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Postby God Kefka » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:52 pm

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America isn't just a nation of immigrants... historically it's been a nation of white immigrants. This informs the dominant culture...


Who cares if whites have the dominant culture?

Why can't we allow more then one culture to exist?


it causes problems in California... like crime, trafficking, street wars and stuff. It just doesn't work well. And it threatens the white majority physically...

Whites should not be forced to become a minority in their own land you know?
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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:52 pm

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The mass influx of Hispanic immigration hasn't changed much, besides the hysteria of racists.


Except the demographics of the nation.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:52 pm

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Unless they can trace their roots back at least 3 generations, then yes.


So if someone built a life in America, had lots of friends here, made a lot of money, and was an immigrant you'd kick him out because of his race?

Tell me how that's not racist.

If what you proposed were to happen, I could say goodbye to half my friends.


You should have made better friends.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:52 pm

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This matters why?


America isn't just a nation of immigrants... historically it's been a nation of white immigrants. This informs the dominant culture...


Your compartmentalizing of wildly different groups of immigrants due to color of skin annoys me to no end. Do you really think that, say, the Russians, or the Italians, could truly be grouped with the English, all in one group of immigrants distinct from, say, the Peruvians?
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:52 pm

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You strike me as some sort of race supremacist, but don't get me wrong, not judging or anything....


National, not race. My issue is not with the fact their brown but the fact that they have a different country with different culture and a different language. I don't trust them or their loyalty to my country. Brown mexicans, white mexicans, black mexicans, asian mexicans, if that's even a thing, I don't like them and I don't want them here.


Why don't you like them? They're people, like you and me. They have families. They have jobs. They're usually nice.

If they moved their family all the way to this country, just to receive racism, don't you think they'd be pretty loyal to stay?
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Postby Norstal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:52 pm

God Kefka wrote:
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Who cares if whites have the dominant culture?

Why can't we allow more then one culture to exist?


it causes problems in California... like crime, trafficking, street wars and stuff. It just doesn't work well. And it threatens the white majority physically...

Whites should not be forced to become a minority in their own land you know?

Crimes like what? Street wars like what?

Do you even live in CA?
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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:54 pm

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The mass influx of Hispanic immigration hasn't changed much, besides the hysteria of racists.


Except the demographics of the nation.

You have literally just stated that the biggest effect of x... is x.

Which is another way of saying it hasn't changed much.
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Postby Jamjai » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:54 pm

God Kefka wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Who cares if whites have the dominant culture?

Why can't we allow more then one culture to exist?


it causes problems in California... like crime, trafficking, street wars and stuff. It just doesn't work well. And it threatens the white majority physically...

Whites should not be forced to become a minority in their own land you know?

native Americans actually lived in the land before other people came and united the land
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Postby Trollgaard » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:54 pm

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Possibly.


The mass influx of Hispanic immigration hasn't changed much, besides the hysteria of racists.


Well, seems as though its changing demogrophics, culture, voting habits, poverty rates, etc.

Might change the very foundation of the state...and eventually the nation. For good or ill, I don't know...I'm not really down with change, though.

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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:54 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
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So if someone built a life in America, had lots of friends here, made a lot of money, and was an immigrant you'd kick him out because of his race?

Tell me how that's not racist.

If what you proposed were to happen, I could say goodbye to half my friends.


You should have made better friends.


What the fuck?

I have Hispanic friends, I don't care about their race. They act no differently then you and me. I have Asian friends, they act no differently then you and me. Etc etc.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:54 pm

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National, not race. My issue is not with the fact their brown but the fact that they have a different country with different culture and a different language. I don't trust them or their loyalty to my country. Brown mexicans, white mexicans, black mexicans, asian mexicans, if that's even a thing, I don't like them and I don't want them here.


Why don't you like them? They're people, like you and me. They have families. They have jobs. They're usually nice.

If they moved their family all the way to this country, just to receive racism, don't you think they'd be pretty loyal to stay?


Because I've known them. I work with them, I've tried being friends with them, I've tried dating them. I've seen enough of them and see nothing redeeming in their culture.
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Postby Kiruri » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:55 pm

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You strike me as some sort of race supremacist, but don't get me wrong, not judging or anything....


National, not race. My issue is not with the fact their brown but the fact that they have a different country with different culture and a different language. I don't trust them or their loyalty to my country. Brown mexicans, white mexicans, black mexicans, asian mexicans, if that's even a thing, I don't like them and I don't want them here.


