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Patistan
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Postby Patistan » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:25 am

Cyllea wrote:So, I took an hour or so and created this map:

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Fundamentally, its a map of nations and territorial resolutions that I support completely. If you have any questions as to why I support a certain independence movement or other territorial change, feel free to ask. What does NSG think? Support some? All? None?

Alaska gains independence from USA
Hawaii gains independence from USA
Texas gains independence from USA
California gains independence from USA
Vermont gains independence from USA
Puerto Rico gains independence from USA
Cascadia gains independence from USA and Canada
Quebec gains independence from Canada
Chiapas gains independence from Mexico
UK dissolves. Scotland, England and Wales gain independence, North Ireland unifies with The Republic of Ireland
Belgium dissolves, Flanders and Wallonia gain independence
Kosovo becomes part of Albania
Moldova dissolves. Gagauzia and Transninstria ceded to Ukraine, rest is ceded to Romania
Catalonia gains independence from Spain
Corsica gains independence from France
Sicily gains independence from Italy
Sardinia gains independence from Italy
Liechtenstein becomes part of Switzerland
San Marino becomes part of Italy
Monaco becomes part of France
Andorra becomes part either Catalonia or France
Kaliningrad/Prussia gains independence from Russia
South Ossetia gains full independence from Georgia
Abkhazia gains full independence from Georgia
Islamist majority area in Russia secedes. Unsure how different nations would form.
Inner Mongolia gains independence from China, Unsure if it should be ceded to Mongolia or remain independent
Korea unifies
Tibet gains independence from China
East Turkestan gains independence from China
People's Republic of China collapses. Republic of China takes control
Balochistan gains independence from Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan
Jammu and Kashmir gains independence from Pakistan and India
Southern Thailand is ceded to Malaysia
West Papua gains independence from Indonesia
Palestine gains full recognition as independent
Kurdistan gains independence from Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq
Yemen dissolves. North Yemen and South Yemen gain independence
Darfur gains independence from Sudan
Kurdufan gains independence from Sudan
Azawad gains independence from Mali
Sahrawi gains independence from Morocco
Somaliland gains full independence from Somalia
Puntland gains independence from Somalia
Katanga gains independence from DR Congo
Kivu gains independence from DR Congo
Bas-Congo gains independence from DR Congo
Casamance gains independence from Senegal
Cabinda gains independence from Angola
New Caledonia gains independence from France
French Guiana gains independence from France



Balochistan is not even strong enough to get Independence
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United Prefectures of Appia
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Postby United Prefectures of Appia » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:10 am

Skeckoa wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:Here's an ideal map:

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And then you would not hear the end of it. Pharmaceutical drug market takes big hit. and the more likely
STATE CRASHES INTO CUBA. CASTRO'S PREDICTIONS ARE RIGHT. FLORIDIAN CUBANS FEEL AKWARD.

Not that I would disagree with such a proposal.

Well no kidding, Bobbitizing Florida who's shape always looked like it was pissing on Cuba. I'm pretty sure awkwardness is expected.
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The Victorian Empire
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Postby The Victorian Empire » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:42 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:
So you would break up the US as well?

No, why should I?


Because we ethnically cleansed North America of several dozen Native American tribes? You know, if you think Russia is the only country who has oppressed and murdered countless innocent people, that just shows to stand how short sighted you are.

By your reasoning, Mongolia, America, Spain, France, Britain, the Netherlands, Italy, Turkey, Germany, Poland, Austria, Japan, and Iran all deserve the same fate.

And just so you know, Swiss isn't a ethnicity at all, it's a confederation of ethnicities into one.
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Pravengria
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Postby Pravengria » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:27 am

Islamist majority area in Russia secedes. Unsure how different nations would form.

^I would say alright, but considering the track record of certain Chechen separatists, this could only further de-stabilize the area. Some of that also comes from my own bias however.

Also, what about the Basque Country?

