Monsanto gmos found to be killing babies in the womb

[Sociobiology]

There are many good reasons to despise Monsanto as a company. They are incredibly predatory in developing countries (To the point of out-right lying about how their GMOs work), and abuse legal loop-holes in the US to the detriment of farmers. Their approach to GMOs is also nothing short of predatory and disingenuous in nature, as well.

This, however, is just out-right paranoia. Further, the problems with Monsanto are in no way related to GMOs in general.

Indeed. There are tons of valid political, ecological, and socioeconomic arguments to be made against the use of GMOs.

such as?

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Yeah, the Industrial Revolution is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind...

It probably is. It subverted the natural order and has led to the cult of the science-industrial complex which controls us to this day.

Now hold the phone right here!

Nothing here is unnatural! Even during the industrial revolution everything was fucking natural, nothing in the industrial revolution was unnatural since it came into existence, it is a part of our nature, its a part of the universe.

And what cult? Is intelligence and understanding bad? You do know that science is a very natural part of Humans do you? Humans evolved to this state for a reason, and why is industry bad, with how Humans do it sure it can be bad depending on what it is, but it isn't bad by default.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Strange fact, typing ramblingconspiracybullshit.com into the URL search bar will redirect you to NaturalNews. (go on, try it)

I love you, it worked, you were telling the truth

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

I don't think the cavemen had it better than we do...

In some ways they did. For example they were'nt being constantly forcefed genetic gmo food and injected with poisonous allopathy.

Yeah, and instead they died of young ages, had to suffer horrible climates and disease, and best of all they all got to live in the end of a Death World, at least we didn't pop up near the Dinosaurs, I thinking being gutted by a Mammoth serves a better death :|

But really, no....our ancestors had it far worse, as well they were intellectually retarded...

[Shaggai]

Natural News. You cited Natural News?

Indeed. There are tons of valid political, ecological, and socioeconomic arguments to be made against the use of GMOs.

such as?

I don't know about political, but ecologically: GMOs promote lack of biodiversity, for one thing. I believe that a certain gene, which made plants immune to a powerful herbicide, led to the almost exclusive use of that herbicide on weeds, which then evolved to be immune to it as well and killed off the crops. I have no source right now, but I can try to find one if you ask. As for economically, I assume Bottle was referring to Monsanto's unethical business practices, which are by no means inherent to GMOs but are likely to be picked up by any major company due to the easy profit.

[The Serbian Empire]

Yeah, the Industrial Revolution is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind...

It probably is. It subverted the natural order and has led to the cult of the science-industrial complex which controls us to this day.

That complex emerged after the Industrial Revolution as the tools for science were improved.

[Regnum Dominae]

GMO foods give mice and rats tumors after a while, and the a mouse fed GMO food won't have great grandchildren...as its grandchildren are sterile.

Are you talking about the Seralini "study"? Because that was retracted after being debunked over and over and over again.

Monsanto and GMO foods are a danger to the human race.

How?

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Oh for fucks sake where do I even begin. Not a single one of the sources you used is reliable or trustworthy in any way.

The claims about indian gmo suicides have been debunked. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... rops-india
The seralini study has been debunked: http://www.gmwatch.org/index.php/news/a ... lini-study (it has even been retracted)
The pig corn study has been as well: http://www.marklynas.org/2013/06/gmo-pi ... k-science/

The overwhelming scientific consensus is for the safety of gmo food and you have yet to prove me wrong.

Also, I actually LIKE monsanto, so just saying "lol evil monsanto" doesn't mean anything to me.

Let me guess you work for monsanto, or are funded/bought and paid for by them in some way? Because there is no other explanation why anyone would support something as truly evil as Monsanto.

Nah, your not serious, can't be :|

Your ignorance towards the concept of nature and Human nature as well as your lack of even any basic grasp of reality should not be possible, I just can't take your argument seriously.

I don't doubt your a good person or that you mean well, but your entire stance is unfounded and stupid at this point :|

[Regnum Dominae]

That explains all the strange new illnesses of these modern times. Combined that with the microwaves from those cellular phones which are hitting us everyday and we have a big problem.
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No it doesn't, and EMR from cellphones doesn't cause cancer despite what some people like to claim.

[Nazi Flower Power]

It's a witch doctor website.
It has no scientific validity, nor journalistic validity.

As if your monsanto-agro-pharma shill "mainstream" websites had any vailidity or credibility. Naturalnews exposes the truth about natural health in a world where science is controlled by an establishment of bought and paid for corporate shills.

Science is a Zionist conspiracy to destroy the Aryan Master Race by ruining the German food supply and preventing German women from having children. I've been trying to explain that to people since the 1920s, but nobody will listen.