Mexican is not a synonym of Latin, Latino, Latin American, Hispanic, etc.... You may not trust their loyalty, doesn't mean they might be as loyal as you or any other American, even more so than their fellow American. Anyways, the reality's time's a changin', and thats a good thing. Especially considering no one can do anything about it :)
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:55 pm

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The mass influx of Hispanic immigration hasn't changed much, besides the hysteria of racists.


Except the demographics of the nation.


That means absolutely nothing.

A statistic on ethnicity doesn't change much.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:55 pm

Kiruri wrote:
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National, not race. My issue is not with the fact their brown but the fact that they have a different country with different culture and a different language. I don't trust them or their loyalty to my country. Brown mexicans, white mexicans, black mexicans, asian mexicans, if that's even a thing, I don't like them and I don't want them here.


Mexican is not a synonym of Latin, Latino, Latin American, Hispanic, etc.... You may not trust their loyalty, doesn't mean they might be as loyal as you or any other American, even more so than their fellow American. Anyways, the reality's time's a changin', and thats a good thing. Especially considering no one can do anything about it :)


They're not American. Quiting using smilies at me.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:56 pm

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Why don't you like them? They're people, like you and me. They have families. They have jobs. They're usually nice.

If they moved their family all the way to this country, just to receive racism, don't you think they'd be pretty loyal to stay?


Because I've known them. I work with them, I've tried being friends with them, I've tried dating them. I've seen enough of them and see nothing redeeming in their culture.


Then don't hang out with them, if you're that phobic of them.
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Postby God Kefka » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:56 pm

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it causes problems in California... like crime, trafficking, street wars and stuff. It just doesn't work well. And it threatens the white majority physically...

Whites should not be forced to become a minority in their own land you know?

native Americans actually lived in the land before other people came and united the land


They were never a majority as citizens of the United States of America... so I don't see their relevance.
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Postby Kiruri » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:56 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Why don't you like them? They're people, like you and me. They have families. They have jobs. They're usually nice.

If they moved their family all the way to this country, just to receive racism, don't you think they'd be pretty loyal to stay?


Because I've known them. I work with them, I've tried being friends with them, I've tried dating them. I've seen enough of them and see nothing redeeming in their culture.


Oh please... don't be so narrow minded, you can't claim to know a culture by just meeting a few people. Plus, you seem to mistakenly confuse Mexican (which is as diverse as American) with Latin and hispanic...
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:57 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
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Mexican is not a synonym of Latin, Latino, Latin American, Hispanic, etc.... You may not trust their loyalty, doesn't mean they might be as loyal as you or any other American, even more so than their fellow American. Anyways, the reality's time's a changin', and thats a good thing. Especially considering no one can do anything about it :)


They're not American. Quiting using smilies at me.


They're citizens of the US. Therefore, they are Americans.

Kick me out of the country as well, I'm 15 percent Hispanic, because my grandma's family is from Mexico.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:57 pm

The Scientific States wrote:That means absolutely nothing.

A statistic on ethnicity doesn't change much.


Then why do we even bother to keep track of it?
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:57 pm

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The Scientific States wrote:That means absolutely nothing.

A statistic on ethnicity doesn't change much.


Then why do we even bother to keep track of it?


I don't know. It's a waste of time if you ask me.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:57 pm

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Because I've known them. I work with them, I've tried being friends with them, I've tried dating them. I've seen enough of them and see nothing redeeming in their culture.


Then don't hang out with them, if you're that phobic of them.


Phobia is irrational. I have a rational understanding of them, and just don't like them.
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The Scientific States wrote:I don't know. It's a waste of time if you ask me.


That's a fair point.
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Postby The Scientific States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:58 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Jamjai wrote:native Americans actually lived in the land before other people came and united the land


They were never a majority as citizens of the United States of America... so I don't see their relevance.


They weren't a majority because we murdered most of them.
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Postby Kiruri » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:58 pm

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Mexican is not a synonym of Latin, Latino, Latin American, Hispanic, etc.... You may not trust their loyalty, doesn't mean they might be as loyal as you or any other American, even more so than their fellow American. Anyways, the reality's time's a changin', and thats a good thing. Especially considering no one can do anything about it :)


They're not American. Quiting using smilies at me.


They are indeed american. If they were born on the American continent, then they indeed are american. In this case, if they were born in the US then they are American.
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Postby Blazedtown » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:58 pm

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They're not American. Quiting using smilies at me.


They're citizens of the US. Therefore, they are Americans.

Kick me out of the country as well, I'm 15 percent Hispanic, because my grandma's family is from Mexico.


Good riddance foreigner.
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