Also perfectly happy with South Ossetia, and Abkhazia becoming independent from Georgia, well atleast globally recognized as separate entities.
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Gyrenaica
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Postby Gyrenaica » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:37 pm

If this came true, I would take over Ontario, Quebec, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, New York, and Idaho of USA. I'd also take all of UK; Sicily and Sardinia of Italy; and all of what was formerly baltics, yugoslavia, Ottoman Empire, and Tasmania of Australia. That would form my rp country( Gyrenaica )

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New North Aqmuland
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Postby New North Aqmuland » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:50 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:If this came true, I would take over Ontario, Quebec, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, New York, and Idaho of USA. I'd also take all of UK; Sicily and Sardinia of Italy; and all of what was formerly baltics, yugoslavia, Ottoman Empire, and Tasmania of Australia. That would form my rp country( Gyrenaica )

No. This cannot happen. I refuse to live with Wisiowagans. Or Idahoans, for that matter.
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United Kingdom of Poland
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:07 pm

New North Aqmuland wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:If this came true, I would take over Ontario, Quebec, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, New York, and Idaho of USA. I'd also take all of UK; Sicily and Sardinia of Italy; and all of what was formerly baltics, yugoslavia, Ottoman Empire, and Tasmania of Australia. That would form my rp country( Gyrenaica )

No. This cannot happen. I refuse to live with Wisiowagans. Or Idahoans, for that matter.

not to mention NY would never fall.

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Postby Gyrenaica » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:13 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
New North Aqmuland wrote:No. This cannot happen. I refuse to live with Wisiowagans. Or Idahoans, for that matter.

not to mention NY would never fall.

Oh, but they did. I pummeled them with my navy. My power index is 0005.

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Postby Sri Tschow » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:48 pm

I think the only one I completely hands down support is Tibet. Everything else is... sketchy.
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Postby New North Aqmuland » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:55 pm

Sri Tschow wrote:I think the only one I completely hands down support is Tibet. Everything else is... sketchy.

I don't like the reabsorption of Kosovo into Albania. I think they should be independent. Otherwise, it is mostly the thought of all the cool new flags that are the only reasons I would support those changes, except for Tibet, who should be independent.
Call me NNA or David, whichever you prefer. I'm an 18 year old freshman at Pepperdine University in Malibu, California, planning to major in international relations and minor in Spanish and math. I love music, math, sports, video games, and trivia.
The Democratic States of New North Aqmuland
Numquam mentiri, numquam amittere.
Capital: Anchoring
Population: 1,671,948,317
National Animal: Eagle
Colors: Blue and Gold
Factbook
Soccer: 3.66pts (143rd)
Football: 13.98 pts (14th)

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:13 pm

Korintar wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Well, quite simply, there is no Mexico. Just the Sonoran Sea.

America and Canada are their own continent.


One of the mods would NOT like that world due to the serious taco shortage it would experience *nods*

I'm looking at Lunatic Goofballs...


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Postby Shnercropolis » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:56 pm

I don't think anyone in California, Oregon, or Washington really want to seceed from the union.
it is my firm belief that I should never have to justify my beliefs.

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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:29 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:I don't think anyone in California, Oregon, or Washington really want to seceed from the union.

Neither does British Columbia.
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Skeckoa
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Postby Skeckoa » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:14 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:I don't think anyone in California, Oregon, or Washington really want to seceed from the union.
There is always crazy people like me... But you know. It is not much that we want to leave... but I just want to be away from Texas
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:59 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:I don't think anyone in California, Oregon, or Washington really want to seceed from the union.
There is always crazy people like me... But you know. It is not much that we want to leave... but I just want to be away from Texas

Nowhere but the Midwest should leave with this argument.

By doing so, you will make Texas stronger and thus a trouble for other people.
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:09 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:not to mention NY would never fall.

Oh, but they did. I pummeled them with my navy. My power index is 0005.

well looks like its time to re arm the Sullivans, Little Rock, and Croaker
not to mention my nation is partially based in western NY, and there is no way you would beat me.
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Postby Dracolich » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:13 pm

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Postby Todlichebujoku » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:23 pm

Fixed. (End of the list of modifications)

Cyllea wrote:So, I took an hour or so and created this map:

(Image)

Fundamentally, its a map of nations and territorial resolutions that I support completely. If you have any questions as to why I support a certain independence movement or other territorial change, feel free to ask. What does NSG think? Support some? All? None?

