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Postby God Kefka » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:00 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Alvaria and Cagwenyn wrote:Anglos need to get laid more.

Anglos get laid plenty. The problem, if you're a racist, is that, for their own personal reasons, they aren't making enough babies with each other.


It's strongly correlated with education and income level I think...
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Postby Aelbica » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:01 pm

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Wolfmanne wrote:I'm brown and I consider myself as British as any British person. As a matter of fact, I'm probably more patriotic than the average British person. So what does it matter if more people have brown skin? People can be proud of their country no matter the colour of their skin. A Latino man is as American as an American in the US.

Besides, blonde, blue eyes and fair skinned? Yelch. Too pure for me. Brunette and brown eyes are nicer, no matter the skin colour.


But I just don't see how you can deny that the UK has always historically been a white-majority nation... and I just can't imagine you identifying with the British white settlers who were going out there and bringing glory to the empire in the old days...

And just on an empirical level, clearly the person who can trace his ancestry to the 1800s and whose family has always settled on English soil is more English than you? I mean on some level you must concede this right?

This is the same deal here in California. You can't just enter the country all of a sudden and automatically be as American as everyone else; especially when you enter illegally.


No, but if your children are born here then they're as American as everyone else.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:02 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I'm brown and I consider myself as British as any British person. As a matter of fact, I'm probably more patriotic than the average British person. So what does it matter if more people have brown skin? People can be proud of their country no matter the colour of their skin. A Latino man is as American as an American in the US.

Besides, blonde, blue eyes and fair skinned? Yelch. Too pure for me. Brunette and brown eyes are nicer, no matter the skin colour.

especially when you enter illegally.

Not all Latinos are illegal immigrants and not all illegal immigrants are Latino. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/politico-immigrants-latino_n_3142061.html
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:02 pm

Ifreann wrote:And from this you conclude that the governments of countries without a white majority are preventing white people from living in their country in numbers great enough to become a majority. Or in other words, you're making up bullshit to paint yourself as the victim of some global anti-white conspiracy.


Are you blind to what is happening around you? The majority White countries are becoming less White, while the majority non-White countries are staying the same. This is because most majority White countries have the misfortune of being too developed while the rest of the world isn't. I am not going to let my racial community continue to shrink and erode without a fuss.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:02 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Anglos get laid plenty. The problem, if you're a racist, is that, for their own personal reasons, they aren't making enough babies with each other.


It's strongly correlated with education and income level I think...


I would go into an in depth argument about how that is wrong in every way, but because of xkcd, I don't have to.

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Postby The Mathematical States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:03 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Anglos get laid plenty. The problem, if you're a racist, is that, for their own personal reasons, they aren't making enough babies with each other.


It's strongly correlated with education and income level I think...

By that logic, the optimal solution would be to get everyone as educated as possible. This can be done, albeit difficulty, but given that state of education (at least public) in the US, I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Postby God Kefka » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:03 pm

Aelbica wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
But I just don't see how you can deny that the UK has always historically been a white-majority nation... and I just can't imagine you identifying with the British white settlers who were going out there and bringing glory to the empire in the old days...

And just on an empirical level, clearly the person who can trace his ancestry to the 1800s and whose family has always settled on English soil is more English than you? I mean on some level you must concede this right?

This is the same deal here in California. You can't just enter the country all of a sudden and automatically be as American as everyone else; especially when you enter illegally.


No, but if your children are born here then they're as American as everyone else.


Some people can trace their ancestry further back. Also, doesn't it also depend on how you look?
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Postby Wolfmanne » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:03 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I'm brown and I consider myself as British as any British person. As a matter of fact, I'm probably more patriotic than the average British person. So what does it matter if more people have brown skin? People can be proud of their country no matter the colour of their skin. A Latino man is as American as an American in the US.

Besides, blonde, blue eyes and fair skinned? Yelch. Too pure for me. Brunette and brown eyes are nicer, no matter the skin colour.


But I just don't see how you can deny that the UK has always historically been a white-majority nation... and I just can't imagine you identifying with the British white settlers who were going out there and bringing glory to the empire in the old days...

