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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:36 pm

Baader-Meinhof Gruppe wrote:Okay? The only race is human. Even if races were decided by skin colour Latino/Hispanic is not even a race. It's a mix. So they should have to pick mixed when they do a census. "But that's racist!!!!" No, it's really not. You see, most "Latinos" are meztiso which means they are mixed between natives and white. That's not a race. If I marry a "Hispanic" my kid is mixed. But if a white marries a native it's "Hispanic"? No. Stop that crap. Either way good for CA, now just abolish that border as it is a waste of money and it hinders free trade.

This^. The idea that Caucasians and Latinos/Hispanics are completely different races is not true. Many have white blood, if that's what matters to some people.
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Postby The Mathematical States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:37 pm

Libertarian California wrote:Why is this a good thing?

Also, please don't say "United Statian." It's the stupidest word in history.

You could say "American", but that could also apply to anyone living on this hemisphere of the world. :meh:

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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:37 pm

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Ifreann wrote:It's good that people are allowed to live wherever they want without anyone in authority interfering to maintain the majority status of white people.


That is horrible.

Why do white people have an inherent right to be the majority? The United States was founded on civic nationalism.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:38 pm

Ifreann wrote:It's good that people are allowed to live wherever they want without anyone in authority interfering to maintain the majority status of white people.


So you are saying it is fine for non-Whites to maintain majorities in their own countries but not so for Whites?
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Postby Estado Paulista » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:38 pm

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Libertarian California wrote:Why is this a good thing?

Also, please don't say "United Statian." It's the stupidest word in history.

You could say "American", but that could also apply to anyone living on this hemisphere of the world. :meh:


Everyone knows that by American, a person means "something/someone from the US".
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Postby The Mathematical States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:38 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Baader-Meinhof Gruppe wrote:Okay? The only race is human. Even if races were decided by skin colour Latino/Hispanic is not even a race. It's a mix. So they should have to pick mixed when they do a census. "But that's racist!!!!" No, it's really not. You see, most "Latinos" are meztiso which means they are mixed between natives and white. That's not a race. If I marry a "Hispanic" my kid is mixed. But if a white marries a native it's "Hispanic"? No. Stop that crap. Either way good for CA, now just abolish that border as it is a waste of money and it hinders free trade.

This^. The idea that Caucasians and Latinos/Hispanics are completely different races is not true. Many have white blood, if that's what matters to some people.

In fact, most Latinos/Hispanics are half-white to begin with. And a lot of their culture is derived from Spain. So I don't see what the big deal is here.

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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:39 pm

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Ifreann wrote:It's good that people are allowed to live wherever they want without anyone in authority interfering to maintain the majority status of white people.


So you are saying it is fine for non-Whites to maintain majorities in their own countries but not so for Whites?

Ifreann didn't say that white people shouldn't be able to move to non-white countries. You're bringing up a red herring.
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Postby Vulpae » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:39 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Skeckoa wrote:and the evils of what the Anglos did to the Californios following the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo will be reprimanded.


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Nearest I can tell aside from the usual Racial tensions of the time. Which flared up a few times during the first six years, Californios were treated pretty well by the standards of the time.
There was the "greaser" law which was used by police to arrest them unjustly, but all that bias and racism evaporated after the civil war, and the tons of settlers of all ethnic groups (the image is of white folk, but it was not just angelos, irish, a lot of germans, african americans too...) went west.

There's still a lot of racial tension in some areas, but that seems largely involved in the gang scene.

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Postby Divair » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:40 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's good that people are allowed to live wherever they want without anyone in authority interfering to maintain the majority status of white people.


So you are saying it is fine for non-Whites to maintain majorities in their own countries but not so for Whites?

No.

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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:40 pm

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Geilinor wrote:This^. The idea that Caucasians and Latinos/Hispanics are completely different races is not true. Many have white blood, if that's what matters to some people.

In fact, most Latinos/Hispanics are half-white to begin with. And a lot of their culture is derived from Spain. So I don't see what the big deal is here.

It feels like we're back to opposition to non Anglo-Saxon Protestants in the 19th century.
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Postby Skeckoa » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:40 pm

God Kefka wrote:This is bad... I expect the crime rate in things like human and drugs trafficking could go up... and it just isn't right. California is a part of the United States, it should stay predominantly white. Ah well... not much they can do about it (or rather, American leaders don't have the guts to do what is truly necessary; they've always been too soft on this immigration issue). I guess we will just have to accept it...
Perhaps. Sadly, Mexican cartels and latino gangs such as the MS 13 are the prime actors in the human trafficking scene. It won't go up overnight, but it has risen. I feel like there are other ways to combat those such as better law enforcement in Mexico, as well as the legalization of drugs here. But for the time being, human trafficking is always something to look out for. Also, from what I can get bout immigration, it just seems like something that remains better unsolved. (For politicians of course, for immigrants and low wage workers, hell nah)
Geilinor wrote:This^. The idea that Caucasians and Latinos/Hispanics are completely different races is not true. Many have white blood, if that's what matters to some people.
Actually, the question of whether the Mexicans were White or Indian is a question that was huge in how the USA justified its war with Mexico. I could really write another OP on it if I cared to.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:41 pm

Well, I'm happy that us Latinos are becoming a larger group, being half Latino myself. Don't really see how it's a big deal, but... great?
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Postby God Kefka » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:41 pm

It appears that with every passing day the white is becoming more and more of an endangered species in his own homelands... this is terrible...

what will happen to the beautiful fair-skinned bright-eyed girls in the future?

