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by Blazedtown » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:31 pm

by Sun Wukong » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:31 pm
ShadowDragons wrote:The big bang is a crap theory. How did all the matter come to be in the first place? The theory doesn't explain it. I say god created all the matter and forces in the universe. He created the matter that caused the big bang.

by Rabopari » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:33 pm
Regnum Dominae wrote:ShadowDragons wrote:The big bang is a crap theory. How did all the matter come to be in the first place? The theory doesn't explain it. I say god created all the matter and forces in the universe. He created the matter that caused the big bang.
I can't tell if you're serious or not.
If you're going to use that terrible logic, what created god?

by ShadowDragons » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:36 pm
Regnum Dominae wrote:ShadowDragons wrote:The big bang is a crap theory. How did all the matter come to be in the first place? The theory doesn't explain it. I say god created all the matter and forces in the universe. He created the matter that caused the big bang.
I can't tell if you're serious or not.
If you're going to use that terrible logic, what created god?

by Regnum Dominae » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:37 pm

by Rabopari » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:41 pm
Microsol wrote:I highly doubt any of our uninformed opinions on the creation of universe are of any value.


by Grave_n_idle » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:07 pm
Great Kleomentia wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:
I can never actually be perfect, or know everything.
That doesn't mean I'm going to stop trying to be better than I am, trying to learn more than I know.
Self-improvement is great. But wasting time on something that you know cant be achieved is stupidity and has nothing to do with self-improvement.

by Grave_n_idle » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:09 pm
Microsol wrote:I highly doubt any of our uninformed opinions on the creation of universe are of any value.

by Great Kleomentia » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:10 pm
Grave_n_idle wrote:Great Kleomentia wrote:Self-improvement is great. But wasting time on something that you know cant be achieved is stupidity and has nothing to do with self-improvement.
So striving to understand that which we don't understand is stupidity? I'm sorry, I just find your value system depressing.

by Grave_n_idle » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:22 pm
Great Kleomentia wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:
So striving to understand that which we don't understand is stupidity? I'm sorry, I just find your value system depressing.
No, striving to understand that which we dont unsterstand is self-improvement. That is good. Striving to understand that which we can not understand is stupidity.

by Great Kleomentia » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:28 pm
Grave_n_idle wrote:Great Kleomentia wrote:No, striving to understand that which we dont unsterstand is self-improvement. That is good. Striving to understand that which we can not understand is stupidity.
On the contrary, we can only know what we can't understand by striving to understand it.
Regardless, you're the one who thinks we can't understand. That's your belief, I guess. And that explains why you find the whole pursuit so pointless.
Me, I don't feel nearly so limited.

by Pope Joan » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:40 pm

by Utceforp » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:56 pm
Pope Joan wrote:I am inclined toward the "steady state" with, of course, fluctuations.
The actual Hebrew Bible text for BeReshith (Genesis) does not start with "In THE beginning", but "In A beginning".
So apparently there were or may be other beginnings. Why not? Why insist on being in any way special?
http://kehillatisrael.net/docs/dt/dt_bereshit.html

by Grave_n_idle » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:19 am
Great Kleomentia wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:
On the contrary, we can only know what we can't understand by striving to understand it.
Regardless, you're the one who thinks we can't understand. That's your belief, I guess. And that explains why you find the whole pursuit so pointless.
Me, I don't feel nearly so limited.
I believe that humans are only limited with time. In reality there is no limit to anything, if there was then nothing would exist. The fact that there is no limit means we cant understand the creation, as it is the creation of eternity and infinity. The question itself is wether there was a creation or not. As time itself is a relative thing. So with a little thinking, one could come to the idea that we really cant understand the creation of everything, especially if it doesnt exist. Thus rendering the pursuit for the answer a waste of time which could be spent on useful and practical self-improvement. Though of course, i am merely human, there is no need for me to be correct about anything. So this whole idea of mine could be nothing more than just an idea. But still, as a human i chose to cling on to this idea, or at least until something manages to change my mind.
Also to add. We have strived to understand the creation since our history can record our existance. Man has always wondered, speculated and debated this. The fact that we are no closer to the answer after thousands of years may be a clue to something.

by Boomhaueristan » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:27 am

by Mkuki » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:28 am
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.

by Tyriece » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:17 am
Mavorpen wrote:Tyriece wrote:The Big bang is a incomplete theory that is part of a bigger theory which is called the Ekpyrotic Universe theory. http://wwwphy.princeton.edu/~steinh/npr/
No, it isn't. The Ekpyrotic Universe theory is an extension of M-Theory which itself is an extension of string theory. The Big Bang is not a part of the Ekpyrotic Universe anymore than it is a part of Eternal Inflation.Tyriece wrote:But there are things about it that make some scientists uneasy. For starters, the idea that the universe underwent a period of rapid inflation early in its history cannot be directly tested, and it relies on the existence of a mysterious form of energy in the universe's beginning that has long disappeared. Inflation is an extremely powerful theory, and yet we still have no idea what caused inflation. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20250302/
Uh...no. The idea behind what causes inflation is a "repulsive gravity" created by a negative pressure. We have observed such negative pressure during experiments and use Einstein's equations to make predictions about inflation.Tyriece wrote:There are many things that we are not sure of such as How did life begin? What is consciousness? What is dark matter, dark energy, gravity?
And if anyone here can fully answer these questions with there research I suggest you speak to the Norwegian Nobel Committee for your Nobel Peace Prize.
Was there even a point to this post other than to pretend you have a clue what you're talking about?

by Phoenixfox » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:21 am

by Tyriece » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:24 am
Phoenixfox wrote:It was created by the Christian God in a process of 7 days. How long ago this occurred, nobody knows.

by Phoenixfox » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:25 am

by Grave_n_idle » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:27 am
Phoenixfox wrote:It was created by the Christian God in a process of 7 days. How long ago this occurred, nobody knows.

by Sebtopiaris » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:29 am

by Trotskylvania » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:42 am
Tyriece wrote:Mavorpen wrote:No, it isn't. The Ekpyrotic Universe theory is an extension of M-Theory which itself is an extension of string theory. The Big Bang is not a part of the Ekpyrotic Universe anymore than it is a part of Eternal Inflation.
Uh...no. The idea behind what causes inflation is a "repulsive gravity" created by a negative pressure. We have observed such negative pressure during experiments and use Einstein's equations to make predictions about inflation.
Was there even a point to this post other than to pretend you have a clue what you're talking about?
The big bang IS still part of the string theory, how ever it is used differently. Also while inflation in part is driven by negative pressure it is unknown what mechanism is responsible for inflation. Please do some more research and come back -_-
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