Scotland to legalize Gay Marriage

[Neutraligon]

Well, let's think about this objectively.

Who, exactly, are you helping, when you force others to go against who they naturally are?

Helping them fight their sinful urges (whether natural or not is debatable) and find happiness through god rather than sin so that they may have eternal life. Sounds pretty helpful to me.

Since it isn't sin that doesn't matter.

[Wisconsin9]

Well, let's think about this objectively.

Who, exactly, are you helping, when you force others to go against who they naturally are?

Helping them fight their sinful urges (whether natural or not is debatable) and find happiness through god rather than sin so that they may have eternal life. Sounds pretty helpful to me.

Sound pretty annoying to everyone else.

[Krazakistan]

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This is getting AQ'd

[Solaray]

Cheering is too mainstream for me.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna hop in my MINI Cooper, don my lenseless glasses and ride to Starbucks at the local bookstore, where I'll go on my Macbook and write on my blog about vegan cheesecake recipes. All while wearing an ironic T-shirt.

Ooh, send me those recipes, will ya? My family's been looking for a good one.

First you buy some cheese. Then you remember cheese is made of milk. You buy soy milk and attempt to make your own soy cheese. You fail and give up, and buy a bag of macadamia nuts from the supermarket instead.

Yeah I actually don't know any vegan cheesecake recipes... which is fine by me, since regular cheesecake is delicious.

[Gaelic Celtia]

Helping them fight their sinful urges (whether natural or not is debatable) and find happiness through god rather than sin so that they may have eternal life. Sounds pretty helpful to me.

Sound pretty annoying to everyone else.

Oppressively annoying, even.

[Wisconsin9]

Ooh, send me those recipes, will ya? My family's been looking for a good one.

First you buy some cheese. Then you remember cheese is made of milk. You buy soy milk and attempt to make your own soy cheese. You fail and give up, and buy a bag of macadamia nuts from the supermarket instead.

Oh. Well, if that's all it takes for you to give up...

You make soy cheese out of tofu, by the way, or at least that's how we do it.

[Ainin]

Ooh, send me those recipes, will ya? My family's been looking for a good one.

First you buy some cheese. Then you remember cheese is made of milk. You buy soy milk and attempt to make your own soy cheese. You fail and give up, and buy a bag of macadamia nuts from the supermarket instead.

Yeah I actually don't know any vegan cheesecake recipes... which is fine by me, since regular cheesecake is delicious.

Caramel cheesecake is amazing.

[Othelos]

Well, let's think about this objectively.

Who, exactly, are you helping, when you force others to go against who they naturally are?

Helping them fight their sinful urges (whether natural or not is debatable) and find happiness through god rather than sin so that they may have eternal life. Sounds pretty helpful to me.

Have you ever tried to surpress all sexual urges because you feel perverted?

Thought not. Depression and self hatred aren't fun. So stop pretending like you're helping, and recognize how harmful what you're advocating actually is.

[Phoenixfox]

It is a typical response of a sinner to become angry when confronted with his sins. It is selfish in the sense that they are putting their own sexual desires in front of the desires of their creator. And I have not thrown anyone under the bus. I truly want us to find a compromise that allows gays to be happy and live their life while still maintaining the purity of marriage.

The purity of marriage?

The fuck?

Here's a serious question that I expect an answer for: If you're so pushy for the sanctity of marriage to be upheld by denying a group of people basic human rights, why haven't you made any arguments against divorce? It says pretty clearly in your "holy" book that divorce is not allowed.

Divorce is strongly discouraged and breaks the bonds of marriage, which saddens God. I'm not sure if it's considered a sin, but if it is, it is one that has become too commonplace in society for me to fix it. SSM however is something that can still be fought against, and it is my obligation to do so.

[Wisconsin9]

The purity of marriage?

The fuck?

Here's a serious question that I expect an answer for: If you're so pushy for the sanctity of marriage to be upheld by denying a group of people basic human rights, why haven't you made any arguments against divorce? It says pretty clearly in your "holy" book that divorce is not allowed.

Divorce is strongly discouraged and breaks the bonds of marriage, which saddens God. I'm not sure if it's considered a sin, but if it is, it is one that has become too commonplace in society for me to fix it. SSM however is something that can still be fought against, and it is my obligation to do so.

