Scotland to legalize Gay Marriage

[Gaelic Celtia]

Been there, done that. The relationship with God is entirely psychological.

It's made up.

It's possible but I doubt it. It feels to real to me. I've felt God in my life. What explanation could be for that and don't tell me it's all in my fucking head.

It feels real to the religious gays too but apparently you can tell them they are wrong.

[Liriena]

That's still a form of discrimination. Plus, some Christian gay couples may desire to be wed in the eyes of God.

Impossible. I'm sorry but God does not condone it. I'm not the one making the rules, don't get mad at me.

Except you are making the rules, and you are imposing them of others by ignoring a certain thing called "religious liberty". You seem to have trouble understanding the following: You don't get to say what religion is more legitimate than the other in the eyes of the law.

[Alyakia]

If they are differentiating a term for which all the legal benefits are exactly the same, then that is by definition discrimination. It is probably the best example of how separate but equal does not exist.

That's like saying calling one place a town and calling the other a village is discrimination because the descriptive terms are different. If for all secular intents and purposes the new gay civil unions and traditional marriages are equal, then they are equal.

actually in most countries they are very different things with very different entitlements and meanings... so it would be more than descriptive...

That's still a form of discrimination. Plus, some Christian gay couples may desire to be wed in the eyes of God.

Impossible. I'm sorry but God does not condone it. I'm not the one making the rules, don't get mad at me.

god also isn't too big on people that judge other people, or people that presume to talk and judge on his behalf, especially if they are not actually properly educated in scripture and authorized to do so. now don't take this is me judging you but i mean i'm just sayin'.

[Phoenixfox]

Don't delude yourself...there not really such thing as marriage without God. That is why gay partners marrying is so offensive to me...it is literally shoving your sin and defiance in the face of God

Do you support banning atheists, Hindus, Buddhists etc. from getting married?

No because even though they do not believe in God, they might one day see the light. As long as it is a man and a woman who love each other God smiles upon the love regardless of current religious belief.

[Othelos]

Been there, done that. The relationship with God is entirely psychological.

It's made up.

It's possible but I doubt it. It feels to real to me. I've felt God in my life. What explanation could be for that and don't tell me it's all in my fucking head.

...It is.

I mean, it's not like God suddenly appears and you have a nice chat over tea.

[Regnum Dominae]

Do you support banning atheists, Hindus, Buddhists etc. from getting married?

No because even though they do not believe in God, they might one day see the light. As long as it is a man and a woman who love each other God smiles upon the love regardless of current religious belief.

Regardless, your religious beliefs have no relevance to marriage, which is a CIVIL institution.

And what if it's a man and a man who love each other? Or a woman and a woman? Who are you to tell them that they have no right to love each other in the way that straight couples do?

[Gaelic Celtia]

No because even though they do not believe in God, they might one day see the light. As long as it is a man and a woman who love each other God smiles upon the love regardless of current religious belief.

Regardless, your religious beliefs have no relevance to marriage, which is a CIVIL institution.

Well apparently all the legal systems in the world are wrong because it doesn't exist. After all, Phoenix knows everything remember? He even can speak for what god does and does not condone.

[Phoenixfox]

Gay sex results in high transmission of disease, studies have shown...more than heterosexual. Gays adopting denies the child the right to either a mother or father. Though I am more accepting of adoption than marriage for gays because I have seen the some children CAN be happy without a father or mother.

For the first, there is such a thing as protection. People can use it. That is not inherent in sexuality. Also, lesbian women have the lowest transmission rates. Second, studies show that while having a two parent stable household is important, the sex of those parents does not affect the health or well-being of the child.

If you're a young girl, going through early puberty having your first period...two fathers can't really help you with that. The child is at a disadvantage. Many examples like that where a child would benefit more from having one parent from each sex.

[Liriena]

Do you support banning atheists, Hindus, Buddhists etc. from getting married?

No because even though they do not believe in God, they might one day see the light. As long as it is a man and a woman who love each other God smiles upon the love regardless of current religious belief.

Let me ask you this: Do you understand the term "separation of Church and State"? And if you do, do you intend to respect it? If you intend to respect it, why do you base your arguments against the legal recognition of same-sex unions on your personal religious values? Remember, your personal religious values are just as legitimate in the eyes of the law as those of pro-LGBT Christians and pagans, so the legitimacy of such arguments is severely lacking.

[Sibirsky]

No because even though they do not believe in God, they might one day see the light. As long as it is a man and a woman who love each other God smiles upon the love regardless of current religious belief.

Regardless, your religious beliefs have no relevance to marriage, which is a CIVIL institution.

And what if it's a man and a man who love each other? Or a woman and a woman? Who are you to tell them that they have no right to love each other in the way that straight couples do?

That argument does not seem to work.

Otherwise, why are there 832+ posts?

[Gaelic Celtia]

For the first, there is such a thing as protection. People can use it. That is not inherent in sexuality. Also, lesbian women have the lowest transmission rates. Second, studies show that while having a two parent stable household is important, the sex of those parents does not affect the health or well-being of the child.