And just on an empirical level, clearly the person who can trace his ancestry to the 1800s and whose family has always settled on English soil is more English than you? I mean on some level you must concede this right?

This is the same deal here in California. You can't just enter the country all of a sudden and automatically be as American as everyone else; especially when you enter illegally.

How dare you. I am as British as my next door neighbour. I hold citizenship, my Father has held citizenship, my Granddfather has held citizenship. My Granddad served in the Royal Navy and earned the right for my family and all descendants of it to call themselves British.

400 years ago British settlers in America called themselves 'American'. But what right did they have to it? What about the Natives there? The settlers called themselves American because they saw themselves as a part of the American nation (or a new American nation anyway, I'm not going to go on about how the said nation was forged through brutal, constant warfare with the Natives). When Italian Americans and Jews arrived during the various waves of 20th century immigration, perhaps not at first, but eventually through assimilation they call themselves American. To this day, I'm sure most Italian Americans, or descendants considering the amount of interbreeding, would consider themselves American.

The fact that I would raise arms and fight for my country is enough for me to consider myself British. Hell, not even that. The fact that I hold a British passport is enough for me to be British. No one is more British in the UK, whether you're Black, of Asian descent, with Irish ancestry or if you're half Maltese/Latino like me. Besides, Malta was a British colony from the 1800s.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:03 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Anglos get laid plenty. The problem, if you're a racist, is that, for their own personal reasons, they aren't making enough babies with each other.


It's strongly correlated with education and income level I think...

Humans are K-strategists. The more resources you give them the more they will invest those resources in a fewer number of offspring. Knowledge of effective birth control doesn't hurt either.

So again. Just collapse the economy of your preferred white nation, and watch the numbers rise. Or else elevate them brown people to first-world status, but somehow I'm thinking that won't play as well with you folk.
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Postby Divair » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:03 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And from this you conclude that the governments of countries without a white majority are preventing white people from living in their country in numbers great enough to become a majority. Or in other words, you're making up bullshit to paint yourself as the victim of some global anti-white conspiracy.


Are you blind to what is happening around you? The majority White countries are becoming less White, while the majority non-White countries are staying the same. This is because most majority White countries have the misfortune of being too developed while the rest of the world isn't. I am not going to let my racial community continue to shrink and erode without a fuss.

I struggle to give a fuck about the colour of anyone's skin. If one disappears, why should I give half a shit?

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Postby Divair » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:04 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Aelbica wrote:
No, but if your children are born here then they're as American as everyone else.


Some people can trace their ancestry further back. Also, doesn't it also depend on how you look?

No.

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Postby Aelbica » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:04 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Divair wrote:Sure, and the Irish replicated Ireland, and the Germans replicated Germany, and the Italians replicated Italy.


Or not. Because, y'know. Assimilation is a thing.


The Germans and the Irish spread out and made their assimilation much easier. They didn't concentrate in specific areas. The Italians did (but not to the extent as Mexicans are doing), and as a result Italian-American communities resemble Italy more than German and Irish American communities resemble Germany and Ireland. The Germans and Irish brought food and drink. The Italians did that, too, with the added bonus of the Mafia.


Yeah, but it's really hard to say that settling in specific areas is just because of ethnicity and, oh, not for other factors like housing discrimination.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:04 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And from this you conclude that the governments of countries without a white majority are preventing white people from living in their country in numbers great enough to become a majority. Or in other words, you're making up bullshit to paint yourself as the victim of some global anti-white conspiracy.


Are you blind to what is happening around you? The majority White countries are becoming less White, while the majority non-White countries are staying the same. This is because most majority White countries have the misfortune of being too developed while the rest of the world isn't. I am not going to let my racial community continue to shrink and erode without a fuss.

Yes... the misfortune.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:04 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Divair wrote:Sure, and the Irish replicated Ireland, and the Germans replicated Germany, and the Italians replicated Italy.


Or not. Because, y'know. Assimilation is a thing.


