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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:33 pm

Immoren wrote:

I guess Finland is The Reach then. :p

Obviously. :P
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Postby Jetan » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:32 pm

Immoren wrote:

I guess Finland is The Reach then. :p

Let's drive those blasted nords to the ocean!
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Postby Utceforp » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:45 pm


If Australia is Middle Earth, would that make New Zealand Valinor?
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:47 pm

Utceforp wrote:

If Australia is Middle Earth, would that make New Zealand Valinor?

Both of them are Middle Earth.

New Zealand is more Middle Earth, though.
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Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:02 pm

1. Reunified Korea.
2. Hungary gets Transylvania (and maybe connect them too)
3. Independent Tibet.
4. Independent Lapland.
5. Independent Greenland.
6. No European offshoots (this includes Siberia, and much of European Russia as well).
7. Aztec nation.
8. Inner Mongolia unites with Outer Mongolia (Mongolia).
9. Independent Buryatia.
10. Independent Uyghur nation.
11. Independent Catalonia.
12. Independent Scotland.
13. Redrawing of European colonial African borders to actually work out ethnically/linguistically/culturally/etc.
14. Singapore rejoins Malaysia.
15. Independent Zhang nation.
16. Japan gets the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.
17. Independent Manchuria where Manchu is the official language.
18. Tawantinsuyu revival
19. Independent Hawaii
20. Independent Maori nation
+ more

but best of all really would be

*sparkle* world communism *sparkle*

*supertastic fanfare*
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:06 pm

Arumdaum wrote:1. Reunified Korea.
2. Hungary gets Transylvania (and maybe connect them too)
3. Independent Tibet.
4. Independent Lapland.
5. Independent Greenland.
6. No European offshoots (this includes Siberia, and much of European Russia as well).
7. Aztec nation.
8. Inner Mongolia unites with Outer Mongolia (Mongolia).
9. Independent Buryatia.
10. Independent Uyghur nation.
11. Independent Catalonia.
12. Independent Scotland.
13. Redrawing of European colonial African borders to actually work out ethnically/linguistically/culturally/etc.
14. Singapore rejoins Malaysia.
15. Independent Zhang nation.
16. Japan gets the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.
17. Independent Manchuria where Manchu is the official language.
18. Tawantinsuyu revival
19. Independent Hawaii
20. Independent Maori nation
+ more

but best of all really would be

*sparkle* world communism *sparkle*

*supertastic fanfare*

I can work with all of this, but why

why Lapland and Transylvania

do you have any idea how bad an idea it is to puncture scars on the face of Eastern Europe
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Postby Mad Jack » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:06 pm

Arumdaum wrote:1. Reunified Korea.
2. Hungary gets Transylvania (and maybe connect them too)
3. Independent Tibet.
4. Independent Lapland.
5. Independent Greenland.
6. No European offshoots (this includes Siberia, and much of European Russia as well).
7. Aztec nation.
8. Inner Mongolia unites with Outer Mongolia (Mongolia).
9. Independent Buryatia.
10. Independent Uyghur nation.
11. Independent Catalonia.
12. Independent Scotland.
13. Redrawing of European colonial African borders to actually work out ethnically/linguistically/culturally/etc.
14. Singapore rejoins Malaysia.
15. Independent Zhang nation.
16. Japan gets the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.
17. Independent Manchuria where Manchu is the official language.
18. Tawantinsuyu revival
19. Independent Hawaii
20. Independent Maori nation
+ more

but best of all really would be

*sparkle* world communism *sparkle*

*supertastic fanfare*

Why are you advocating redrawing African borders on ethnic boundaries whilst also looking for Singapore to rejoin to Malaysia, when 74% of Singaporeans are of Chinese background, with only 12% being Malay?
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:07 pm

Mad Jack wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:1. Reunified Korea.
2. Hungary gets Transylvania (and maybe connect them too)
3. Independent Tibet.
4. Independent Lapland.
5. Independent Greenland.
6. No European offshoots (this includes Siberia, and much of European Russia as well).
7. Aztec nation.
8. Inner Mongolia unites with Outer Mongolia (Mongolia).
9. Independent Buryatia.
10. Independent Uyghur nation.
11. Independent Catalonia.
12. Independent Scotland.
13. Redrawing of European colonial African borders to actually work out ethnically/linguistically/culturally/etc.
14. Singapore rejoins Malaysia.
15. Independent Zhang nation.
16. Japan gets the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.
17. Independent Manchuria where Manchu is the official language.
18. Tawantinsuyu revival
19. Independent Hawaii
20. Independent Maori nation
+ more

but best of all really would be

*sparkle* world communism *sparkle*

*supertastic fanfare*

Why are you advocating redrawing African borders on ethnic boundaries whilst also looking for Singapore to rejoin to Malaysia, when 74% of Singaporeans are of Chinese background, with only 12% being Malay?

