Facebook allows nonbinary gender identities

[Neutraligon]

Can we quit it with the threadjack here. This thread is not supposed to be about who is more persecuted, who is banned more, who the mods hate more, or and other variant of those themes.

[Libertarian California]

Two-Spirits are indigenous North Americans who fulfill one of many mixed gender roles in First Nations and Native American tribes.

Oh you've got to be kidding!

[Neutraligon]

Had a squizz at ye olde' HuffPost user comments, apparently the new additions are not good enough.

One day Facebook will have a continuous linear mapping from the uncountable set of genders to an n-dimensional vector of gender identity. What a time to be a mathematics student!

Considering how hard it is to draw a 4th dimension, I would not want to be the artist or the computer tech person who has to code it up.

[Neutraligon]

Two-Spirits are indigenous North Americans who fulfill one of many mixed gender roles in First Nations and Native American tribes.

Oh you've got to be kidding!

Nope

[Grenartia]

Two-Spirits are indigenous North Americans who fulfill one of many mixed gender roles in First Nations and Native American tribes.

Oh you've got to be kidding!

About?

[Great Empire of Gamilus]

Two-Spirits are indigenous North Americans who fulfill one of many mixed gender roles in First Nations and Native American tribes.

Oh you've got to be kidding!

.... well... I know how you feel.

[The Holy Therns]

Two-Spirits are indigenous North Americans who fulfill one of many mixed gender roles in First Nations and Native American tribes.

Oh you've got to be kidding!

"I didn't know it from before. Clearly it is completely made up."

[Libertarian California]

Had a squizz at ye olde' HuffPost user comments, apparently the new additions are not good enough.

Better but still kinda cissexist & binarist, insofar as it still has male and female as "default" genders and anything else is a deviation from that. And also cis/trans* status has been tagged onto gender rather than being put as a separate field (which is problematic because whether you're cis or trans* doesn't actually effect your gender or the way in which you are that gender, it's a socially constructed relationship between your gender and your assigned sex). And you still have to pick your gender from a list ANYWAY, it's just a bigger list (which is problematic because gender being defined by the individual, it's impossible to have an exhaustive list of all possible genders)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/13/facebook-gender_n_4782477.html

I'm gonna need to take a long shower.

[Srboslavija]

Only limited by your imaginations? That's cute.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

If the possibilities are endless, the only limit on them is a person's imagination. Duh, lol.

You chose to treat my comment as an "attack".

[Death Metal]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

If the possibilities are endless, the only limit on them is a person's imagination. Duh, lol.

You chose to treat my comment as an "attack".

Right, it wasn't attacking, that's why you added a phrase that is commonly noted for being patronizing.

Backpedal much?

[The Two Jerseys]

A lot of them seem pointless dublicates of other options. cis female, cisgender female...I mean really.

See my earlier poboy/sub sandwich comparison for why the duplication isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Gren, I totally agree with your argument, but for them to offer the choice of "trans" & "trans*", "cis" & "cisgender", and "(insert prefix here) man/woman" & "(insert prefix here) male/female" is a bit too much. At that point, it's basically like arguing over British spelling vs. American spelling.

[Blasveck]

I'm surprised a debate over what genders Facebook has or hasn't included has gone on this long.

I think 56 is an exhaustive enough list.

[Namelessinvisiblenothing]

I'm really happy they have pangender as an option

[Saiwania]

Including a third gender identity is okay, but 56 different ones? That is just silly.

[Luziyca]

Good for Facebook, and I support it. That said, I hope that some governments (*cough* Uganda *cough*) will not monitor Facebook there to identify those who don't fit in those two options and punish them.

[Geilinor]

Including a third gender identity is okay, but 56 different ones? That is just silly.

How does it effect you? It won't get in your way unless you press "custom", which seems to be how the feature will work. "Male" and "female" are at the top of the list too.

[Grenartia]

See my earlier poboy/sub sandwich comparison for why the duplication isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Gren, I totally agree with your argument, but for them to offer the choice of "trans" & "trans*", "cis" & "cisgender", and "(insert prefix here) man/woman" & "(insert prefix here) male/female" is a bit too much. At that point, it's basically like arguing over British spelling vs. American spelling.

True, but then they even have options for British or American English.

Including a third gender identity is okay, but 56 different ones? That is just silly.

Its actually less than 56. There's just multiple labels for some of the same things so that people who don't know what one label is will be more likely to be able to know what another label is.

Again, poboy/sub sandwich.

[Libertarian California]

Gren, I totally agree with your argument, but for them to offer the choice of "trans" & "trans*", "cis" & "cisgender", and "(insert prefix here) man/woman" & "(insert prefix here) male/female" is a bit too much. At that point, it's basically like arguing over British spelling vs. American spelling.

True, but then they even have options for British or American English.

Including a third gender identity is okay, but 56 different ones? That is just silly.

Its actually less than 56. There's just multiple labels for some of the same things so that people who don't know what one label is will be more likely to be able to know what another label is.

Again, poboy/sub sandwich.

I believe that poboys tend to be chicken or shrimp sandwiches, while subs can be anything.

[Phocidaea]

Fifty-six?

Shit, I gotta go on Facebook just to see what all of them are.

But seriously, fifty-six? Did they buy Tumblr from Yahoo or something?

EDIT: Ah, good. My biggest fear averted. No silly pronouns like "xe" or "shkler" or whatever's in vogue. Just "them".

[Grenartia]

True, but then they even have options for British or American English.



Its actually less than 56. There's just multiple labels for some of the same things so that people who don't know what one label is will be more likely to be able to know what another label is.

Again, poboy/sub sandwich.

I believe that poboys tend to be chicken or shrimp sandwiches, while subs can be anything.

Common misconception.

[Geilinor]

Fifty-six?

Shit, I gotta go on Facebook just to see what all of them are.

But seriously, fifty-six? Did they buy Tumblr from Yahoo or something?

Many of them mean the same thing but are just there in case people don't know what all of them mean or prefer to use another term.

[Bleckonia]

So wait? I read the list. I have some questions

1. Cis male and Cis Man? Are they not the same thing?
2. Two-Spirit is a gender? What? That's like...Religious are something....

Look the way I see it...There are Male's and Female's. Identify as whichever you want. I don't care but the genders are Male and Female.

I don't think you understand the difference between gender and sex.

Most anti-transgender people don't. Sex is down there.... (points downward) and gender is up here.... (points at his head). Sex simply refers to genitalia. Gender is much more complicated, involving firing neurons and complex chemical reactions.

[Monarch of the Realm]

Good for Facebook, and I support it. That said, I hope that some governments (*cough* Uganda *cough*) will not monitor Facebook there to identify those who don't fit in those two options and punish them.

Certainly a sad reality that this may happen.

[Olivaero]

Good the more the merrier. Maybe this will make people less incredulous about gender identities other than man/woman if they have regular contact with them on Facebook. Also of course it nets FB major cred.

[Geilinor]

Good the more the merrier. Maybe this will make people less incredulous about gender identities other than man/woman if they have regular contact with them on Facebook. Also of course it nets FB major cred.

Maybe they'll understand what the difference between gender and sex is if they see it on Facebook.