My ideal map.

by **Nervium** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:55 am

Mad Jack wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:The Welsh don't even want independence...

Nor does literally anyone on that list.

The Catalans for one, kinda do, at the very least a little more autonomy as far as I recall.

by **Dracoria** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:03 am

Immoren wrote:
Fretten wrote:Yay for the Reich!
And the yellow shouldn't have been "Neutral", just "Switzerland".

this is better Reich.

Shouldn't there be another country in there? You know, where eastern Netherlands and France, western Poland and some of the Czech Republic are? Someone mentioned it in an earlier post. Ahh, now I remember! That's where New Zealand is supposed to be!

by **Luveria** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:04 am

Immoren wrote:
Fretten wrote:Yay for the Reich!
And the yellow shouldn't have been "Neutral", just "Switzerland".

this is better Reich.

That would be a good scenario for Victoria II.

by **Sinovet** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:12 am

What the hell are we going to do about Palestine and Israel?

by **Mad Jack** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:16 am

Nervium wrote:
Mad Jack wrote:Nor does literally anyone on that list.

The Catalans for one, kinda do, at the very least a little more autonomy as far as I recall.

I stand corrected, although it's only quite recently that support for independence has reached high/majority levels.

by **Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:23 am

Sinovet wrote:What the hell are we going to do about Palestine and Israel?

Declare a republic in Jordan and add the West Bank to it.

Secede Sinai and add the Gaza Strip to it.

Maybe unite both under Jordan. And then build a bridge between Aqaba and Sinai. Possibly taking down the one to be build between Sinai and Saudi Arabia, because they're fuckers.

Compensate the loss of Israeli land with the lands with funny names "Kingdom of Israel" mentioned (to the exception of West Bank and Gaza, obviously), plus the Golan Heights and southern Lebanon.

Make Jerusalem a European city-state much like it is thought to be made of a Brussels after Belgian partition, open to people of both countries, and those born with Israeli parents there get Israeli and European citizenship; those with Palestinian parents get Palestinian and European citizenship; those with a parent of either nationality can either choose (at age 20) or have it dual (up to age 20, or forever if both countries agree to it).

by **The Archregimancy** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:54 am

Kylia wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
It is with solemn duty that I welcome you to the twenty-first century.

I'm going to ~~assume~~ pretend that you are not a pretentious, arrogant, anal-retentive, basement-dwelling êlithia, and carry on with my day.

Kylia wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
How very pleasant and cordial! If you would like, I have several books detailing the previous occurrence of states' attempts at secession. They may be eye-opening.

Arrogance. Typical. You must always assume people with different perspectives on things are asinine. How sad. I do know history, thank you. I am an idealist. Deal with it.

And quit looking down on people. It makes you look like a horse's posterior, unless you're surrounded by sycophants, in which case you wouldn't have to worry about silly things like tact and respect.

*** Warned for flamebait ***; particularly the first one.

Knock it off.

by **Constaniana** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:05 am

Sinovet wrote:What the hell are we going to do about Palestine and Israel?

They've put aside their differences and joined together as citizens of the Holy Britalian Empire against the Dominion of Darkness.

by **Glorious Wonderland** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:13 am

Israelis and Palestinians should convert and build a Yazidi empire

by **Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:15 am

Glorious Wonderland wrote:Israelis and Palestinians should convert and build a Yazidi empire

by **Kyuji** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:18 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Glorious Wonderland wrote:Israelis and Palestinians should convert and build a Yazidi empire

by **Glorious Wonderland** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:18 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Glorious Wonderland wrote:Israelis and Palestinians should convert and build a Yazidi empire

What? It's, like, the obvious solution

Kurds are cool ppl, others should follow them

by **Flaming Soul Forces** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:46 am

EU28+Norway+Iceland+Switzerland+microstates+western Balkans+Moldova+Western Ukraine+Kaliningrad oblast=European federation

by **Asigna** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:48 am

How dare you spare Russia! BTW. Reminds me of Supreme Ruler 2020, shattered world map.

by **EUstan** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:11 am

Israel annexing Judea and Samaria, and Gaza Strip.Israel gaining control in all of Golan Heights (Not only the part we have now), the Gilead, and Hevel Yamit (Part of Sinai). Lebanon becoming Christian, uniting all Middle eastern Arab states in a secular country. Coptic states which will become true Egypt.

Dissolution of UK, NI being part of Ireland. Independece to Catalonia, Baquia and Galicia. Dissolution of Belgium. Germany gains Austria, Switzerland, Allsace, Lorraine, South Tyrol and Slovenia. Hungary gaining its pre-Trianon borders. Croatia annexing Syrmia and Bosnia. Kosovo uniting with Albania. Macedonia gets its territories in Greece (also Solun). Bulgaria gots Eastern Greece (I think it Kelava called this province). Decresing Romania by losing territories to Hungary but it would be conpensated with Modlova. Creating Finland in its natural borders. Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania gaining territoriy from Russia and Germany gets Konigsberg again. Afrikaners (Western Cape), Xhosas and Zulu (KwaZulu-Natal) getting their states but the rest of South Africa will be conpensated with annexing Namibia.

by **Constaniana** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:19 am

EUstan wrote:Israel annexing Judea and Samaria, and Gaza Strip.Israel gaining control in all of Golan Heights (Not only the part we have now), the Gilead, and Hevel Yamit (Part of Sinai). Lebanon becoming Christian, uniting all Middle eastern Arab states in a secular country. Coptic states which will become true Egypt.

