by Alf Landon » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:43 pm
by Geilinor » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:44 pm
by Baader-Meinhof Gruppe » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:49 pm
by The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:51 pm
by Darmen » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:53 pm
by The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:54 pm
by Alf Landon » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:55 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:Also you forgot the two main Northern Irish parties in the poll.
by Alyakia » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:56 pm
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:58 pm
by New Akkadian » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:58 pm
by The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:00 pm
Alf Landon wrote:The Nihilistic view wrote:Also you forgot the two main Northern Irish parties in the poll.
Please read the OP, where I explain why I left them out. If I included Sinn Fein and the DUP, I really would have to include the SDLP, UUP, Alliance e.t.c, and it'd get a rather long list then.
by Lantianguo » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:00 pm
by United Provinces of Atlantica » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:02 pm
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:03 pm
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:I'm not British, but if I could vote, I'd vote for either Respect, the Socialist Party of England and Wales, or (if they ran elections), I'd definitely vote for the Socialist Party of Great Britain.
by Alyakia » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:04 pm
Regnum Dominae wrote:United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:I'm not British, but if I could vote, I'd vote for either Respect, the Socialist Party of England and Wales, or (if they ran elections), I'd definitely vote for the Socialist Party of Great Britain.
Respect? Seriously?
They're only good for comic relief, and Galloway is a nutcase.
by Alf Landon » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:05 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:Alf Landon wrote:
Please read the OP, where I explain why I left them out. If I included Sinn Fein and the DUP, I really would have to include the SDLP, UUP, Alliance e.t.c, and it'd get a rather long list then.
But the welsh and Scots are the same that's why I say it.
The Blatant Bias is Blatant. You can't have a poll about a general election and not include parties that are regular seat holders in the parliament. In fact the northern Irish parties hold more seats than either the SNP or PC. So they are in fact more important to Westminster and a general election than quite a number of parties on the list.
by The Nihilistic view » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:14 pm
Alf Landon wrote:The Nihilistic view wrote:
But the welsh and Scots are the same that's why I say it.
The Blatant Bias is Blatant. You can't have a poll about a general election and not include parties that are regular seat holders in the parliament. In fact the northern Irish parties hold more seats than either the SNP or PC. So they are in fact more important to Westminster and a general election than quite a number of parties on the list.
The SNP and Plaid Cymru have rather nearly a monopoly on the Other party status in Scotland and Wales respectively. It is therefore practical to include them on the list. On the other hand, five parties hold seats in Northern Ireland, which would take the poll over the limit of entries I can include. I don't mean to be biased against Northern Ireland politics, but it would be simply impractical to include them, but to not include the SNP and Plaid Cymru because of that would be rather extreme in my view. The best way forward is for a special poll just for Northern Ireland, especially considering the politics there tend to be very different there anyway. At least in Scotland and Wales, the main national parties compete there directly, which is not the case in Northern Ireland.
by Alf Landon » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:19 pm
The Nihilistic view wrote:Alf Landon wrote:
The SNP and Plaid Cymru have rather nearly a monopoly on the Other party status in Scotland and Wales respectively. It is therefore practical to include them on the list. On the other hand, five parties hold seats in Northern Ireland, which would take the poll over the limit of entries I can include. I don't mean to be biased against Northern Ireland politics, but it would be simply impractical to include them, but to not include the SNP and Plaid Cymru because of that would be rather extreme in my view. The best way forward is for a special poll just for Northern Ireland, especially considering the politics there tend to be very different there anyway. At least in Scotland and Wales, the main national parties compete there directly, which is not the case in Northern Ireland.
the list of small parties.
DUP (8)
SNP (6)
SF (5, in abstention)
Plaid (3)
SDLP (3)
Greens (1)
Respect (1)
Alliance (1)
Independent (4)
You see how irreverent Plaid are for example yet the democratic ulster party is the fourth biggest in parliament. Your poll should have as many as possible that can fit in order from largest down. Yet in front of them you have a host of 1 and no seat parties in your poll. That makes the poll rather not a refection of the poll choices on offer in a year and a half's time. But rather who you see as important. Such a poll should be objective an contain the most important parties, clearly the democratic Ulster Party and SF are important to voters in areas of the UK.
by Dooom35796821595 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:24 pm
Nervium wrote:Greens, definetly Greens.
by Alf Landon » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:25 pm
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