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The Democratic States of Khazakia
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Is Kosovo part of Serbia?

Postby The Democratic States of Khazakia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:28 pm

I don't know if there's already a thread for this, or if it was locked by a mod. If so, :palm:.
I just want to hear everyone's opinion on this, and/or the other un-internationally recognized nations. It's not my intention to start some cyber-war or anything.
First of all, I fully support Kosovo, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland, Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic/Western Sahara, and Transnistria. What about you guys?
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Postby DrakoLand » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:30 pm

De jure, yes
De facto, no


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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:31 pm

No. I support Kosovo's independence.

Also, it's not like Kosovo is just going to return to Serbia. They're going to stay independent whether you like it or not.
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:34 pm

My map says it does not.

But really, anyone who cares about this should stop doing so. With, maybe, the exception of the people actually living in Kosovo. And even they would probably be better off not caring and worrying about more important things.
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Postby The Democratic States of Khazakia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:36 pm

Neu Leonstein wrote:My map says it does not.

But really, anyone who cares about this should stop doing so. With, maybe, the exception of the people actually living in Kosovo. And even they would probably be better off not caring and worrying about more important things.

Well, is your map from before 2008? National Geographic has confirmed the Kosovar independence, but then again, it is an American brand...
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Postby Conscentia » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:38 pm

Neu Leonstein wrote:My map says it does not.

But really, anyone who cares about this should stop doing so. With, maybe, the exception of the people actually living in Kosovo. And even they would probably be better off not caring and worrying about more important things.

Maps can become outdated. My map has Kosovo, but lacks South Sudan (even though the independence of South Sudan is not debated to my knowledge).
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:39 pm

Something I dislike in special about the international policy of the Lula and Dilma governments are the way they almost say Serbia has an inherent right to Kosovo.

We will gain more from Camba independence (eastern flat Bolivia) than we would lose with Rio Grande do Sul independence, that is the most laughable one of all independence movements worldwide (O Sul É O Meu País, República Paulista and O Rio É O Meu País would not be serious business even if the first man on Mars supported it) anyway, so we aren't any like Spain to worry.

Actually, we should recognize an unilateral Camba as soon as one could, to make them sure again being pro-Brazilian is good, and to tell other South American countries who feel so much in their own shoes like Paraguay and Evo's pet project itself who's boss.
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Postby Greater Sveriege » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:41 pm

Kosovo is a part of Sweden
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Postby Britanno » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:41 pm

No.
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Postby The new united britsh empire » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:42 pm

De Facto No
De Jure No!!!
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I support the country of Sealand

Postby Randow » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:42 pm

Sealand Lovely and other micro nations should be recognized as well

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Postby San » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:42 pm

It's clearly Belgium.
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Postby Flyover » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:43 pm

No; of course not! Only a fool and a dirty commiemuslimnazi could even think so!

Serbia is part of Kosovo obvy.
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Postby San » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:43 pm

Randow wrote:Sealand Lovely and other micro nations should be recognized as well

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Postby Nuverikstan » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:43 pm

Well according to the world yes, but I wouldn't mind if it was free. I also support all the other little nations you mentioned except Somaliland. If Somaliland is free I think it would become worse then it is there.
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:44 pm

The Democratic States of Khazakia wrote:Well, is your map from before 2008? National Geographic has confirmed the Kosovar independence, but then again, it is an American brand...

The map I'm currently thinking of is from google. But let's face it, the only maps who don't recognise this are those who are issued with a political agenda in mind, especially since the Republic of Kosovo has effective control over most, if not all, of the geography.

At any rate, the way many people in the Balkans treat borders and things makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit. It's like the rest of Europe 70 years ago, and that's been empirically shown to be really, really dumb.
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Postby Mandicoria » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:44 pm

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Postby Nervium » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:44 pm

It's part of Bolivia.

Or at least should be.
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Postby Marsisian » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:44 pm

No, Kosovo is independent.

They should make another Yugoslavia.
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Postby Italia and San Marino » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:44 pm

Independent since 2012?
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Postby Bolkania » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:45 pm

Kosovo Je Srbija!!!

Now, I've got that out, the majority of the world recognise it apart from two very important S.C members: Russia and China, and more nations. See wiki.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:45 pm

The Democratic States of Khazakia wrote:I don't know if there's already a thread for this, or if it was locked by a mod. If so, :palm:.
I just want to hear everyone's opinion on this, and/or the other un-internationally recognized nations. It's not my intention to start some cyber-war or anything.
First of all, I fully support Kosovo
yes
Abkhzia,
yes
South Ossetia,
not sure
Nagorno-Karabakh,
not sure
Somaliland,
yes
Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic/Western Sahara,
no idea
and Transnistria.

OH GOD NO. NO. That soviet relic does not belong in the 21st century.
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Postby Naas Femteq » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:46 pm

Flyover wrote:No; of course not! Only a fool and a dirty commiemuslimnazi could even think so!

Serbia is part of Kosovo obvy.

What do you have against Communists and Muslims?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:46 pm

Marsisian wrote:No, Kosovo is independent.

They should make another Yugoslavia.

Do you have any idea what an utterly terrible idea that is?
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