So God's emotions matter, but fuck everyone else?

[Neutraligon]

The purity of marriage?

The fuck?

Here's a serious question that I expect an answer for: If you're so pushy for the sanctity of marriage to be upheld by denying a group of people basic human rights, why haven't you made any arguments against divorce? It says pretty clearly in your "holy" book that divorce is not allowed.

Divorce is strongly discouraged and breaks the bonds of marriage, which saddens God. I'm not sure if it's considered a sin, but if it is, it is one that has become too commonplace in society for me to fix it. SSM however is something that can still be fought against, and it is my obligation to do so.

Not really, since not everyone is of your religion. Also, it is rather hard to redact a right once given, and the right to have their marriages recognized is spreading.

[Marcurix]

The purity of marriage?

The fuck?

Here's a serious question that I expect an answer for: If you're so pushy for the sanctity of marriage to be upheld by denying a group of people basic human rights, why haven't you made any arguments against divorce? It says pretty clearly in your "holy" book that divorce is not allowed.

Divorce is strongly discouraged and breaks the bonds of marriage, which saddens God. I'm not sure if it's considered a sin, but if it is, it is one that has become too commonplace in society for me to fix it. SSM however is something that can still be fought against, and it is my obligation to do so.

No it isn't.

[Phoenixfox]

One of them is the holy word of God, that's why.

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

[Solaray]

First you buy some cheese. Then you remember cheese is made of milk. You buy soy milk and attempt to make your own soy cheese. You fail and give up, and buy a bag of macadamia nuts from the supermarket instead.

Oh. Well, if that's all it takes for you to give up...

You make soy cheese out of tofu, by the way, or at least that's how we do it.

I figured, but I wasn't quite sure. Regardless, I just practice the standard omnivorous diet and eat regular cheese, so it's irrelevant.

[Utceforp]

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

Source?

[Menassa]

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

You do know that that Torah and the Old Testament are pretty much the same thing right?

[San]

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

facepalm

and lets get this threadjack over with, k?

[Neutraligon]

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

There is a very long very complicated proof of 1+1=2. No such proof lies behind your claim that your religion is the holy word of god.

[Gaelic Celtia]

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

Every single religion thinks they are adding 2+2 and getting 4. try and tell them they're wrong. go on, tell every single one of the 1000's of denominations that you are right, and each and every one of them are wrong. See what happens.

[Neutraligon]

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

Every single religion thinks they are adding 2+2. try and tell them they're wrong. go on, tell every single one of the 1000's of denominations that you are right, and have and ever one of them are wrong. See what happens.

Not just the 1000s of denominations, go tell the thousands of denominations of other religions as well.

[Othelos]

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

Members of other religions could say the same about Christianity.

There is no objective reason why your religion is more valid than that of another person.

[Phoenixfox]

I try to shove salvation down their throat

Like parents try to force their kids to eat veggies even if they don't like it. It's good for them.

I never knew that deliberately oppressing a group of people is good for them.

"You can't make me eat my veggies, mommy! It's oppression! Raah!"

[Wisconsin9]

And why is yours the holy word of a god. Are you saying the Torah is not? The Quran? That the Hindu are wrong in their beliefs? What makes yours the "right" one?

It just is. What makes 2+2 equal 4. It just is. Are 2+2=5 and 2+2=6 wrong for their beliefs?

Actually, you can use math to prove that 2+2=4. So, no, it isn't "just is".

[Neutraligon]

I never knew that deliberately oppressing a group of people is good for them.

"You can't make me eat my veggies, mommy! It's oppression! Raah!"

Ah but not eating your veggies can cause quite significant physical harm, and in addition we are not talking about children. Marriage between those of the same sex does not cause harm, and is not dealing with children.

[Phoenixfox]

I try to shove salvation down their throat

Like parents try to force their kids to eat veggies even if they don't like it. It's good for them.

It's naive to think that people will accept 'salvation' shoved down their throats.

Are you advocating forced conversion?

Of course not. Forced conversion is not conversion at all.

I do not intent to shove anything down throats, just show you the path and allow you follow it if you so choose.