Alaska gains independence from USA
Hawaii gains independence from USA
Texas gains independence from USA
California gains independence from USA
Vermont gains independence from USA
Puerto Rico gains independence from USA
Cascadia gains independence from USA and Canada
Quebec gains independence from Canada
Chiapas gains independence from Mexico
UK dissolves. Scotland, England and Wales gain independence, North Ireland unifies with The Republic of Ireland
Belgium dissolves, Flanders and Wallonia gain independence
Kosovo becomes part of Albania
Moldova dissolves. Gagauzia and Transninstria ceded to Ukraine, rest is ceded to Romania
Catalonia gains independence from Spain
Corsica gains independence from France
Sicily gains independence from Italy
Sardinia gains independence from Italy
Liechtenstein becomes part of Switzerland
San Marino becomes part of Italy
Monaco becomes part of France
Andorra becomes part either Catalonia or France
Kaliningrad/Prussia gains independence from Russia
South Ossetia gains full independence from Georgia
Abkhazia gains full independence from Georgia
Islamist majority area in Russia secedes. Unsure how different nations would form.
Inner Mongolia gains independence from China, Unsure if it should be ceded to Mongolia or remain independent
Korea unifies
Tibet gains independence from China
East Turkestan gains independence from China
People's Republic of China collapses. Republic of China takes control
Balochistan gains independence from Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan
Jammu and Kashmir gains independence from Pakistan and India
Southern Thailand is ceded to Malaysia
West Papua gains independence from Indonesia
Palestine gains full recognition as independent
Kurdistan gains independence from Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq
Yemen dissolves. North Yemen and South Yemen gain independence
Darfur gains independence from Sudan
Kurdufan gains independence from Sudan
Azawad gains independence from Mali
Sahrawi gains independence from Morocco
Somaliland gains full independence from Somalia
Puntland gains independence from Somalia
Katanga gains independence from DR Congo
Kivu gains independence from DR Congo
Bas-Congo gains independence from DR Congo
Casamance gains independence from Senegal
Cabinda gains independence from Angola
New Caledonia gains independence from France
French Guiana gains independence from France
New Zealand becomes part of the Pacific
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:28 pm

Cyllea wrote:Casamance gains independence from Senegal
Cabinda gains independence from Angola

1. No, annexed to Guinea-Bissau makes more sense
2. WHAT?! No. Just no.
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Postby Skeckoa » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:42 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Skeckoa wrote: There is always crazy people like me... But you know. It is not much that we want to leave... but I just want to be away from Texas
Nowhere but the Midwest should leave with this argument. By doing so, you will make Texas stronger and thus a trouble for other people.
Not if California went as well :P Then we compete until all our In-N-Outs are dotted from El Paso to Galveston. Really though. California libre is unrealistic, but something that I would dig.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:13 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Nowhere but the Midwest should leave with this argument. By doing so, you will make Texas stronger and thus a trouble for other people.
Not if California went as well :P Then we compete until all our In-N-Outs are dotted from El Paso to Galveston. Really though. California libre is unrealistic, but something that I would dig.

My point is that California, Hawaii and WA+OR going would mean Republicans always winning.
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Postby Aboras » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:08 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Skeckoa wrote: Not if California went as well :P Then we compete until all our In-N-Outs are dotted from El Paso to Galveston. Really though. California libre is unrealistic, but something that I would dig.

My point is that California, Hawaii and WA+OR going would mean Republicans always winning.


Hawaii is only 4 Electoral Votes... I can't say that would be quite a big loss...
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Postby New North Aqmuland » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:36 am

Aboras wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:My point is that California, Hawaii and WA+OR going would mean Republicans always winning.


Hawaii is only 4 Electoral Votes... I can't say that would be quite a big loss...

California has 55 though.
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The Democratic States of New North Aqmuland
Numquam mentiri, numquam amittere.
Capital: Anchoring
Population: 1,671,948,317
National Animal: Eagle
Colors: Blue and Gold
Factbook
Soccer: 3.66pts (143rd)
Football: 13.98 pts (14th)

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Postby Aboras » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:37 am

New North Aqmuland wrote:
Aboras wrote:
Hawaii is only 4 Electoral Votes... I can't say that would be quite a big loss...

California has 55 though.


Yes...
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Postby Skeckoa » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:18 pm

New North Aqmuland wrote:
Aboras wrote:Hawaii is only 4 Electoral Votes... I can't say that would be quite a big loss...
California has 55 though.
As well as having the least amount of points per person :( It isn't cultural. Our oppression is legalized and established and institutionalized in the constitution. (Then again, our cultural hegemony sorta makes up for it).
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