[Vareiln]

hey guys did you know liberals want to MURDER BABIES by ripping them out of the womb of their loving mum??? aren't they all hitler??? p.s. justin bieber is great LOL YOLO

I'm sort of liberal (more of an anti-industrialist primitivist anarchist though) and I want to protect the millions of babies that get murdered by monsanto and its shills and its various cronies.

You disgrace anarchy.
Your callous disregard for scientific knowledge and the betterment of mankind is appalling.

[Regnum Dominae]

I just remembered something.

Do you guys remember the farmer suicide epidemic that happened after a failed Monsanto crop?

This is somewhat more related to Monsanto's business practices than GMOs.

Take a look.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 29250.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/21-monsa ... e-economy/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... crops.html

What "farmer suicide epidemic"?

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Except you're forgetting one thing: the human body is made out of CHEMICALS!

No its not, it is made of natural biological materials. Except for the chemicals present from the forced consumption of medicines and monsanto gmos.

-_-

Have you even gone to a single educational facility, do you even know what your doing?

I don't know if your a terrible joke or terribly serious...

[United Marxist Nations]

Except you're forgetting one thing: the human body is made out of CHEMICALS!

No its not, it is made of natural biological materials. Except for the chemicals present from the forced consumption of medicines and monsanto gmos.

"Natural biological materials" are CHEMICALS.

[Geilinor]

Natural News is not a scientific source. Please, stop torturing NSG.

[Geilinor]

I just remembered something.

Do you guys remember the farmer suicide epidemic that happened after a failed Monsanto crop?

This is somewhat more related to Monsanto's business practices than GMOs.

Take a look.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 29250.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/21-monsa ... e-economy/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... crops.html

What "farmer suicide epidemic"?

It is still an epidemic, but not caused by Monsanto. People have just become aware of the problem in recent years.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Quite a stubborn lad.

When you are the only one to know the truth, yes it is easy to be stubborn in defending it against incorrect information.

Ah yes, this delusional state :|

[United Marxist Nations]

What "farmer suicide epidemic"?

It is still an epidemic, but not caused by Monsanto. People have just become aware of the problem in recent years.

Considering the number of farmers in India, wouldn't that actually be a fairly low number?

[Geilinor]

It is still an epidemic, but not caused by Monsanto. People have just become aware of the problem in recent years.

Considering the number of farmers in India, wouldn't that actually be a fairly low number?

Well, yes, but the figures for the past 10 to 15 years add up to over 200,000 people.

[United Marxist Nations]

Considering the number of farmers in India, wouldn't that actually be a fairly low number?

Well, yes.

Isn't an epidemic supposed to be larger than normal?

[Regnum Dominae]

Considering the number of farmers in India, wouldn't that actually be a fairly low number?

Well, yes, but the figures for the past 10 to 15 years add up to over 200,000 people.

It is an actual problem, but it's been going on for several decades, has actually been declining for quite a while now, and has absolutely nothing to do with GM crops. Of course that doesn't stop the anti-GMO hysterics from spinning it as a "GMO genocide" (yes, seriously).

[United Marxist Nations]

Well, yes, but the figures for the past 10 to 15 years add up to over 200,000 people.

It is an actual problem, but it's been going on for several decades, has actually been declining for quite a while now, and has absolutely nothing to do with GM crops. Of course that doesn't stop the anti-GMO hysterics from spinning it as a "GMO genocide" (yes, seriously).

I remember someone telling me it had something to do with drought, for some reason.

[United Marxist Nations]

Considering the number of farmers in India, wouldn't that actually be a fairly low number?

Well, yes, but the figures for the past 10 to 15 years add up to over 200,000 people.

Yeah, but this isn't the United States where the population is only 300,000,000; in India, that's tiny. I bet the statistics for suicides in the US are comparable.

[Geilinor]

It is an actual problem, but it's been going on for several decades, has actually been declining for quite a while now, and has absolutely nothing to do with GM crops. Of course that doesn't stop the anti-GMO hysterics from spinning it as a "GMO genocide" (yes, seriously).

I remember someone telling me it had something to do with drought, for some reason.

Which would be correct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers'_suicides_in_India GMOs can help these people get crops which can better withstand drought, yet some of these anti-GMO people will never understand.

[Regnum Dominae]

We've been genetically manipulating them since our species existed, it seems to be working.

Not in a way that releases DNA inside our intestines that might be absorbed by our gut flora that then might cause health conditions.

I support the minimum period of tests for it being 1 year rather than banning it, as it is in my country. 3 months is a clear product of neoliberalism.

err...what?