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by Leningrad Union » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:51 pm
by Geilinor » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:52 pm
Great Zavi wrote:Siaos wrote:But generally whites know where in Europe their ancestors came from and either call themselves that IE Italian-American or just White American. Blacks generally don't know the exact tribe their ancestors came from since the coastal African tribes and Portuguese didn't really care when they were enslaving them. So they have to either call themselves African-American or Black American. Or both they can just call themselves American.
I only find people calling themselves Italian-American, for example, when they have ancestors thats recently come from Italy. But after 400 years?
by The Liberated Territories » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:53 pm
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
He's African. He's from Africa, unless he was actually born in the Netherlands.
Culturally he is Afrikaans. So I could see the term "Afrikaner-American" taking precedence over "African-American" but that doesn't make the second one false.
I'm from AMerica and I'm part Scottish and part Puerto Rican.
by Great Zavi » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:53 pm
Siaos wrote:Great Zavi wrote:I only find people calling themselves Italian-American, for example, when they have ancestors thats recently come from Italy. But after 400 years?
What do you propose we call Americans with genes originating in Africa? We need to call them something for the census, after all.
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by Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:54 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
I'm from AMerica and I'm part Scottish and part Puerto Rican.
So what are you culturally? A blend?
You'll have to make up a new term, then. Although I think I am culturally more American than any ancestry I come from, hence my preference for that label.
by Leningrad Union » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:55 pm
by Great Zavi » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:55 pm
Geilinor wrote:Great Zavi wrote:I only find people calling themselves Italian-American, for example, when they have ancestors thats recently come from Italy. But after 400 years?
I can only help but laugh at your lack of historical knowledge. The vast majority of Italian immigration to the United States occurred in the 19th and early 20th centuries. There was a very small number of Italian-Americans in colonial America, but nothing significant.
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by Cetacea » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:55 pm
by Geilinor » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:56 pm
Great Zavi wrote:Geilinor wrote:I can only help but laugh at your lack of historical knowledge. The vast majority of Italian immigration to the United States occurred in the 19th and early 20th centuries. There was a very small number of Italian-Americans in colonial America, but nothing significant.
Remember what I said about the 3 generations?
by Siaos » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:57 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.
by Forsher » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:57 pm
Great Zavi wrote:Okay people of NationStates, here's a point I would like to bring up for discussion. Recently I've been thinking, why are African-Americans called such a name and not just Americans?
What is the need for that prefix? (The people who were unwillingly brought through the slave trade, just to clarify) I read a different thread and it said once you've been in America after 3 generations the prefix of where ever you're from (Mexican-American, Chinese-American, etc) is no longer used and your just American.
So why, are African- Americans still called such when they've been here for 400 years? And why are White people not called European-American, or German-American etc? Its just another way to separate them from the rest and makes it easier to outcast them. Do these people, after 400 years of separation and a lack of resources to re-connect to Africa, really have any connection to the continent ( which is in it self very culturally diverse) at all? What's your take on this, NSG?
***And why are North Africans considered white?****
by Leningrad Union » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:57 pm
Cetacea wrote:Some people consider ancestral heritage important to be as important as National identty which is legitamate
although there is the continued problem of media still identify black skinned persons as being distinct, I recall a athletics winner who was identified by the commentator as a Black American runner and wondering to myself why her blackness was important to either her running or her representing the US. There is still a dominant perception of 'Normal' within a given society that is reflected in the need to identify ethnic distinctiveness from the 'Norm' and that needs to be challenged.
and isn't someone from Mexico an American-American?:)
and is Obama legitimately an African-American?
by Great Zavi » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:57 pm
God Kefka wrote:Great Zavi wrote:Okay people of NationStates, here's a point I would like to bring up for discussion. Recently I've been thinking, why are African-Americans called such a name and not just Americans? What is the need for that prefix? (The people who were unwillingly brought through the slave trade, just to clarify) I read a different thread and it said once you've been in America after 3 generations the prefix of where ever you're from (Mexican-American, Chinese-American, etc) is no longer used and your just American. So why, are African- Americans still called such when they've been here for 400 years? And why are White people not called European-American, or German-American etc? Its just another way to separate them from the rest and makes it easier to outcast them. Do these people, after 400 years of separation and a lack of resources to re-connect to Africa, really have any connection to the continent ( which is in it self very culturally diverse) at all? What's your take on this, NSG?
***And why are North Africans considered white?****
Because whites are immediately who you think of when someone says ''America.''
The African-American just emphasizes that it's not white. If you just say American, I would think you mean a white person...
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by Nazi Flower Power » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:57 pm
by Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:58 pm
by Leningrad Union » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:59 pm
by Nazi Flower Power » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:59 pm
Great Zavi wrote:Siaos wrote:But generally whites know where in Europe their ancestors came from and either call themselves that IE Italian-American or just White American. Blacks generally don't know the exact tribe their ancestors came from since the coastal African tribes and Portuguese didn't really care when they were enslaving them. So they have to either call themselves African-American or Black American. Or both they can just call themselves American.
I only find people calling themselves Italian-American, for example, when they have ancestors thats recently come from Italy. But after 400 years?
by God Kefka » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:59 pm
by Hladgos » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:01 pm
by Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:01 pm
by Siaos » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:02 pm
Zottistan wrote:Like voltage, the only practical way to measure freedom is relatively speaking.
Absolute freedom would be a terrible, terrible thing.
by The Serbian Empire » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:03 pm
by Leningrad Union » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:04 pm
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Leningrad Union wrote:Yes, ACCEPT THE TRUTH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxMGI5HaA4
by Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:05 pm
Leningrad Union wrote:
We all know that the joker had various problems throughout his life, such as racial misidentity
by Nazi Flower Power » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:05 pm
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