time for zionists to die?

by **Aethrys** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:11 am

Telsia wrote:Atleast the israeli's allow freedom of religion, if a christian priest tries to convert a muslim can either look forward to life in prisonment or death depending where in the middle east he's in.

I'm not kidding, most of those countries have laws against it! Disgusting!

It's quite disgusting that these three cults continue to hold such sway over the human race, I agree.

by **Das-husland** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:11 am

Well, compared to a terrorist organisation that was elected by the militants like you...

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:13 am

Das-husland wrote:Well, compared to a terrorist organisation that was elected by the militants like you...

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I was voting member of Palestine.

by **Neo Philippine Empire** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:15 am

This thread is prone to be closed by mods

by **Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:16 am

Greater-London wrote:I'm so ambivalent toward Israel. On the one hand I find the treatment of the Palestinian people, illegal settlements and attacks on civilians revolting. On the other I see the only functioning democracy in the region, who aren't recognized by most of their neighbors with some threatening to nuke them of the face of the earth. I simply don't think the way the Israeli government behaves is any different to most liberal democracies in that situation.

It'd be far less vicious if it wasn't an ethnoreligious state.

And no, before someone else asks, no, people don't have "right" to their own state, such a concept is ludicrous.

Quite frankly, I would like to see solely two states for the Levantine region, Israel and Jordan, with Jordan being a republic in union with the West Bank, Gaza and the Sinai that would have the help of the West to fight groups like the Hamas, and with Israel having a multicultural, multinational state in conjunction with Lebanon and Syria. But of course neither Muslim pride nor Arab nationalism will let it happen even if Israelis really became the innocent poor little angels people often paint them to be in exchange for a lot of things, including aside obvious resources important to them and stability and looking fine to the international community and even neighbor countries, a future frontier with the EU. Eh.

by **Greater-London** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:16 am

Efriait wrote:Israel is corrupt with high inequality, and democracy is a buzzword. Democracy is not the be-all end-all.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/07/40235- ... democrazy/

Yet it is still a functioning democracy - far more so than other states in the region, it also enjoys greater political and social stability. Democracy of course is not the be-all and end-all but its INCREDIBLY important, I also reject the idea that its innately a"buzzword" when it definately isn't. All the article does is make several incorrect assumptions about what democracy and freedom means suggesting that it equates with a neo-liberal pro-American agenda which isn't true.

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:17 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:And no, before someone else asks, no, people don't have "right" to their own state, such a concept is ludicrous.

genocidal kurdistan

by **Limborg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:19 am

Problem is that the conflict has been going on for way to long...
Israel had a chance to start a peace process, but they chose to go the hard way (mostly becouse of the US)

The only chance for peace over there is that Israel removes all of its settlements, and that Palestine gets rid of all those happy rocket firing hippies.

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:19 am

Greater-London wrote:Yet it is still a functioning democracy - far more so than other states in the region, it also enjoys greater political and social stability.

I really don't care. Not an excuse for their actions.

Greater-London wrote:Democracy of course is not the be-all and end-all but its INCREDIBLY important

Not to me, I could care less.

by **Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:20 am

Efriait wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:And no, before someone else asks, no, people don't have "right" to their own state, such a concept is ludicrous.

genocidal kurdistan

I'm talking about Jews that have plenty of the developed world and the elites of the best third world countries ever to exist, no need for nationalism among them.

But yeah, the Kurdistan question is troubling. To be frank, I'd like the whole area to be an autonomous region of Turkey at least until it becomes more developed. And people often present a view of Kurdistan not much in line with how things actually work there, like Turks are ebul racists and genocidal and whatnot, being that they have a pretty fine life, especially in comparison with the standards of the Middle East.

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:23 am

Turkey isn't the only area containing communities or Kurds.

by **Greater-London** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:26 am

Efriait wrote:I really don't care. Not an excuse for their actions

I never said it did. It just explains my (and I think most peoples) ambivalence towards Israel. I hope its why the receive so much Western support.

Efriait wrote:Not to me, I could care less.

Thats absoloutley fine, your wrong and most people disagree with you.

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:29 am

Greater-London wrote:I never said it did. It just explains my (and I think most peoples) ambivalence towards Israel. I hope its why the receive so much Western support.

It receives support for the same reasons that East-India company did. I will ask you kindly to stop posting in this thread.

by **Jetan** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:30 am

Efriait wrote:
Greater-London wrote:I never said it did. It just explains my (and I think most peoples) ambivalence towards Israel. I hope its why the receive so much Western support.

It receives support for the same reasons that East-India company did. I will ask you kindly to stop posting in this thread.

No thread ownership in General.

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:31 am

Jetan wrote:No thread ownership in General.

I don't recall asking you a god damn thing.

by **Greater-London** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:33 am

Efriait wrote:It receives support for the same reasons that East-India company did. I will ask you kindly to stop posting in this thread.

Why can't I post in this thread? because I have an opinion that's different to yours? & no it doesn't it's not a Western colony in middle-east if you think that's the case then one again your wrong.

by **Jetan** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:33 am

Efriait wrote:
Jetan wrote:No thread ownership in General.

I don't recall asking you a god damn thing.

Wholly irrelevant. You have no power to decide who can or cannot post in the thread.

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:34 am

Greater-London wrote:because I have an opinion that's different to yours?

No, not at all.

by **Limborg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:35 am

Efriait wrote:
Jetan wrote:Wholly irrelevant. You have no power to decide who can or cannot post in the thread.

go and fuck your mother's behind
Greater-London wrote:because I have an opinion that's different to yours?

You have no opinion, you are demoted to the rank of garbage.

by **Greater-London** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:37 am

Efriait wrote:You have no opinion, you are demoted to the rank of garbage.

I know your not supposed to feed troll's (which I hope you are) but how can you say I have no opinion? how can you say that I'm garbage? your just acting like a child. If you can't tell me why I need to stop posting in this thread then you have an opinion but no argument to back it up - which is incredibly annoying

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:38 am

Greater-London wrote:how can you say that I'm garbage?

I never said that, Limborg said that.

by **Limborg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:39 am

Efriait wrote:
Greater-London wrote:how can you say that I'm garbage?

I never said that, Limborg said that.

Yeah...Right... :palm:

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:40 am

Limborg wrote:Yeah...Right...

Precisely.

by **Greater-London** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:40 am

Efriait wrote:
Greater-London wrote:how can you say that I'm garbage?

I never said that, Limborg said that.

They didn't, well if they did they must have edited to make it look like you did, which is weird of them.

by **Efriait** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:41 am

Greater-London wrote:weird of them.

I know exactly what you mean.

time for zionists to die?

is it time for zionists to die?

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