Facebook allows nonbinary gender identities

[Zaldakki]

What's wrong with "they"?

It's plural. I am not addressing one person with a plural word as long as I can use "he" or "she". I use whichever singular pronouns a person prefers (except if I must be respectful and use "they"). It really is impracticable for me to consistently use "they" for one person. Before someone brings up the word "you" which is plural also and frequently used in singular ways, it's used differently than "they", which is why it's a different word.

It's only a plural when used as a plural. In this case it's singular.

[Regnum Dominae]

The concept of transvestism is a blight upon western society. This leftist idea of multiple-gender personalities is nothing more than a confusion of the mind. No wonder the west is failing, we have those who can't even decide their own gender in power.

1) Being transgender isn't having "multiple gender personalities." It's having your biological sex not match your gender.
2) It's not a "leftist idea". I'm a conservative and I support transgender rights.
3) How is it a "blight upon western society"? Also, considering your use of the word "transvestism", it seems to me like you are trying to offend people.

[The Scientific States]

The concept of transvestism is a blight upon western society. This leftist idea of multiple-gender personalities is nothing more than a confusion of the mind. No wonder the west is failing, we have those who can't even decide their own gender in power.

1) Being transgender isn't having "multiple gender personalities." It's having your biological sex not match your gender.
2) It's not a "leftist idea". I'm a conservative and I support transgender rights.
3) How is it a "blight upon western society"? Also, considering your use of the word "transvestism", it seems to me like you are trying to offend people.

It's pretty apparent that the post is meant to offend.

[The Althing Confederacy]

OOC:Whats the point?
If one is homosexual/lesbian/bisexual; then their genetic gender should apply.
If they are transgendered then their adopted gender should apply.
PS I admit to often being grammatically confused by which pronouns I should use; so as a default I refer to the above.
Any other gender terms are at best superfluous, and at worst actively confrontational.

[Luveria]

It's plural. I am not addressing one person with a plural word as long as I can use "he" or "she". I use whichever singular pronouns a person prefers (except if I must be respectful and use "they"). It really is impracticable for me to consistently use "they" for one person. Before someone brings up the word "you" which is plural also and frequently used in singular ways, it's used differently than "they", which is why it's a different word.

It's only a plural when used as a plural. In this case it's singular.

No, it's a singular or plural word being used one way or the other. It could be either.

"He" and "she" I cannot use as plural, because they aren't.

Until a singular gender neutral word is found, I am not okay with "they".

[Srboslavija]

I'm a conservative and I support transgender rights.

You do know people can access your post history, can see your sig, etc, lol.

[Geilinor]

It's only a plural when used as a plural. In this case it's singular.

No, it's a singular or plural word being used one way or the other. It could be either.

"He" and "she" I cannot use as plural, because they aren't.

Until a singular gender neutral word is found, I am not okay with "they".

"They" can be singular in usage.

[Luveria]

1) Being transgender isn't having "multiple gender personalities." It's having your biological sex not match your gender.
2) It's not a "leftist idea". I'm a conservative and I support transgender rights.
3) How is it a "blight upon western society"? Also, considering your use of the word "transvestism", it seems to me like you are trying to offend people.

It's pretty apparent that the post is meant to offend.

It didn't work well. I guess I can't really feel offended by anyone who believes the West is failing.

[Luveria]

No, it's a singular or plural word being used one way or the other. It could be either.

"He" and "she" I cannot use as plural, because they aren't.

Until a singular gender neutral word is found, I am not okay with "they".

"They" can be singular in usage.

Yeah, can be. It can also be plural.

As I've said, until there is a singular word, I'm not using one that is plural or singular. If you really wish for a gender neutral pronoun set to be viable, "they" doesn't cut it.

[Grenartia]

What's wrong with "they"?

It's plural. I am not addressing one person with a plural word as long as I can use "he" or "she". I use whichever singular pronouns a person prefers (except if I must be respectful and use "they"). It really is impracticable for me to consistently use "they" for one person. Before someone brings up the word "you" which is plural also and frequently used in singular ways, it's used differently than "they", which is why it's a different word.

No, they're both used in similar ways. "You" is both singular and plural, and is gender neutral. "They" was originally also singular and plural, and today also sees legitimate usage in a singular context, and is (and has always been) gender neutral.

[Luveria]

I'm a conservative and I support transgender rights.

You do know people can access your post history, can see your sig, etc, lol.

You do know that someone's NSG Senate RPs may not be indicative of their personal politics? You realize there are gay conservatives? Etc etc LOLOL LOLOLOL.

