -- and they don't appear to have any suitable delivery vehicles. I say whack 'em before they get it right.

But they do have Kim Jong-Un, who, according to state television, is capable of defeating entire armies singlehandedly.
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:46 pm

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Northwest Slobovia wrote:They only kinda-sorta have nukes; they've never achieved a proper detonation -- one squib and another low-yield partial detonation -- and they don't appear to have any suitable delivery vehicles. I say whack 'em before they get it right.

But they do have Kim Jong-Un, who, according to state television, is capable of defeating entire armies singlehandedly.

Probably by sitting on them, tbh.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:47 pm

Arglorand wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:But they do have Kim Jong-Un, who, according to state television, is capable of defeating entire armies singlehandedly.

Probably by sitting on them, tbh.

No, by being a Pokemon master.
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Postby Bolrieg » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:48 pm

so...why haven't they done this sooner?

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Postby Taoju » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:48 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:But they do have Kim Jong-Un, who, according to state television, is capable of defeating entire armies singlehandedly.

Probably by sitting on them, tbh.

He does appear to be like sumo wrestler, so there is that.
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:48 pm

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Arglorand wrote:Probably by sitting on them, tbh.

No, by being a Pokemon master.

Also plausible.
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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:48 pm

Just shut down their government already.
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Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Just shut down their government already.

Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:49 pm

Taoju wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Probably by sitting on them, tbh.

He does appear to be like sumo wrestler, so there is that.

As opposed to Kim Jong-Il, who was a basketball/golf master.
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:49 pm

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Just shut down their government already.

Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:50 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Northwest Slobovia wrote:They only kinda-sorta have nukes; they've never achieved a proper detonation -- one squib and another low-yield partial detonation -- and they don't appear to have any suitable delivery vehicles. I say whack 'em before they get it right.


and then they wonder, "why does everyone want nukes so badly???"

'cept everybody doesn't. The South Africans abandoned their program, and the Ukranians -- for reasons beyond me -- gave the nukes the Soviets left behind to the Russians. Most countries don't have -- and apparently don't want -- nuclear weapons programs.

The Norks are small-time thugs with rusty knives looking to become big-time thugs with guns. That's why they want nukes, and that's why the civilized countries should prevent them from getting them.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:50 pm

Viritica wrote:Bah, this is nothing more than Western propaganda. North Korea is Best Korea! All hail glorious leader Kim Jong-un!

On a serious note, it's about fucking time. However, the UN won't do shit. All they'll do is write a strongly worded letter to an insane dictator with small man's syndrome who couldn't give a fuck.

The UN is no better than the League of Nations. The most they'll do is look to the US to handle this and then the rest of the world will bitch at us for being so imperialist.

I agree.

The UN is useless. They do not keep the peace between the major powers on the planet. It is mutually assured destruction (MAD) that has kept the peace ever since World War II ended.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:51 pm

The current regime in Pyongyang needs to stop existing.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:52 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:The current regime in Pyongyang needs to stop existing.

Or at least use all of its power to make badass action movies, which they totally could.
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Postby Taoju » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:52 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:The current regime in Pyongyang needs to stop existing.

Arglorand wrote:Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:53 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:the Ukranians -- for reasons beyond me -- gave the nukes the Soviets left behind to the Russians.

You see, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, there were negotiations that had to be done.

In order to guarantee that Russia would stop claiming Crimea and dealing with other such difficult subjects for Ukraine, Ukraine handed the nuclear arsenal over. It's not like it could've legally kept it anyway, because being a state with nuclear weapons and not being one of the five identified in the NPT is just kinda... morally difficult to keep up face in the international community, you know. Except for Israel, but that's a special case based on the world being generally very lenient on Israel a lot of the time.
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Postby The Totally Not an Evil Communist Regime » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:54 pm

North Korea world's most best and advanced country. Glorious Democratic People's Republic of Korea's greatest achievement is simply the birth of glorious leader Kim Jong-Un. All greatness comes from glorious leader. Official records show on the day he was born bears soared through the clouds, mountains tearfully embraced, and the moon sang patriotic anthems. Since this great day North Korea has conquered the heavens, harnessed the atom, and fried the chicken.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:57 pm

I honestly hope that one day we'll all find out that North Korea isn't really crazy, but that the only people who speak both Korean and English are all just assholes.
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:58 pm

Taoju wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:The current regime in Pyongyang needs to stop existing.

Arglorand wrote:Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.

That kinda only applied when the post I was responding to involved a government shutdown.

North Korea just quitting existence would only require that George Takei walk up to its border. It would suddenly feel an overwhelming, fierce desire to end itself in the realization that its existence is meek and meaningless.
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Postby Alyakia » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:58 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:I honestly hope that one day we'll all find out that North Korea isn't really crazy, but that the only people who speak both Korean and English are all just assholes.


north korea is in the unfortunate position that anyone can make anything up about it and everyone will just go "huh, that's north korea for you"
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