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is it time for zionists to die?

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time for zionists to die?

Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:47 am

http://blogs.mediapart.fr/blog/stephane ... -en-france
Les soubresauts de "l’affaire Dieudonné" ont mis en lumière la puissance du lobby pro-israélien au sein de l’État français (voir ici l’analyse de Jacob Cohen). Revirement de jurisprudence au Conseil d’État décidé dans l’urgence et sous la pression de la LICRA (lire ici), déploiements massifs de forces de police autour des salles de spectacles, harcèlement fiscal et judiciaire, fermeture programmée de sa chaîne youtube et éviction prochaine de son théâtre, sans parler de la cabale politico-médiatique à son encontre (voir ici), rien n’aura été épargné à Dieudonné, coupable de dissidence antisioniste.

Cette campagne a bénéficié de la puissance de feu des Appareils Idéologiques d’État, CRIF et LICRA (voir ici mon billet sur cette question) et des media officiels mais également de forces supplétives, notamment la Ligue de Défense Juive. Terrorisant, frappant, insultant les spectateurs de Dieudonné ainsi que des passants lors de véritables expéditions punitives devant le théâtre de la main d’or – faut-il le préciser, sans que les forces de police mobilisées pour l’occasion ne bougent le petit doigt (voir ici) – cette milice paramilitaire a déjà un lourd passé derrière elle, parsemé de violences et d’agressions en tout genre.
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Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:54 am

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/01/19 ... aza-siege/
Hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists have demonstrated outside the Israeli embassy in London, condemning Tel Aviv’s ongoing blockade and attacks on the Gaza Strip.

According to reports, more than 500 protesters voiced their outrage in the protest, which was called by Palestine Solidarity Campaign on Sunday.

Waving placards and chanting slogans like “Free Free Palestine,” “End the siege of Gaza,” and “We are all Palestinians,” the protesters condemned Israeli war crimes in the territory, including putting children in solitary confinement.

Demonstrators also called on the international community, including the British government, to pressure Israel to lift the siege on Gaza.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:19 am

The pro-Israeli lobby is really sick sometimes and has wide media and governmental support. News at 11.
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Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:22 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:The pro-Israeli lobby is really sick sometimes and has wide media and governmental support. News at 11.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:27 am

Efriait wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:The pro-Israeli lobby is really sick sometimes and has wide media and governmental support. News at 11.

we should exchange yaoi

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Postby Telsia » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:36 am

Atleast the israeli's allow freedom of religion, if a christian priest tries to convert a muslim can either look forward to life in prisonment or death depending where in the middle east he's in.

I'm not kidding, most of those countries have laws against it! Disgusting! >:(
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:40 am

Telsia wrote:Atleast the israeli's allow freedom of religion, if a christian priest tries to convert a muslim can either look forward to life in prisonment or death depending where in the middle east he's in.

I'm not kidding, most of those countries have laws against it! Disgusting! >:(

Well yes, but if "their country, their rules" applies to excuse Israel's human and civil rights violations, it also excuses them, right? :roll:
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Postby Neo Philippine Empire » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:40 am

Use English :palm:
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Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:42 am

Telsia wrote:Atleast the israeli's allow freedom of religion, if a christian priest tries to convert a muslim can either look forward to life in prisonment or death depending where in the middle east he's in.

Good for them.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:43 am

Neo Philippine Empire wrote:Use English :palm:

C'mon, French isn't that hard if you know English plus Spanish/Portuguese.
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:46 am

What kind of thread is this. :meh:

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Postby Hyfling » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:47 am

Neo Philippine Empire wrote:Use English :palm:


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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:47 am

At what point so far in this thread as anyone pointed out that the OP's sources are bullshit and that this thread is designed to illicit a negative response from people?
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Postby Das-husland » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:48 am

So its right for palestine to fire unguided missiles into civilian areas deliberately, to torture civilians and soldiers alike, and to attempt assassinations on israeli leaders? If you want to accuse the culprits, accuse the USA.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:48 am

Costa Fierro wrote:At what point so far in this thread as anyone pointed out that the OP's sources are bullshit and that this thread is designed to illicit a negative response from people?

Like most of his last ones?
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Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:48 am

Costa Fierro wrote: the OP's sources are bullshit

I did not know, I do not read French.

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Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:49 am

Das-husland wrote:So its right for palestine to fire unguided missiles into civilian areas deliberately

Those are Israeli false flags, but yes.

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Postby Neo Philippine Empire » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:51 am

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The upheavals of the " Dieudonné case " highlighted the power of the pro-Israel lobby in the French State (see here the analysis of Jacob Cohen) . Departure from precedent to the State Council decided in a hurry and under pressure from LICRA ( read here ) , massive deployment of police forces around the halls, tax and judicial harassment planned closure of its youtube channel and Eviction next to the theater , not to mention the political and media cabal against him (see here ), nothing has been spared Dieudonné , guilty of dissent Zionist .

The campaign received the firepower of Ideological State Apparatuses , CRIF and LICRA (see here my post on this issue ) and official media but also auxiliary forces , including the Jewish Defense League . Terrorizing , hitting , insulting spectators and passers Dieudonné at real punitive expeditions to the theater of the golden hand - it must be clear , without police forces mobilized for the occasion do not move a finger (see here) - this paramilitary militia already has a long history behind it , dotted with violence and abuse of all kinds.
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Postby Neo Philippine Empire » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:52 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Neo Philippine Empire wrote:Use English :palm:

C'mon, French isn't that hard if you know English plus Spanish/Portuguese.

I know Spanish but French is a no no
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Postby Das-husland » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:00 am

Efriait wrote:
Das-husland wrote:So its right for palestine to fire unguided missiles into civilian areas deliberately

Those are Israeli false flags, but yes.


Essentially, thats a terrorist activity and is responded to as such. Palestine is a terrorist organisation. If a government chooses to ignore militant attacks on a civilian populace, thats why you get reprisals and blockading, because israel is trying to safeguard it's own borders due to PLO attacks in the past.

It's nothing against religion. Its merely simply about land.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:01 am

Neo Philippine Empire wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:C'mon, French isn't that hard if you know English plus Spanish/Portuguese.

I know Spanish but French is a no no

Ah, c'mon, it's just like a fancy upper class Portuguese who had a stroke and mixes a lot of English into it, nothing outer-worldly.
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Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:02 am

Das-husland wrote:Palestine is a terrorist organisation.

So is Israel, but Palestine doesn't control the U.S. military, congress etc.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:04 am

Das-husland wrote:It's nothing against religion. Its merely simply about land.

That's why I say fuck no both to Jewish settlements in the West Bank and to an independent Palestinian state.
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Postby Greater-London » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:06 am

I'm so ambivalent toward Israel. On the one hand I find the treatment of the Palestinian people, illegal settlements and attacks on civilians revolting. On the other I see the only functioning democracy in the region, who aren't recognized by most of their neighbors with some threatening to nuke them of the face of the earth. I simply don't think the way the Israeli government behaves is any different to most liberal democracies in that situation.

Ideally you would have a two state solution with the 1948 borders that were quite fair to both parties. Jerusalem becomes a separate city state administrated by the UN and defended by forces from the Security Council whilst allowing the Israeli and Palestinian parliaments to be their which would be soverign territory of the respected nations.
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Postby Efriait » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:10 am

Greater-London wrote:On the other I see the only functioning democracy in the region

Israel is corrupt with high inequality, and democracy is a buzzword. Democracy is not the be-all end-all.
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