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Postby Philosophii » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:05 pm

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Postby Pilotto » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:09 pm

So let me get this straight. You've seen the insane state propaganda that comes out of North Korea. You've seen the impoverished masses living in squalor. You've seen the concentration camps. You've seen the hypocritical opulence that the Korean dictator lives in. You've seen everything that we all have seen, and probably even more (you claim to have even studied Kimillsungism, whatever the hell that is), and you think to yourself, "That sounds like a nice place. That's the kind of country I would want to live in."
Seriously, where are you from? Where did you grow up that was so horrible that North Korea sounds like a good alternative? Only on nationstates.

On a less serious note take a look at this and this.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:16 pm

The Corparation wrote:Good luck to you, however I hope you realize that the N . Korea you see will only be.the one that they want you to see. Everything negative they do is hidden from the view of carefully chaperoned foreigners such as you will be.


Some foreigners manage to see more than the Koreans intend for them to see, but yeah, they don't let you explore freely.

@OP: You'd be better off just staying in Beijing. There is some really awesome stuff in Beijing.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:18 pm

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They've mentioned it in the past.

I wonder if they're going to turn out like Oswald...


I wouldn't recommend that. Granted, I probably wouldn't mind moving to Cuba (however, I don't consider the two comparable, due to the differences in ideology), but would prefer to have socialism expand past it than to simply hold it up as a beacon.


I must say, if I had to live in a former Soviet-supported state, I'd definitely choose Cuba. Least oppressive.

Torsiedelle wrote:Well, I'm not exactly a big fan of North Korea (Grandpa fought them in the '50s), but good luck. I've seen one or two videos of the place from a tourist, ad it looks interesting, to say the least.

Isn't there that one big hotel, looked really awesome, but it was never finished? I wouldn't mind seeing that, actually.


Of all the reasons to not like NK, you chose "because my granddaddy fought in the Korean war", and not things like their human rights record, or their nuclear program, or anything else. I mean, my granddad fought them, too, but that's certainly not on the list for why I don't like DPRK.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:21 pm

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The Corparation wrote:Good luck to you, however I hope you realize that the N . Korea you see will only be.the one that they want you to see. Everything negative they do is hidden from the view of carefully chaperoned foreigners such as you will be.


1) Some foreigners manage to see more than the Koreans intend for them to see, but yeah, they don't let you explore freely.

@OP: You'd be better off just staying in Beijing. There is some really awesome stuff in Beijing.

With regard to that, the person who used to be in my region who went was (on the last day of her stay there) vehemently asked to go to another, more modern hotel; she declined. When she returned to the hotel, she tried to take a shower, to find that the hot water was no longer on; when she inquired with the front desk, she was told that the hot water is turned off there for that part of the week (no further explanation was given, as far as I know, but I assume it is due to electricity/heating shortages). I assume the reason they asked her to go to another hotel was so that she wouldn't find out about the lack of hot water.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:24 pm

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1. If they're unwilling to change, they shouldn't be trying to rely on tourism.

2. And what about the American vet who fought in Korea, and was detained? Considering that pretty much the entire world less the Soviet Union and its puppet states contributed to the UN invasion of NK, I doubt many people (especially those old enough to have been veterans during the Korean War) would want to go there, with the risk of being brought up on bullshit charges.


1. I'm just going to leave this here: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/02/trave ... -protocol/

North Korea is safe.

2. He was incredibly stupid. If you know anything about North Korea, it's that they intensely demonise the Americans, especially during the Korean War. Seriously, this reaction was to be expected, and the man in question should have either stayed at home, or shut his trap.


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Postby Vekalse » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:26 pm

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Postby Ralkovia » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:29 pm

I'm so glad your visiting the second happiest country on Earth.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:32 pm

Grenartia wrote:
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1. I'm just going to leave this here: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/02/trave ... -protocol/

North Korea is safe.

2. He was incredibly stupid. If you know anything about North Korea, it's that they intensely demonise the Americans, especially during the Korean War. Seriously, this reaction was to be expected, and the man in question should have either stayed at home, or shut his trap.


Yeahno, I'm not going to pay attention to anything else you say after you victim blamed him.


