How did the Universe come to be?

[European Socialist Republic]

Most of your lives don't have a meaning.
Born, education, job, marriage perhaps, scientific breakthrough perhaps, children perhaps, theories, theories, theories, theories, old age, death. The End.

How is your life different?

[Divair]

Most of your lives don't have a meaning.
Born, education, job, marriage perhaps, scientific breakthrough perhaps, children perhaps, theories, theories, theories, theories, old age, death. The End.

You just mentioned a whole lot of meaning.

[The Solar System Scope]

Most of your lives don't have a meaning.
Born, education, marriage perhaps, scientific breakthrough perhaps, children perhaps, theories, theories, theories, theories, old age, death. The End.

Don't be rude. Declaring that an atheist's life has no meaning is the last refuge of someone who has been out-argued.

I'm not rude. I just show that death is something most of us will go through and after that there is nothing (according to you, but I don't believe in heaven or hell after death)

[Divair]

Don't be rude. Declaring that an atheist's life has no meaning is the last refuge of someone who has been out-argued.

I'm not rude. I just show that death is something most of us will go through and after that there is nothing (according to you, but I don't believe in heaven or hell after death)

How is this remotely relevant?

[The Solar System Scope]

I'm not rude. I just show that death is something most of us will go through and after that there is nothing (according to you, but I don't believe in heaven or hell after death)

How is this remotely relevant?

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

[Grave_n_idle]

Most of your lives don't have a meaning.
Born, education, job, marriage perhaps, scientific breakthrough perhaps, children perhaps, theories, theories, theories, theories, old age, death. The End.

Not sure how that equates to 'no meaning'. Also not sure how that's an argument relating to how the world came to be.

[Divair]

How is this remotely relevant?

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

The Big Bang has nothing to do with immortality, the afterlife, or the end of the universe.

[Grave_n_idle]

How is this remotely relevant?

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

That's still not an argument for how the universe came to be - it's just an argument for why you might PREFER to believe in a god.

[European Socialist Republic]

How is this remotely relevant?

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

Reality doesn't care what illusions you believe in.

[Farnhamia]

How is this remotely relevant?

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

I don't want to be your god's friend and besides, as far as I can tell he doesn't exist. Even if he did exist he doesn't sound like a very nice person. Feel free to believe what you like, but really, don't substitute a creation myth for science.

[Norstal]

How is this remotely relevant?

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

If you derive meaning from God, then where does that meaning came from? God itself? But where is the meaning in that? What is the meaning of an eternal life? It is just like an eternal death.

[Norstal]

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

Reality doesn't care what illusions you believe in.

Let him have his illusions. It's still meaningless. If there's a god and you get to heaven, there's still no meaning in that because that means that meaning requires creation and we don't know who created that god or that god doesn't have meaning at all if he were to just have existed since time.

[Great Nepal]

Welcome to a universe of big numbers. There are literally millions of planets like ours.

Well, why can't we find one then, huh?

The same reason why extraterrestrial life must exist; universe is damn big an as a species we have just sent unmanned craft barely past our solar system and havent sent people further than Earths nice, comfortable, safe orbit.

[The Solar System Scope]

How can a simulator of the solar system exist if there aren't any perfect laws that allow us to calculate the motions of the celestial objects?

[Farnhamia]

How can a simulator of the solar system exist if there aren't any perfect laws that allow us to calculate the motions of the celestial objects?

Observation and math.

[L Ron Cupboard]

How can a simulator of the solar system exist if there aren't any perfect laws that allow us to calculate the motions of the celestial objects?

How can a nation states simulator exist when there aren't any perfect laws of politics?

[Brickistan]

How can a simulator of the solar system exist if there aren't any perfect laws that allow us to calculate the motions of the celestial objects?

And so?

All that shows is that the universe are governed by the laws of physics.

[Sun Wukong]

Welcome to a universe of big numbers. There are literally millions of planets like ours.

Well, why can't we find one then, huh?

We have.

If you're asking why we can't go to them, that's because space is very very big. Honestly, that you claim to be an astronomer...

[Farnhamia]

Well, why can't we find one then, huh?

We have.

If you're asking why we can't go to them, that's because space is very very big. Honestly, that you claim to be an astronomer...

The crystal overlords won't let us go.

[Sun Wukong]

How is this remotely relevant?

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

So you believe it because the alternative frightens you?

Yep. Good science there.

[Breadknife]

How can a simulator of the solar system exist if there aren't any perfect laws that allow us to calculate the motions of the celestial objects?

Ah, I see where your name comes from now. I may have a look later.

But, in the meantime, maybe you ought to ask Henri Poincare about what happened when he thought he'd simulated the solar-system. (Ask him about the prize he 'won' in 1887, and how much it cost him to withdraw his initial "solution"...)

[Nervium]

Big Bang: We're all going to die and the Universe will end.
Creation: If we believe in God and follow his laws, we can be His friends and live forever on Earth most of us.

So you believe it because the alternative frightens you?

Yep. Good science there.

Well. If that's the case, I cease to believe in death.

It'll go away then, right?

[Farnhamia]

So you believe it because the alternative frightens you?

Yep. Good science there.

Well. If that's the case, I cease to believe in death.

It'll go away then, right?

Well, at some point you won't notice it.

[Sun Wukong]

So you believe it because the alternative frightens you?

Yep. Good science there.

Well. If that's the case, I cease to believe in death.

It'll go away then, right?

Not exactly. But it has been forced into a new line of work:

[Breadknife]

Well. If that's the case, I cease to believe in death.

It'll go away then, right?

Not exactly. But it has been forced into a new line of work:

HO HO HO!