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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:39 pm

Armed union wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:If your opinion of your kid depends on who they want to shag then you're a terrible parent.

I don't have kids. I'm not even 18.

I was talking about people in general. You, me, a neighbor, doesn't matter.
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Armed union wrote:I don't have kids. I'm not even 18.


Also, nice job avoiding several posts.


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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:39 pm

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Armed union wrote:I don't have kids. I'm not even 18.

It makes me terrified that, one day, you'll be able to vote.

And then, one day, three years after that, you'll be able to drink.

And hell, you'll be able to drive in three years, because I'm making the educated guess you're thirteen.

If it helps, one day I'll be able to vote, three years after that I'll be able to drink, and I already can drive. We balance out, right?
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Postby Armed Union » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:40 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Armed union wrote:I don't have kids. I'm not even 18.

It makes me terrified that, one day, you'll be able to vote.

And then, one day, three years after that, you'll be able to drink.

And hell, you'll be able to drive in three years, because I'm making the educated guess you're thirteen.

Close. I'm 14.

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Postby Annar » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:40 pm

Oh frabjous day! Calloo! Callay! -badly quoted Jabberwock that sums up my feelings on this topic.
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:41 pm

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Okay.

So why do you think gay marriage is wrong?

Because I'm a christian and I believe that marriage should be traditional as it used to be.


Do you know the history of marriage? Are you aware marriage (and marriage like unions) both predate Christianity?
Some reasons I have are, 1. Divorcee rates will go up.


Why will they go up? And are you aware of how high they are now? y

2. Same sex marriage will destroy the institution of marriage.


How?

3. It could POSSIBLY lead to marriage with animals and children.


Hooooow?

4. Think of this would you want your own child to be homosexual. (If you don't have one just think about what you would think if you did).


I don't want children full stop, but if I ever have any I wouldn't care if they are LGBTetc. My only concern would be people like you, determined to discriminate against them based on absurd arguments like "if I let your daughter marry a girl she's been with for five years, why, it could lead to people marrying children and animals".

Which means not only do I want to improve the world for existing LGBTetc, I want to improve the world for future LGBTetc as well.

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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:41 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Thafoo wrote:It makes me terrified that, one day, you'll be able to vote.

And then, one day, three years after that, you'll be able to drink.

And hell, you'll be able to drive in three years, because I'm making the educated guess you're thirteen.

If it helps, one day I'll be able to vote, three years after that I'll be able to drink, and I already can drive. We balance out, right?

You aren't the sort of person who would crash his car into the door of the voting booth, drunkenly step out, and register your vote in favour of the rotting corpse of Phyllis Schafly.

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Postby God Kefka » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:41 pm

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Armed union wrote:I don't have kids. I'm not even 18.


Why would you care if your kid was gay?



To be honest that wouldn't be cool...

Cause then I might lose face whenever his relationship status is mentioned at work or elsewhere...

''So I heard your son's married. How's the girl?''

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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:41 pm

Armed union wrote:
Thafoo wrote:It makes me terrified that, one day, you'll be able to vote.

And then, one day, three years after that, you'll be able to drink.

And hell, you'll be able to drive in three years, because I'm making the educated guess you're thirteen.

Close. I'm 14.

It would be a lie if I said I was the least bit surprised at that.

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Postby Armed Union » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:42 pm

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Armed union wrote:I don't have kids. I'm not even 18.


Why would you care if your kid was gay?

Also, nice job avoiding several posts.

I would care if he was gay because as said before, I don't agree with homosexuality.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:42 pm

Armed union, why should your religion be an excuse for LGBT people to not have rights?
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:43 pm

Armed union wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why would you care if your kid was gay?

Also, nice job avoiding several posts.

I would care if he was gay because as said before, I don't agree with homosexuality.

You stated in your original post, however, a generalizing statement that claimed that most, if not all, of us here would be visibly disturbed if our offspring was LGBT+. Which, of course, is not the case.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:43 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:If it helps, one day I'll be able to vote, three years after that I'll be able to drink, and I already can drive. We balance out, right?

