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Postby Tekania » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:26 pm

I'm surprised he has been fined into bankruptcy.
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Postby Gallup » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:26 pm

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Gallup wrote:Look, I am man enough to know when I am wrong. It is good to have doubts, however. Still, you seem to be right. Now, let's get back to the topic.

If he's actively stopping gays from entering than the free market will decide that they don't want to go their, and he will go out of business.


If that were true, why didn't it happen 42 years ago?


Also, the recently added Yelp! pictures for this place are hilarious.

That was stupid.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:28 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Gallup wrote:Look, I am man enough to know when I am wrong. It is good to have doubts, however. Still, you seem to be right. Now, let's get back to the topic.

If he's actively stopping gays from entering than the free market will decide that they don't want to go their, and he will go out of business.


He's also actively stopping different races, disabled people etc.

People will still go there, as the free market isn't infallible.

It's not that the free market isn't working so much as it is a reflection of the fucked up community there.

The free market isn't some autorun ethics enforcer, it's just an emergent vision of what people value based on the information they know.

Since he's a public discriminatory bigot, and people are cool with that, it just shows that he adequately serves the needs of the community and that his (apparent) downsides aren't enough to outweigh that.

Which mean his patrons are assholes as much as he is.
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Postby Gallup » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:30 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
He's also actively stopping different races, disabled people etc.

People will still go there, as the free market isn't infallible.

It's not that the free market isn't working so much as it is a reflection of the fucked up community there.

The free market isn't some autorun ethics enforcer, it's just an emergent vision of what people value based on the information they know.

Since he's a public discriminatory bigot, and people are cool with that, it just shows that he adequately serves the needs of the community and that his (apparent) downsides aren't enough to outweigh that.

Which mean his patrons are assholes as much as he is.

Or they don't know.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:32 pm

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Gallup wrote:I had trust issues, as all the sources for a while were far-left.

huffpost isn't so much far left as it is sensationalist celebrity news pandering to every demographic they can think of for ad revenue


I'll agree with this. IF someone posts a huffpo article here, I typically read through it, then start scouring news sites for additional sources before formulating my opinion, as more often than not the huffpo author presents the account edited to their personal bias.... even if I agree with the authors position I look for additional sources.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:32 pm

Gallup wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:It's not that the free market isn't working so much as it is a reflection of the fucked up community there.

The free market isn't some autorun ethics enforcer, it's just an emergent vision of what people value based on the information they know.

Since he's a public discriminatory bigot, and people are cool with that, it just shows that he adequately serves the needs of the community and that his (apparent) downsides aren't enough to outweigh that.

Which mean his patrons are assholes as much as he is.

Or they don't know.

Between the official t-shirt, and his brazen actions for 30-40 years, that seems hella unlikely.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:34 pm

Totally. I'm in total agreement with Rand Paul. You can call it public accommodation, and it is, but it's a private business. Are we going to say to the black students' association they have to take white people, or the gay softball association they have to take straight people? We should have freedom of association in America.

These people on Fox News don't understand the difference between businesses which are open to the public and private clubs and other exclusive organizations. The Civil Rights Act spells out the difference.
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Postby Avenio » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:35 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Gallup wrote:Or they don't know.

Between the official t-shirt, and his brazen actions for 30-40 years, that seems hella unlikely.


Yeah, I was about to say. His T-shirts say "Nigger Free Zone" and "Faggot Free Zone" on them. That's pretty hard to miss.

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:36 pm

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Between the official t-shirt, and his brazen actions for 30-40 years, that seems hella unlikely.


Yeah, I was about to say. His T-shirts say "Nigger Free Zone" and "Faggot Free Zone" on them. That's pretty hard to miss.

I don't understand how such a business can survive, but I can imagine it happening.
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Postby Cosmopoles » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:37 pm

Restaurant owner sounds like a total shit but Matt Gard doesn't sound much better either. Who knowingly visits a restaurant that discriminates against people for years but only complains when they themselves finally get targeted? People like Matt Gard enable bigots like the owner.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:42 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Avenio wrote:
Yeah, I was about to say. His T-shirts say "Nigger Free Zone" and "Faggot Free Zone" on them. That's pretty hard to miss.

I don't understand how such a business can survive, but I can imagine it happening.

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby Geilinor » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:42 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:Restaurant owner sounds like a total shit but Matt Gard doesn't sound much better either. Who knowingly visits a restaurant that discriminates against people for years but only complains when they themselves finally get targeted? People like Matt Gard enable bigots like the owner.

If he saw one of the shirts, witnessed another customer being discriminated against, or heard about the owner, that could be a valid criticism.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:43 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:Restaurant owner sounds like a total shit but Matt Gard doesn't sound much better either. Who knowingly visits a restaurant that discriminates against people for years but only complains when they themselves finally get targeted? People like Matt Gard enable bigots like the owner.

He just wanted to be free of those damn fags for once in his life and now it's his fault?
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:46 pm

Looks like Oklahoma is still stuck in 1950
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Postby Cosmopoles » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:47 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:He just wanted to be free of those damn fags for once in his life and now it's his fault?


I wonder about the inability of some people to empathise with discrimination.

"Check out these t-shirts: Nigger Free Zone!"
Haha, good one!
"No faggots allowed!"
You tell 'em, Gary!
"Get out of my restaurant, you freak."
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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:48 pm

Bezombia wrote:Yet this guy Gary has been running this restaurant with an Official T-Shirt that says "Nigger Free Zone".


I kind of want one of those, to be honest.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:49 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Bezombia wrote:Yet this guy Gary has been running this restaurant with an Official T-Shirt that says "Nigger Free Zone".


I kind of want one of those, to be honest.

I would to if I were the king of black hipsters.
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Postby Baader-Meinhof Gruppe » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:49 pm

Seems like he gets plenty of bad reviews already, wouldn't be surprised if he was a massive welfare queen.

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Postby ShadowDragons » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:49 pm

This guy sounds like the soup nazi. You can't tell people how to run they're business though. Is it a crime to be racist, no and it shouldn't because it's a state of mind. I wouldn't ever do such a thing, but don't tell him what to do.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:49 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Bezombia wrote:Yet this guy Gary has been running this restaurant with an Official T-Shirt that says "Nigger Free Zone".


I kind of want one of those, to be honest.

Does he have any that makes fun of Aspergers?

If so I'm buying thirty.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:49 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I don't understand how such a business can survive, but I can imagine it happening.

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Indeed.

*Points to signature*

Which is why we can't leave this in the hands of the free market. In towns where a majority are bigots and/or apathetic, this sort of nonsense tends to remain unaddressed.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:51 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Estado Paulista wrote:
I kind of want one of those, to be honest.

Does he have any that makes fun of Aspergers?

If so I'm buying thirty.

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:52 pm

ShadowDragons wrote:This guy sounds like the soup nazi. You can't tell people how to run they're business though. Is it a crime to be racist, no and it shouldn't because it's a state of mind. I wouldn't ever do such a thing, but don't tell him what to do.


Actually, in America, when it comes to businesses that are considered to be public accommodations, you absolutely can tell someone how to run their business in terms of providing equal service to all regardless of certain inherent characteristics, political beliefs, and religious beliefs. And you can put them out of business if they refuse.

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:53 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Does he have any that makes fun of Aspergers?

If so I'm buying thirty.

"Assburgers in Paradise"

XL for 29.99

As a aspergers joke and a fat one?

Well, I'm not XL but I would wear it, I have seen better though :|
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:56 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:"Assburgers in Paradise"

XL for 29.99

As a aspergers joke and a fat one?

Well, I'm not XL but I would wear it, I have seen better though :|

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