Not so funny when it's put that way is it?

[Regnum Dominae]

I'm a conservative and I support transgender rights.

You do know people can access your post history, can see your sig, etc, lol.

What does that have to do with my post?

[Luveria]

It's plural. I am not addressing one person with a plural word as long as I can use "he" or "she". I use whichever singular pronouns a person prefers (except if I must be respectful and use "they"). It really is impracticable for me to consistently use "they" for one person. Before someone brings up the word "you" which is plural also and frequently used in singular ways, it's used differently than "they", which is why it's a different word.

No, they're both used in similar ways. "You" is both singular and plural, and is gender neutral. "They" was originally also singular and plural, and today also sees legitimate usage in a singular context, and is (and has always been) gender neutral.

I'd like a singular word that can only be singular to replace "he" or "she". It's obstructive to gender neutrality to stop at accepting "they" as okay, when most of us want an exclusively singular word that can be used in place of "he" or "she".

[San]

OOC:Whats the point?
If one is homosexual/lesbian/bisexual; then their sex should apply.
If they are transgendered then their gender should apply.

fixed your terms

[Grenartia]

No, they're both used in similar ways. "You" is both singular and plural, and is gender neutral. "They" was originally also singular and plural, and today also sees legitimate usage in a singular context, and is (and has always been) gender neutral.

I'd like a singular word that can only be singular to replace "he" or "she". It's obstructive to gender neutrality to stop at accepting "they" as okay, when most of us want an exclusively singular word that can be used in place of "he" or "she".

I fail to see how.

[Luveria]

OOC:Whats the point?
If one is homosexual/lesbian/bisexual; then their genetic gender should apply.

How can gender ever be genetic?

Gender is a social construct. It's a concept people identify with and conform to. It's not possible for a newborn human to do.

If they are transgendered then their adopted gender should apply.

Except it doesn't.

For some trans females, maybe they prefer "trans female" instead of "female".

PS I admit to often being grammatically confused by which pronouns I should use; so as a default I refer to the above.
Any other gender terms are at best superfluous, and at worst actively confrontational.

Use whichever pronouns a person prefers. That's not confusing at all.

[Luveria]

I'd like a singular word that can only be singular to replace "he" or "she". It's obstructive to gender neutrality to stop at accepting "they" as okay, when most of us want an exclusively singular word that can be used in place of "he" or "she".

I fail to see how.

Then you're on your own.

[Grenartia]

1. OOC:Whats the point?
2. If one is homosexual/lesbian/bisexual; then their genetic gender should apply.
If they are transgendered then their adopted gender should apply.
3. PS I admit to often being grammatically confused by which pronouns I should use; so as a default I refer to the above.
Any other gender terms are at best superfluous, and at worst actively confrontational.

1. This is an OOC forum, you don't need the "OOC" tag. And the point is that those of us outside the gender binary, until now, had no option to express our gender on FB.

2. There's no such thing as "genetic gender". You're probably referring to sex, which has nothing to do with gender. Which begs the question as to why sex should matter in any interaction outside of medical and romantic/sexual contexts.

3. Why not go by whichever the person in question prefers?

[Srboslavija]

You do know people can access your post history, can see your sig, etc, lol.

What does that have to do with my post?

Lying to win an argument seems a bit facetious. It was even unnecessary because the other dude's argument was pretty weak.

[The Scientific States]

I'm a conservative and I support transgender rights.

You do know people can access your post history, can see your sig, etc, lol.

And...?

[Luveria]

What does that have to do with my post?

Lying to win an argument seems a bit facetious. It was even unnecessary because the other dude's argument was pretty weak.

Point out how Regnum lied.

[Srboslavija]

I'd rather address this with Regnum directly than his team of defense attorneys.

[The Scientific States]

I'd rather address this with Regnum directly than his team of defense attorneys.

I don't understand what Regnum did.

[Regnum Dominae]

I'd rather address this with Regnum directly than his team of defense attorneys.

lolwat

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I'm pretty solidly and consistently center-right on almost everything, it's just that I don't consider issues of equality and human rights to be left-right issues. I consider them to be issues of basic human dignity.

[Regnum Dominae]

I'd rather address this with Regnum directly than his team of defense attorneys.

I don't understand what Regnum did.

Apparently I'm a "liar" for calling myself a conservative.

Because apparently you can't call yourself "conservative" nowadays unless you're a tea party, socially authoritarian gop radical