If you're a young girl, going through early puberty having your first period...two fathers can't really help you with that. The child is at a disadvantage. Many examples like that where a child would benefit more from having one parent from each sex.

Because as we all know, the internet doesnt exist, and doctors CERTAINLY cannot help with that.

[Othelos]

Do you support banning atheists, Hindus, Buddhists etc. from getting married?

No because even though they do not believe in God, they might one day see the light. As long as it is a man and a woman who love each other God smiles upon the love regardless of current religious belief.

How is two people in love any different than two other people in love?

[Alyakia]

For the first, there is such a thing as protection. People can use it. That is not inherent in sexuality. Also, lesbian women have the lowest transmission rates. Second, studies show that while having a two parent stable household is important, the sex of those parents does not affect the health or well-being of the child.

If you're a young girl, going through early puberty having your first period...two fathers can't really help you with that. The child is at a disadvantage. Many examples like that where a child would benefit more from having one parent from each sex.

on the plus side if they were stuck in an orphanage they'd probably have female staff.

[Utceforp]

If you're a young girl, going through early puberty having your first period...two fathers can't really help you with that. The child is at a disadvantage. Many examples like that where a child would benefit more from having one parent from each sex.

Because as we all know, the internet doesnt exist, and doctors CERTAINLY cannot help with that.

And apparently aunts, sisters, cousins, grandmothers and other older female relatives don't exist either.

[Sibirsky]

For the first, there is such a thing as protection. People can use it. That is not inherent in sexuality. Also, lesbian women have the lowest transmission rates. Second, studies show that while having a two parent stable household is important, the sex of those parents does not affect the health or well-being of the child.

If you're a young girl, going through early puberty having your first period...two fathers can't really help you with that. The child is at a disadvantage. Many examples like that where a child would benefit more from having one parent from each sex.

Being born to religious parents can also very often become a real disadvantage.

Ban religion?

[Phoenixfox]

What they experience is a temporary surge of pleasure and freedom as a result of abandoning the rules God has in place for our own good. Not true happiness...can never be, even if they convince themselves otherwise.

Don't melt the glue holding your wings together Icarus. Might want to come down lower to earth. Do not insult me and every other person here with your high horse religious snobbery. It is pathetic.

I pity you, truly.

[Gaelic Celtia]

Because as we all know, the internet doesnt exist, and doctors CERTAINLY cannot help with that.

And apparently aunts, sisters, cousins, grandmothers and other older female relatives don't exist either.

Well, fuck, if he says it is so, it must be so!

[Krazakistan]

Don't melt the glue holding your wings together Icarus. Might want to come down lower to earth. Do not insult me and every other person here with your high horse religious snobbery. It is pathetic.

I pity you, truly.

Okay, enough. Seriously. Enough with this religious high horse bullshit.

You're embarrassing yourself.

[Gaelic Celtia]

Don't melt the glue holding your wings together Icarus. Might want to come down lower to earth. Do not insult me and every other person here with your high horse religious snobbery. It is pathetic.

I pity you, truly.

Oh spare me the self righteous bull shit

[Phoenixfox]

Don't delude yourself...there not really such thing as marriage without God. That is why gay partners marrying is so offensive to me...it is literally shoving your sin and defiance in the face of God

You are offensive to me.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

[Liriena]

For the first, there is such a thing as protection. People can use it. That is not inherent in sexuality. Also, lesbian women have the lowest transmission rates. Second, studies show that while having a two parent stable household is important, the sex of those parents does not affect the health or well-being of the child.

If you're a young girl, going through early puberty having your first period...two fathers can't really help you with that. The child is at a disadvantage. Many examples like that where a child would benefit more from having one parent from each sex.

First of all, your example assumes that those two fathers would be utterly unable to aid and comfort the girl through her first period. This is blatantly false. Unless those two fathers happened to be abysmally stupid, I'm sure they would understand, or research to try to understand what their daughter is going through, and help her to the best of their ability.

Furthermore, unless we're talking about a very special case (and I'm already bracing myself for your ad hoc), I'm sure that there would be at least one woman (either a family friend, an aunt, a grandmother, the biological mother, etc.) who would be able to guide the girl through her period.

Got any more examples based on the premise that homosexual parents are idiots who don't know the first thing about the opposide sex's physiology and psychological processes, can't do the research, and have absolutely no acquaintances of the opposite they can rely on?

[Sibirsky]

You are offensive to me.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

You haven't said anything truthful. You're just using religion to justify your bigotry.

[Meowfoundland]

For the first, there is such a thing as protection. People can use it. That is not inherent in sexuality. Also, lesbian women have the lowest transmission rates. Second, studies show that while having a two parent stable household is important, the sex of those parents does not affect the health or well-being of the child.

If you're a young girl, going through early puberty having your first period...two fathers can't really help you with that. The child is at a disadvantage. Many examples like that where a child would benefit more from having one parent from each sex.

You do realise that there are more role models than just parents, right? And that people are actually capable of understanding what someone of another gender is going through?

[Liriena]

You are offensive to me.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

Pot, that's not a kettle.

[Regnum Dominae]

Phoenixfox, you still have yet to provide a single valid reason that gay marriage should be banned.