My grandson needs to get married too you know...

This California thing... is it just the beginning (*looks at Europe and shudders)?
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Postby Divair » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:42 pm

God Kefka wrote:It appears that with every passing day the white is becoming more and more of an endangered species in his own homelands... this is terrible...

what will happen to the beautiful pale-skinned bright-eyed girls in the future?

My grandson needs to get married too you know...

This California thing... is it just the beginning (*looks at Europe and shudders)?

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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:42 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It's good that people are allowed to live wherever they want without anyone in authority interfering to maintain the majority status of white people.


So you are saying it is fine for non-Whites to maintain majorities in their own countries but not so for Whites?

No. I'm pretty sure no one is saying that.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:42 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
God Kefka wrote:This is bad... I expect the crime rate in things like human and drugs trafficking could go up... and it just isn't right. California is a part of the United States, it should stay predominantly white. Ah well... not much they can do about it (or rather, American leaders don't have the guts to do what is truly necessary; they've always been too soft on this immigration issue). I guess we will just have to accept it...
I feel like there are other ways to combat those such as better law enforcement in Mexico, as well as the legalization of drugs here.

Exactly. There are ways to solve the problem of drug trafficking, yet Kefka purposefully chooses to ignore them.
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Postby Aelbica » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:42 pm

The Mathematical States wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:Why is this a good thing?

Also, please don't say "United Statian." It's the stupidest word in history.

You could say "American", but that could also apply to anyone living on this hemisphere of the world. :meh:


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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:42 pm

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That is horrible.

Why do white people have an inherent right to be the majority? The United States was founded on civic nationalism.


All people have the inherent right to be a majority in their own land. This has been white country since the 1840s, much longer than it was ever Mexican land (a mere 27 years).

The United States was founded by Anglo-Saxons with bits of Dutch, Scots-Irish, and German. You could argue that it was civic nationalism that brought these separate ethnic groups together to become American. But now, it's for the best consider white Americans as a standalone group than break them down into Irish, English, and German.
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Postby The Mathematical States » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:43 pm

Geilinor wrote:
The Mathematical States wrote:In fact, most Latinos/Hispanics are half-white to begin with. And a lot of their culture is derived from Spain. So I don't see what the big deal is here.

It feels like we're back to opposition to non Anglo-Saxon Protestants in the 19th century.

True, but still, a lot of people from all walks of life don't really care. In fact, most are just trying to live their lives. Most of this stuff is simply too detached from their lived to have any real significance.

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:43 pm

The Mathematical States wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:Why is this a good thing?

Also, please don't say "United Statian." It's the stupidest word in history.

You could say "American", but that could also apply to anyone living on this hemisphere of the world. :meh:


Not really.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:43 pm

God Kefka wrote:It appears that with every passing day the white is becoming more and more of an endangered species in his own homelands... this is terrible...

what will happen to the beautiful fair-skinned bright-eyed girls in the future?

My grandson needs to get married too you know...

This California thing... is it just the beginning (*looks at Europe and shudders)?

By homeland you mean... California?
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Postby Jamjai » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:43 pm

The Mathematical States wrote:In fact, most Latinos/Hispanics are half-white to begin with. And a lot of their culture is derived from Spain. So I don't see what the big deal is here.

One of my classmate is Mexican but looks half-white
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Postby Divair » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:43 pm

Libertarian California wrote:This has been white country since the 1840s, much longer than it was ever Mexican land (a mere 27 years).

And?

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Postby God Kefka » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:44 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
God Kefka wrote:This is bad... I expect the crime rate in things like human and drugs trafficking could go up... and it just isn't right. California is a part of the United States, it should stay predominantly white. Ah well... not much they can do about it (or rather, American leaders don't have the guts to do what is truly necessary; they've always been too soft on this immigration issue). I guess we will just have to accept it...
Perhaps. Sadly, Mexican cartels and latino gangs such as the MS 13 are the prime actors in the human trafficking scene. It won't go up overnight, but it has risen. I feel like there are other ways to combat those such as better law enforcement in Mexico, as well as the legalization of drugs here. But for the time being, human trafficking is always something to look out for. Also, from what I can get bout immigration, it just seems like something that remains better unsolved. (For politicians of course, for immigrants and low wage workers, hell nah)


but Mexico is too corrupt to be reformed in the short run I think...

I mean look at the crime and kidnapping rates there...
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:44 pm

God Kefka wrote:what will happen to the beautiful fair-skinned bright-eyed girls in the future?

That's your concern in this world? "Where are my girls, I have a right to girls!" :p
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