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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:11 pm

Saruhan wrote:One drop rule and all


Well yes, I agree that Moors aren't Spanish, they were the unfortunate consequence of invaders that fortunately got driven back after centuries of struggle.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:12 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Most of Argentina and Uruguay, at least half of Brazil, so on.


I cannot ignore the native American component of their ancestry, so I can't recognize them as White unless they're indistinguishable from White Spaniards.

Please, stop talking.

The native American component of the ancestry of the majority of Argentinians is negligible, most likely no different from that of American caucasians with African, Mestizo or native American roots. For all purposes, the majority of Argentinians are of almost exclussive Spanish and/or Italian descent. My family's ancestry in particular is entirely Galicians, Mantovan and Sicilian. The average Argentinian is no less "white" than the average Italian.
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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:14 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Saruhan wrote:One drop rule and all


Well yes, I agree that Moors aren't Spanish, they were the unfortunate consequence of invaders that fortunately got driven back after centuries of struggle.


Funny how all that Islamic and Jewish money, infrastructure, learning and people helped build one of the largest empires the world has ever seen.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:14 pm

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Saiwania wrote:
I cannot ignore the native American component of their ancestry, so I can't recognize them as White unless they're indistinguishable from White Spaniards.


Stop pretending to understand even an iota of Latin America. It's not working for you.

Heck, he just resorted to a special pleading.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:15 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Well yes, I agree that Moors aren't Spanish, they were the unfortunate consequence of invaders that fortunately got driven back after centuries of struggle.


Funny how all that Islamic and Jewish money, infrastructure, learning and people helped build one of the largest empires the world has ever seen.

Pfff... you and your accurate description of European history!
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:17 pm

Forster Keys wrote:Stop pretending to understand even an iota of Latin America. It's not working for you.


I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.
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Postby Saruhan » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:18 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Well yes, I agree that Moors aren't Spanish, they were the unfortunate consequence of invaders that fortunately got driven back after centuries of struggle.


Funny how all that Islamic and Jewish money, infrastructure, learning and people helped build one of the largest empires the world has ever seen.

Nah, it was the shipbuilding of Galicia that was the infrastructure that the spanish homeland needed the most

Now, if we were talking about native gold...
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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:18 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:Stop pretending to understand even an iota of Latin America. It's not working for you.


I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.
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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:19 pm

Liriena wrote:
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Stop pretending to understand even an iota of Latin America. It's not working for you.

Heck, he just resorted to a special pleading.


Before people talk about things with confidence, they should have some idea of what they're speaking about. Painting a continent and a half as "brown" is just ridiculous and all too common in certain sectors of "white" society. But ignoring nuances and pushing forward irrelevances is the only way these ideas gain traction.
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Postby Jamjai » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:19 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.

she is an albino
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:19 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:Stop pretending to understand even an iota of Latin America. It's not working for you.


I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Yet the majority of Argentinians and Uruguayans are quite white, and a large part of the Brazilian people have distinctly Portuguese features.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:20 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.

Umm... can I marry her? :3
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Postby Saruhan » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:20 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.

But the Saami aren't "asian", same way Russians and Finns aren't Asian. Located on Asian continent (some) yes. But they're a Uralic people. But hey if you want to say finns and hungarians aren't white, be my guest

Edit: Is this going to become more frozen type thing?
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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:20 pm

Jamjai wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.

she is an albino

No she's not. Just very pale. Her name is Ella-Li Spik.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:21 pm

Jamjai wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.

she is an albino

That's not albino.

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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:Stop pretending to understand even an iota of Latin America. It's not working for you.


I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.


You don't seem to want to understand. When presented with information you just retreat back further into your isolationism. If that's what suits you, that's fine man. But don't sell your fantasy as fact.
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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:24 pm

Liriena wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Yet the majority of Argentinians and Uruguayans are quite white, and a large part of the Brazilian people have distinctly Portuguese features.


And everyone I've met from Rio Grande do Sul looks like they're from Milan.

But this shit barely matters anyway. I don't know why it's a concern.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:24 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.


Dang. She is a good looking.

But to add; I can introduce people to a very blond woman who was born in Saudi Arabia.......
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Postby Forster Keys » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:25 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.


Dang. She is a good looking.

But to add; I can introduce people to a very blond woman who was born in Saudi Arabia.......


I went to school with a couple of blonde Jordanians.
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Postby Saruhan » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:25 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?
Image


Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.


Dang. She is a good looking.

But to add; I can introduce people to a very blond woman who was born in Saudi Arabia.......

But that makes sense, given the rather large amout of russian/slavic slaves brought into the islamic world
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Postby The United Earth Conclave » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:27 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I don't need to understand Latin Americans to know that they aren't White if they don't have White skin. Only some are White at best. I'm certain that the majority of Mexicans aren't White.

Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.


Is she Saami/Saapmi? Because there was a eugenics program in the past to make the people more "white"

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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:28 pm

Saruhan wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?
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Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.

But the Saami aren't "asian", same way Russians and Finns aren't Asian. Located on Asian continent (some) yes. But they're a Uralic people. But hey if you want to say finns and hungarians aren't white, be my guest

Edit: Is this going to become more frozen type thing?

They speak Uralic languages, but they seem to have adopted them. They're genetically related to people like the Nenets (based on Y Chromosome and Mitochondrialevidence.)
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Postby Jamjai » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:28 pm

The United Earth Conclave wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?


Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.


Is she Saami/Saapmi? Because there was a eugenics program in the past to make the people more "white"

its Sami yea, also saami
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Postby Saruhan » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:28 pm

The United Earth Conclave wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?
Image


Because she's an Asianic reindeer herder.

These things aren't black and white.


Is she Saami/Saapmi? Because there was a eugenics program in the past to make the people more "white"

Source?
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:29 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:Is she white?


I'd very reluctantly consider her White, but that is besides the fact that your average Mexican isn't that pale. Most of them are clearly not White.
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