Facebook allows nonbinary gender identities

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Good on FB. At least on this.

[Luveria]

The entire concept of multiple-gender people is entirely antithetical to the last 2000 years of European, Christian heritage. I'd rather have Islam to be the main religion of Europe than Atheism.

Then you would have trans people receiving free treatment, like in Iran.

[Othelos]

Atheism isn't a religion.

Furthermore, Islam can be remarkably accepting towards transsexual people.

Really? I didn't know that.

[Neutraligon]

Furthermore, Islam can be remarkably accepting towards transsexual people.

Really? I didn't know that.

Actually from what I have heard, some homosexual people are forced to transition.

[Geilinor]

The entire concept of multiple-gender people is entirely antithetical to the last 2000 years of European, Christian heritage. I'd rather have Islam to be the main religion of Europe than Atheism.

Then you would have trans people receiving free treatment, like in Iran.

What?

[Othelos]

Really? I didn't know that.

Actually from what I have heard, some homosexual people are forced to transition.

That's disturbing.

[Liriena]

Furthermore, Islam can be remarkably accepting towards transsexual people.

Really? I didn't know that.

IIRC, the Quran recognizes that there are people who were born gender dysphoric, and doesn't condemn them for it. It only explicitly condemns cisgender men crossdressing.

Then you would have trans people receiving free treatment, like in Iran.

What?

Iran is one of the world's leading nations on number of SRS performed each year.

Really? I didn't know that.

Actually from what I have heard, some homosexual people are forced to transition.

Apparently, some are either forced, or choose to undergo transition to avoid legal or social persecution.

[Luveria]

Then you would have trans people receiving free treatment, like in Iran.

What?

It's not voluntary. Many of the "trans females" are actually gay men who want to avoid execution for homosexuality. If they lie and say they are actually a tran female, then they are sent to a clinic for treatment.

What I dislike about Iran's system is that it's not voluntary, it pressures many men into it due to the homosexuality laws, and SRS is compulsory even for women who don't want their penis made into a vagina. A significant portion of trans women do not want SRS even if it's free.

Everything about the Iranian system is terrible, unless an Iranian trans female wanted SRS anyway and they have a preference for men and not women which would be illegal lesbianism. As long as they conform to that expectation, it works out great for them.

[Orveleca]

Couldn't they just have "Man" "Woman" and "Insert Here" with a word box? That would lower the options, and make things simpler.

Just my two bits.

[Geilinor]

Actually from what I have heard, some homosexual people are forced to transition.

That's disturbing.

I do wonder how many transition to avoid persecution in Iran. When the penalty for not doing so could be death, I can imagine why homosexual people would.

[Luveria]

Couldn't they just have "Man" "Woman" and "Insert Here" with a word box? That would lower the options, and make things simpler.

Just my two bits.

No, it does not. A simple "other" doesn't tell me anything.

[Blasveck]

What?

It's not voluntary. Many of the "trans females" are actually gay men who want to avoid execution for homosexuality. If they lie and say they are actually a tran female, then they are sent to a clinic for treatment.

What I dislike about Iran's system is that it's not voluntary, it pressures many men into it due to the homosexuality laws, and SRS is compulsory even for women who don't want their penis made into a vagina. A significant portion of trans women do not want SRS even if it's free.

Everything about the Iranian system is terrible, unless an Iranian trans female wanted SRS anyway and they have a preference for men and not women which would be illegal lesbianism. As long as they conform to that expectation, it works out great for them.

That's quite an odd system.

I'm guessing one has to be an Iranian citizen to qualify for such a thing.

[San]

Couldn't they just have "Man" "Woman" and "Insert Here" with a word box? That would lower the options, and make things simpler.

Just my two bits.

potential for abuse, really.

they'd have to blacklist an almost infinite amount of words for it to be anywhere near practical.

[Luveria]

That's disturbing.

I do wonder how many transition to avoid persecution in Iran. When the penalty for not doing so could be death, I can imagine why homosexual people would.

Very many, and there's no way to know the statistics of it.

Some gay men try to leave Iran instead to avoid it, but the less fortunate ones have no choice but to become a woman to avoid death.

[Zaldakki]

Singular they ftw!

[Othelos]

Really? I didn't know that.

IIRC, the Quran recognizes that there are people who were born gender dysphoric, and doesn't condemn them for it. It only explicitly condemns cisgender men crossdressing.

It's crazy how much a single book can effect society and so many lives.

[Luveria]

Singular they ftw!

I'd like a word for that so there would only be neutral gender pronouns for everyone.

Until someone comes up with a singular gender neutral word to replace "he" or "she" that isn't "they", I have no choice but to support the extension of genders.

[Othelos]

That's disturbing.

I do wonder how many transition to avoid persecution in Iran. When the penalty for not doing so could be death, I can imagine why homosexual people would.

That's a total invasion of bodily sovereignty. I can't believe that people would be so damn ignorant as to basically force other people make extreme physical changes, rather than just accept who they are.

[Orveleca]

Singular they ftw!

I'd like a word for that so there would only be neutral gender pronouns for everyone.

Until someone comes up with a singular gender neutral word to replace "he" or "she" that isn't "they", I have no choice but to support the extension of genders.

What's wrong with "they"?

[Liriena]

IIRC, the Quran recognizes that there are people who were born gender dysphoric, and doesn't condemn them for it. It only explicitly condemns cisgender men crossdressing.

It's crazy how much a single book can effect society and so many lives.

Well, at least it acknowledges transsexual women and gender dysphoria in a somewhat reasonable fashion.

No such thing in the Bible, unless you count those verses on eunuchs.

[Arkinesia]

It's crazy how much a single book can effect society and so many lives.

Well, at least it acknowledges transsexual women and gender dysphoria in a somewhat reasonable fashion.

No such thing in the Bible, unless you count those verses on eunuchs.

Doesn't do much good when a Muslim woman's life is only worth half as much as a Muslim man's.

[Grenartia]

1. The concept of transvestism is 2. a blight upon western society. 3. This leftist idea of 4. multiple-gender personalities is 5. nothing more than a confusion of the mind. 6. No wonder the west is failing, 7. we have those who can't even decide their own gender in power.

1. "Transvestism" is an outdated term for crossdressing. Not being transgender. Yes, there is a difference.

2. Not really.

3. Has nothing to do with left vs right.

4. That's not what this is.

5. No, its not.

6. No, its not.

7. Transgender is not "not being able to figure out your gender" that's questioning. Also, we're not talking about people in power, we're talking about an option on Facebook.

[The Scientific States]

The concept of transvestism is a blight upon western society. This leftist idea of multiple-gender personalities is nothing more than a confusion of the mind. No wonder the west is failing, we have those who can't even decide their own gender in power.

The west is failing?

Mhm, sure it is.

[Luveria]

I'd like a word for that so there would only be neutral gender pronouns for everyone.

Until someone comes up with a singular gender neutral word to replace "he" or "she" that isn't "they", I have no choice but to support the extension of genders.

What's wrong with "they"?

It's plural. I am not addressing one person with a plural word as long as I can use "he" or "she". I use whichever singular pronouns a person prefers (except if I must be respectful and use "they"). It really is impracticable for me to consistently use "they" for one person. Before someone brings up the word "you" which is plural also and frequently used in singular ways, it's used differently than "they", which is why it's a different word.

[Liriena]

Well, at least it acknowledges transsexual women and gender dysphoria in a somewhat reasonable fashion.

No such thing in the Bible, unless you count those verses on eunuchs.

Doesn't do much good when a Muslim woman's life is only worth half as much as a Muslim man's.

Yeah... :/