You aren't the sort of person who would crash his car into the door of the voting booth, drunkenly step out, and register your vote in favour of the rotting corpse of Phyllis Schafly.

Not right now, but who knows what kind of person I'll be six years down the line?
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Postby Annar » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:43 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Armed union, why should your religion be an excuse for LGBT people to not have rights?


I agree. Some people don't agree with religion, but that doesn't mean they can stop people from going to church.
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:44 pm

Armed union wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:If your opinion of your kid depends on who they want to shag then you're a terrible parent.

I don't have kids. I'm not even 18.


Well you say even people who don't have them should think what it'd be like if they did.

So what would you do if your kids were homosexual?

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:44 pm

God Kefka wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why would you care if your kid was gay?



To be honest that wouldn't be cool...

Cause then I might lose face whenever his relationship status is mentioned at work or elsewhere...

''So I heard your son's married. How's the girl?''

''... well actually...''


I don't see why that'd matter.
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:44 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Thafoo wrote:You aren't the sort of person who would crash his car into the door of the voting booth, drunkenly step out, and register your vote in favour of the rotting corpse of Phyllis Schafly.

Not right now, but who knows what kind of person I'll be six years down the line?

Six years down the line, Armed Union will be one year away from doing exactly what I said.

The horror.

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Postby Katyuscha » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:44 pm

God Kefka wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why would you care if your kid was gay?



To be honest that wouldn't be cool...

Cause then I might lose face whenever his relationship status is mentioned at work or elsewhere...

''So I heard your son's married. How's the girl?''

''... well actually...''

I don't see any problem in that.
Armed union wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why would you care if your kid was gay?

Also, nice job avoiding several posts.

I would care if he was gay because as said before, I don't agree with homosexuality.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:44 pm

Armed union wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why would you care if your kid was gay?

Also, nice job avoiding several posts.

I would care if he was gay because as said before, I don't agree with homosexuality.


You literally just said, "would you want your kid to be gay?!"
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:44 pm

Thafoo wrote:4. I wouldn't mind mine being homosexual. My parents didn't mind when I came out. Their parents wouldn't mind if they were. Hell, I think my dad might be bi-curious.

Mine is, closeted but he is (I occasionally troll him shipping a doll made in his image in The Sims with other dudes, he goes apeshit but can't help but fail to hide he finds it both more awkward and fun than he should; I think he's only not open with me about it because he knows I don't quite like him enough, that I love to gossip, that even if I'm not such a son of a bitch I may use anything as a weapon when angry, that he tries to impress our family's more douchebag-ish members that treats us like shit and because I'm not his sole son and he believes in giving a "good example" for my younger bro, whatever bourgeois decadence he believes that means), it doesn't stop him from being slightly homophobic and quite effeminophobic and transphobic.
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:45 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Armed union wrote:I would care if he was gay because as said before, I don't agree with homosexuality.


You literally just said, "would you want your kid to be gay?!"

If my child was LGBT+, that would be a c-c-c-combo 3x of LGBT+ people in my direct family.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:45 pm

Armed union wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why would you care if your kid was gay?

Also, nice job avoiding several posts.

I would care if he was gay because as said before, I don't agree with homosexuality.


Why would your agreement or disagreement matter?
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Postby God Kefka » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:45 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
To be honest that wouldn't be cool...

Cause then I might lose face whenever his relationship status is mentioned at work or elsewhere...

''So I heard your son's married. How's the girl?''

''... well actually...''


I don't see why that'd matter.


it would probably cost me a promotion at some point...
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:46 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Armed union, why should your religion be an excuse for LGBT people to not have rights?


You know hung out with some friends the other night ("bros"), one of which is bisexual and religious (Catholic). The thing is I don't know why God did one thing and said another. But if the NT is anything to go (minus some of Paul), God is about love and we have to trust and assume that if God is all powerful that he knew people would be gay and that he'd love them anyway as he loves all.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:46 pm

God Kefka wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I don't see why that'd matter.


it would probably cost me a promotion at some point...


Doubt it.
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