Dissolution of UK, NI being part of Ireland. Independece to Catalonia, Baquia and Galicia. Dissolution of Belgium. Germany gains Austria, Switzerland, Allsace, Lorraine, South Tyrol and Slovenia. Hungary gaining its pre-Trianon borders. Croatia annexing Syrmia and Bosnia. Kosovo uniting with Albania. Macedonia gets its territories in Greece (also Solun). Bulgaria gots Eastern Greece (I think it Kelava called this province). Decresing Romania by losing territories to Hungary but it would be conpensated with Modlova. Creating Finland in its natural borders. Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania gaining territoriy from Russia and Germany gets Konigsberg again. Afrikaners (Western Cape), Xhosas and Zulu (KwaZulu-Natal) getting their states but the rest of South Africa will be conpensated with annexing Namibia.

Why do people seem to be fond of dissolving the UK and forcing NI to unify with the south?

by **Arglorand** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:20 am

Constaniana wrote:
EUstan wrote:Israel annexing Judea and Samaria, and Gaza Strip.Israel gaining control in all of Golan Heights (Not only the part we have now), the Gilead, and Hevel Yamit (Part of Sinai). Lebanon becoming Christian, uniting all Middle eastern Arab states in a secular country. Coptic states which will become true Egypt.

Dissolution of UK, NI being part of Ireland. Independece to Catalonia, Baquia and Galicia. Dissolution of Belgium. Germany gains Austria, Switzerland, Allsace, Lorraine, South Tyrol and Slovenia. Hungary gaining its pre-Trianon borders. Croatia annexing Syrmia and Bosnia. Kosovo uniting with Albania. Macedonia gets its territories in Greece (also Solun). Bulgaria gots Eastern Greece (I think it Kelava called this province). Decresing Romania by losing territories to Hungary but it would be conpensated with Modlova. Creating Finland in its natural borders. Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania gaining territoriy from Russia and Germany gets Konigsberg again. Afrikaners (Western Cape), Xhosas and Zulu (KwaZulu-Natal) getting their states but the rest of South Africa will be conpensated with annexing Namibia.

Why do people seem to be fond of dissolving the UK and forcing NI to unify with the south?

Better question, why the fuck do people insist on destroying Bosnia?

by **EUstan** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:22 am

Arglorand wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Why do people seem to be fond of dissolving the UK and forcing NI to unify with the south?

Better question, why the fuck do people insist on destroying Bosnia?

I never said to wanted to destroy it, in fact quite the opposite. It was always been historical part of Croatia. Most inhabitans of Bosnia want to abolish the state. etc etc. There are more arguments.

by **Regenburg** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:24 am

best borders=no borders

by **Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:39 am

Regenburg wrote:best borders=no borders

EUstan wrote:Most inhabitans of Bosnia want to abolish the state. etc etc.

Pretty sure uniting with Croatia would alienate and anger the ethnic Serbs who have a country called Respublika Srpska inside Bosnia-Herzegovina because they don't feel identified with it (among other reasons). :roll:

by **Novo Portugal** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:39 am

Flaming Soul Forces wrote:
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EU28+Norway+Iceland+Switzerland+microstates+western Balkans+Moldova+Western Ukraine+Kaliningrad oblast=European federation

Please no...

by **Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:42 am

Novo Portugal wrote:Please no...

Join the MercoSul while you still got time, irmãozinhos. hue

by **Novo Portugal** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:45 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Novo Portugal wrote:Please no...

Join the MercoSul while you still got time, irmãozinhos. hue

We the CPLP countries should Unite efforts in a economic organization of our own

, no European federalism for me!

by **Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:50 am

Novo Portugal wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Join the MercoSul while you still got time, irmãozinhos. hue

We the CPLP countries should Unite efforts in a economic organization of our own
, no European federalism for me!

Meh, only ~~retards~~ reactionary lolbertarians think free trade areas are a good idea for third world countries who have a chance of developing a decent economy on their own, furthermore the fun thing about the MercoSul is that you can't enter any other economic agreement with other countries without the consent of your fellow members.

We ought to respect it, since Brazil, like Germany in the EU, is the one supposed to benefit the most from this.

by **Arglorand** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:51 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Regenburg wrote:best borders=no borders

EUstan wrote:Most inhabitans of Bosnia want to abolish the state. etc etc.

Pretty sure uniting with Croatia would alienate and anger the ethnic Serbs who have a country called Respublika Srpska inside Bosnia-Herzegovina because they don't feel identified with it (among other reasons).

I'm also pretty sure the plurality of the population of Bosnia, the Bosniaks, would be pissed.

For legitimate and logical reasons.

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