*shrugs*

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Postby Aeken » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:08 pm


that was beautiful

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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:09 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:1. Reunified Korea.
2. Hungary gets Transylvania (and maybe connect them too)
3. Independent Tibet.
4. Independent Lapland.
5. Independent Greenland.
6. No European offshoots (this includes Siberia, and much of European Russia as well).
7. Aztec nation.
8. Inner Mongolia unites with Outer Mongolia (Mongolia).
9. Independent Buryatia.
10. Independent Uyghur nation.
11. Independent Catalonia.
12. Independent Scotland.
13. Redrawing of European colonial African borders to actually work out ethnically/linguistically/culturally/etc.
14. Singapore rejoins Malaysia.
15. Independent Zhang nation.
16. Japan gets the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.
17. Independent Manchuria where Manchu is the official language.
18. Tawantinsuyu revival
19. Independent Hawaii
20. Independent Maori nation
+ more

but best of all really would be

*sparkle* world communism *sparkle*

*supertastic fanfare*

I can work with all of this, but why

why Lapland and Transylvania

do you have any idea how bad an idea it is to puncture scars on the face of Eastern Europe

if it's okay for the rest of the world, then it's okay for eastern europe~~

(i just like hungary or i guess uralic stuff, this isn't serious)
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Postby Aligned Planets » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:09 pm

Cyllea wrote:UK dissolves. Scotland, England and Wales gain independence, North Ireland unifies with The Republic of Ireland

As long as England can keep the Falklands. And some of the Commonwealth. (Hell, we'll even let places like Alaska and Hawaii join up).
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Postby Jetan » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:10 pm

Arumdaum wrote:4. Independent Lapland.

What is it with people and Lapland? The Sami are not a majority (Hell, there is more Somalis in Finland than Sami for example.), and even if they were I very much doubt Lapland could survive as a state of it's own.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:11 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Arglorand wrote:I can work with all of this, but why

why Lapland and Transylvania

do you have any idea how bad an idea it is to puncture scars on the face of Eastern Europe

if it's okay for the rest of the world, then it's okay for eastern europe~~

(i just like hungary or i guess uralic stuff, this isn't serious)

the rest of the world usually has some semblance of respecting the rights of others and not just yourself

meanwhile if you hit someone over the wrist in eastern europe, they hit someone else

who then proceeds to hit someone else

and that someone else hits someone else

and in the end everyone is hit
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:12 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:if it's okay for the rest of the world, then it's okay for eastern europe~~

(i just like hungary or i guess uralic stuff, this isn't serious)

the rest of the world usually has some semblance of respecting the rights of others and not just yourself

meanwhile if you hit someone over the wrist in eastern europe, they hit someone else

who then proceeds to hit someone else

and that someone else hits someone else

and in the end everyone is hit

D:
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:13 pm

Jetan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:4. Independent Lapland.

What is it with people and Lapland? The Sami are not a majority (Hell, there is more Somalis in Finland than Sami for example.), and even if they were I very much doubt Lapland could survive as a state of it's own.

it'd be p. cool, that's what
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Postby Aeken » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:14 pm

Jetan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:4. Independent Lapland.

What is it with people and Lapland? The Sami are not a majority (Hell, there is more Somalis in Finland than Sami for example.), and even if they were I very much doubt Lapland could survive as a state of it's own.

Couldn't it just be a big Andorra?

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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:14 pm

Aeken wrote:
Jetan wrote:What is it with people and Lapland? The Sami are not a majority (Hell, there is more Somalis in Finland than Sami for example.), and even if they were I very much doubt Lapland could survive as a state of it's own.

Couldn't it just be a big Andorra?

There shouldn't be an Andorra to begin with.

There should be Catalonia.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Aeken » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:15 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Aeken wrote:Couldn't it just be a big Andorra?

There shouldn't be an Andorra to begin with.

There should be Catalonia.

and Galicia.

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Postby Arglorand » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:16 pm

Aeken wrote:
Arglorand wrote:There shouldn't be an Andorra to begin with.

There should be Catalonia.

and Galicia.

and Euskadi.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Postby Aeken » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:18 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Aeken wrote:and Galicia.

and Euskadi.

and don't forget Silesia(upper at least).

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Postby Jetan » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:28 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Jetan wrote:What is it with people and Lapland? The Sami are not a majority (Hell, there is more Somalis in Finland than Sami for example.), and even if they were I very much doubt Lapland could survive as a state of it's own.

it'd be p. cool, that's what

It would not be cool in any sense but climate.

Aeken wrote:
Jetan wrote:What is it with people and Lapland? The Sami are not a majority (Hell, there is more Somalis in Finland than Sami for example.), and even if they were I very much doubt Lapland could survive as a state of it's own.

Couldn't it just be a big Andorra?

I doubt it. The area is simply too big and sparsely populated for that comparison.
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Postby Immoren » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:35 pm

Conscentia wrote:My Ideal Map: - Dymaxion Projection.
(Image)

I see what you did there. :lol:
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:53 pm

Why bother with a map? Why not just erase all the borders of the Earth?
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Postby Utceforp » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:55 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Utceforp wrote:If Australia is Middle Earth, would that make New Zealand Valinor?

Both of them are Middle Earth.

New Zealand is more Middle Earth, though.

If NZ is Middle Earth, where is the rest of Arda?
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