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Postby God Kefka » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:42 pm

I would never visit North Korea. The place is too dangerous, corrupt and backward...
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:54 pm

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Postby Seangoli » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:00 pm

God Kefka wrote:I would never visit North Korea. The place is too dangerous, corrupt and backward...


I wouldn't say dangerous for tourists, particularly Western tourists. From what I understand, they are *very* interested in making NK look as amazing as possible to outsiders, and do everything they can to ensure that this happens. If you step out of line, you just get shipped out post-haste.

It's a PR thing, really. They know full well what would happen if they took a tourist captive or harmed them in any way. Best just to get rid of them if they cause problem.

Not saying anything good about the country, but this is what my undertanding of the situation for tourists is.

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Postby God Kefka » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:36 pm

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God Kefka wrote:I would never visit North Korea. The place is too dangerous, corrupt and backward...


I wouldn't say dangerous for tourists, particularly Western tourists. From what I understand, they are *very* interested in making NK look as amazing as possible to outsiders, and do everything they can to ensure that this happens. If you step out of line, you just get shipped out post-haste.

It's a PR thing, really. They know full well what would happen if they took a tourist captive or harmed them in any way. Best just to get rid of them if they cause problem.

Not saying anything good about the country, but this is what my undertanding of the situation for tourists is.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:44 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:Could you try a hamburger while you're there. People say it tastes like something's off, but North Korea says it is from the finest beef.


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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:47 pm

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Postby Meowfoundland » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:03 pm

I'd love to go to North Korea. Not because I agree with the ideology, but because it's so very different from the world around it. It's my last chance to see a proper Soviet Bloc-ish nation.
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Postby Conscentia » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:12 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:Could you try a hamburger while you're there. People say it tastes like something's off, but North Korea says it is from the finest beef.

It's called "human".

I think the reference is actually to the use of dog meat in Korean cuisine.

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Postby The Totally Not an Evil Communist Regime » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:47 pm

The glorious Democratic People's Republic of Korea is best and most advanced country. No other country can beat North Korea. North Korea leads all others in fields of magnificence, deep joy, and successfulness. Glorious nation of North Korea is not lead by heavily armed Stalinist meth addicts. This is pitiful lie by evil oppressed western capitalist dogs. North Korea is the most successful nation in history. It's greatest achievement is the birth of benevolent leader Kim Jong-Un, from which all greatness has sprung. Glorious Kim has won 47 Nobel prizes, 6 Oscars, and holds world record for pizza eating competition.
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The Totally Not an Evil Communist Regime wrote:The glorious Democratic People's Republic of Korea is best and most advanced country. No other country can beat North Korea. North Korea leads all others in fields of magnificence, deep joy, and successfulness. Glorious nation of North Korea is not lead by heavily armed Stalinist meth addicts. This is pitiful lie by evil oppressed western capitalist dogs. North Korea is the most successful nation in history. It's greatest achievement is the birth of benevolent leader Kim Jong-Un, from which all greatness has sprung. Glorious Kim has won 47 Nobel prizes, 6 Oscars, and holds world record for pizza eating competition.

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Postby The Totally Not an Evil Communist Regime » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:29 pm

Othelos wrote:Satire is a satire.

This is no satire. North Korea is most free nation! Mockery of glorious Korea will not be accepted!

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Postby Neo Arcad » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:06 pm

There's only one way I'd like to see North Korea, and that's down the barrel of an L/44 120mm Rheinmetall smoothbore cannon.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:08 pm

I don't get what exactly would be fun about seeing North Korea, but if that's what you wanna do for a vacation...

Personally, I'd rather go to South Korea; more development, nightclubs, and more general enjoyability.

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Postby Romic » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:09 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I don't get what exactly would be fun about seeing North Korea, but if that's what you wanna do for a vacation...

Personally, I'd rather go to South Korea; more development, nightclubs, and more general enjoyability.

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Postby Herador » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:12 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I don't get what exactly would be fun about seeing North Korea, but if that's what you wanna do for a vacation...

Personally, I'd rather go to South Korea; more development, nightclubs, and more general enjoyability.

Apparently weed is super cheap, so I mean, that's one reason.
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Postby Tyriece » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:21 pm

That's a good thing? I kinda thought people are desperately trying to escape that place, why would you want to go there??
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