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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:11 am

Ermarian wrote:I just went on Facebook and selecting the custom option now does create a text field.


Then all that is left now is to address is the binary option of being interested in women, men, or both.
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Postby Snafturi » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:01 am

The thing with the custom fields is it that while it can always be used in an offensive manner, it's not like someone is going to be an English gentleman in their updates and then write Shit Von Poopwiggle in a custom field.

The option list is probably just to make data gathering more efficient. Or maybe I just need to grab my tinfoil hat and drink some unflouridated tea.
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Postby Rationallia » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:08 am

A lot of these are just different names for the same thing.

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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:11 am

Rationallia wrote:A lot of these are just different names for the same thing.


That's the point.

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Postby Orennana » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:28 am

I really don't know which of the options to pick... IMO, ignoring the differences between gender and biological sex for the time being, gender is a scale, ranging from exclusively one gender at 0% (I'm going to use female for this example) to exclusively the other at 100% (male for this example). Obviously there are a variety of different words for each point on the scale depending on circumstances (eg 0% could be cis female, trans female, cis woman etc), but I'm not sure there's a word for where I fit in (using the current example, I'm around 85%, which pretty much fits my biological status as a man, but I'm not exclusively male so I don't feel 100% comfortable identifying as cis) so which word do I choose? Or do I just leave it as Man?
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Postby New Catalonia » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:37 am

This is great news! When you think how influential Facebook is, this will really go some way toward LGBTQ equality.
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Postby Lithosano » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:46 am

Orennana wrote:I really don't know which of the options to pick... IMO, ignoring the differences between gender and biological sex for the time being, gender is a scale, ranging from exclusively one gender at 0% (I'm going to use female for this example) to exclusively the other at 100% (male for this example). Obviously there are a variety of different words for each point on the scale depending on circumstances (eg 0% could be cis female, trans female, cis woman etc), but I'm not sure there's a word for where I fit in (using the current example, I'm around 85%, which pretty much fits my biological status as a man, but I'm not exclusively male so I don't feel 100% comfortable identifying as cis) so which word do I choose? Or do I just leave it as Man?


You know, I used to think of gender as a binary scale as well, but I am increasingly failing to see how that is true. It seems paradoxically essentialist, especially given that gender is almost entirely socially created. I mean, "masculine" and "feminine" change and some cultures recognize as many as five genders. Gender is probably a multi-axis scale, if anything,
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:55 am

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Orennana wrote:I really don't know which of the options to pick... IMO, ignoring the differences between gender and biological sex for the time being, gender is a scale, ranging from exclusively one gender at 0% (I'm going to use female for this example) to exclusively the other at 100% (male for this example). Obviously there are a variety of different words for each point on the scale depending on circumstances (eg 0% could be cis female, trans female, cis woman etc), but I'm not sure there's a word for where I fit in (using the current example, I'm around 85%, which pretty much fits my biological status as a man, but I'm not exclusively male so I don't feel 100% comfortable identifying as cis) so which word do I choose? Or do I just leave it as Man?


You know, I used to think of gender as a binary scale as well, but I am increasingly failing to see how that is true. It seems paradoxically essentialist, especially given that gender is almost entirely socially created. I mean, "masculine" and "feminine" change and some cultures recognize as many as five genders. Gender is probably a multi-axis scale, if anything,


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Postby Wytenigistan » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:05 am

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Wytenigistan wrote:A lot of them seem pointless dublicates of other options. cis female, cisgender female...I mean really.


See my earlier poboy/sub sandwich comparison for why the duplication isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Some of them are just abbreviations of other ones or shorthand version so it doesn't appear to be parallel to your example. Also Im not digging through this thread, please post a link to your post.
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Postby Ayreonia » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:08 am

Way to go, Facebook! I swear, I dislike you less and less every day.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:08 am

Czechanada wrote:The concept of gender is an anachronism.

This is just a simple step towards its abolition.


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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:37 am

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:16 am

Why only in the US?
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:21 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:lolwat

I'll be billing you at $300/hr.
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E-attorneys don't make nearly that much. I charged Regnum $3 for this defence. It's not much but... it pays the bills...

Ifreann wrote:Why only in the US?


Is it only in the US?

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:24 am

Luveria wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I'll be billing you at $300/hr.
*nods*


E-attorneys don't make nearly that much. I charged Regnum $3 for this defence. It's not much but... it pays the bills...

I clearly have more bills than you.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:25 am

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E-attorneys don't make nearly that much. I charged Regnum $3 for this defence. It's not much but... it pays the bills...

I clearly have more bills than you.


It's not my fault you don't know how to live a frugal lifestyle.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:25 am

Luveria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why only in the US?


Is it only in the US?

So I've heard, and more than a few people in this thread have mentioned it not being available to them.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:26 am

Luveria wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I clearly have more bills than you.


It's not my fault you don't know how to live a frugal lifestyle.

Yes, it is.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:26 am

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Luveria wrote:
Is it only in the US?

So I've heard, and more than a few people in this thread have mentioned it not being available to them.


I interpret that as an indication Facebook is using the US as a testing grounds for the new changes they are rolling out. My guess is that if it goes smoothly in the US, it will be extended.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:27 am

Luveria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So I've heard, and more than a few people in this thread have mentioned it not being available to them.


I interpret that as an indication Facebook is using the US as a testing grounds for the new changes they are rolling out. My guess is that if it goes smoothly in the US, it will be extended.

This pro-America bias will not stand. We must declare war on Facebook.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:28 am

Ifreann wrote:
Luveria wrote:
I interpret that as an indication Facebook is using the US as a testing grounds for the new changes they are rolling out. My guess is that if it goes smoothly in the US, it will be extended.

This pro-America bias will not stand. We must declare war on Facebook.


I did long ago when I vowed to never make a Facebook account.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:29 am

Luveria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This pro-America bias will not stand. We must declare war on Facebook.


I did long ago when I vowed to never make a Facebook account.

You'll get the Purple Heart for this kind of heroism. Or some other colour, if you'd like.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:29 am

Luveria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:This pro-America bias will not stand. We must declare war on Facebook.


I did long ago when I vowed to never make a Facebook account.

I had one for a while. It was a full-time job keeping up with people I didn't like in high school and wasn't really interested in now, not to mention their friends and children and people who might have met them once.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:36 am

Ifreann wrote:
Luveria wrote:
I did long ago when I vowed to never make a Facebook account.

You'll get the Purple Heart for this kind of heroism. Or some other colour, if you'd like.


The Black Heart. It has a nice sound to it.

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I did long ago when I vowed to never make a Facebook account.

I had one for a while. It was a full-time job keeping up with people I didn't like in high school and wasn't really interested in now, not to mention their friends and children and people who might have met them once.


One of my reasons for ceasing that sort of social networking was that I found it to be detrimental, along with having to chat with people I didn't like or want to see.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:37 am

Luveria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You'll get the Purple Heart for this kind of heroism. Or some other colour, if you'd like.


The Black Heart. It has a nice sound to it.

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