The Germans and the Irish spread out and made their assimilation much easier. They didn't concentrate in specific areas. The Italians did (but not to the extent as Mexicans are doing), and as a result Italian-American communities resemble Italy more than German and Irish American communities resemble Germany and Ireland. The Germans and Irish brought food and drink. The Italians did that, too, with the added bonus of the Mafia.

What makes you think Latinos won't spread out over time?
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Postby The Mathematical States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:04 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
It's strongly correlated with education and income level I think...


I would go into an in depth argument about how that is wrong in every way, but because of xkcd, I don't have to.

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Postby Jamjai » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:12 pm

Libertarian California wrote: The Germans and Irish brought food and drink. The Italians did that, too

that is what every ethic group does basically
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Postby The Mathematical States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:13 pm

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Libertarian California wrote: The Germans and Irish brought food and drink. The Italians did that, too

that is what every ethic group does basically

Mexican food is pretty awesome. 8)

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Postby Shofercia » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:25 pm

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Shofercia wrote:I'm not going to read beyond the first page, but for me it comes down to two issues:
Well, that is not how it is done anymore. Now, at least on a federal level, it goes like this.

Are you Latino? [Y/N]
If so, what ethnicity? ________________
What race do you identify with? blah blah.

Latino is an ethnicity, not a race. It is possible to be a Latino Asian for example... I should really do a factbook on this.


Fair point. But it's not acceptable in a census. You need the demographics to add up to 100%. Not 128.7%. Not 109.4%. I get that both parties are scrambling for the Hispanic Vote in California, but this is just ridiculous.


Aelbica wrote:Hispanic isn't a race, it's an ethnicity, there's a difference. There are White, Black, and Asian Hispanics just so you know.


Again, fair point. But you have to make sure that the numbers actually add up; otherwise the census loses much of its value. Is it too unreasonable to demand that a census adds up to 100 percent?


The Mathematical States wrote:Yeah, this was rather strange when I saw it too. I don't think you can group Latinos/Hispanics into one group though. They're not even genetically homogeneous (within a reasonable tolerance).


I agree, that's why I suggested Latin American and Mixed Race/Ethnicity as possible groups.
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Postby Kiruri » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:27 pm

The Mathematical States wrote:
Jamjai wrote:that is what every ethic group does basically

Mexican food is pretty awesome. 8)


Peruvian is better :p
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:28 pm

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The Mathematical States wrote:Mexican food is pretty awesome. 8)


Peruvian is better :p


Panamanian is best. :p
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:31 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Anglos get laid plenty. The problem, if you're a racist, is that, for their own personal reasons, they aren't making enough babies with each other.


It's strongly correlated with education and income level I think...

I can easily believe that you would think something like that.


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Ifreann wrote:And from this you conclude that the governments of countries without a white majority are preventing white people from living in their country in numbers great enough to become a majority. Or in other words, you're making up bullshit to paint yourself as the victim of some global anti-white conspiracy.


Are you blind to what is happening around you? The majority White countries are becoming less White, while the majority non-White countries are staying the same. This is because...

When you can finish that sentence with something that amounts to white people no longer being able to choose where they live or who they have children with, then I will consider giving a shit about the plight of the white race.

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Postby Kiruri » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:40 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
Kiruri wrote:
Peruvian is better :p


Panamanian is best. :p


Bleh! Its as bland as costa rican
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:41 pm

Kiruri wrote:
Uieurnthlaal wrote:
Panamanian is best. :p


Bleh! Its as bland as costa rican


Have you tried Panamanian sancocho? It is unrivaled throughout latin america.
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Postby Lydenburg » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:49 pm

How is this news...?

I assumed that Hispanic Americans already outnumber other ethnic groups in California. The proximity to Mexico and the constant flow of new immigrants from all over the world seeking jobs in major urban centres would seem to suggest so.

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Postby Kiruri » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:49 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
Kiruri wrote:
Bleh! Its as bland as costa rican


Have you tried Panamanian sancocho? It is unrivaled throughout latin america.


To each their own, Mister ;) jk btw
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