Philippines Discussion Thread

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Well I thought its because the government realized that messing with the natural process by regulating birth can be disastrous in the long run, and may cause problems like gender ratio imbalance, since parents are only allowed 1 kid, they tend to prefer boys than girls.

And discrimination against Filipinos abroad *looks at Singapore*

Their individual Governments are tackling the problem, and as we increase our influence in the Global market, we'll see this discrimination fade away, or they risk losing their workforce...

Well yeah they are but the general perception of the public won't change. Especially in the western word where the labor market is unstable. Take the recent uproar here in Canada over the Temporary Workers Program. Canadian companies hire temporary workers vs Canadian workers because they can save more when they hire the former.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Their individual Governments are tackling the problem, and as we increase our influence in the Global market, we'll see this discrimination fade away, or they risk losing their workforce...

Well yeah they are but the general perception of the public won't change. Especially in the western word where the labor market is unstable. Take the recent uproar here in Canada over the Temporary Workers Program. Canadian companies hire temporary workers vs Canadian workers because they can save more when they hire the former.

Nonetheless, they prefer us due to our skill and lower costs, indicating that there is much room for growth as it means that we as a state is not even close to allocative efficiency.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Well yeah they are but the general perception of the public won't change. Especially in the western word where the labor market is unstable. Take the recent uproar here in Canada over the Temporary Workers Program. Canadian companies hire temporary workers vs Canadian workers because they can save more when they hire the former.

Nonetheless, they prefer us due to our skill and lower costs, indicating that there is much room for growth as it means that we as a state is not even close to allocative efficiency.

Well I'm talking about the impact, or the result of bringing in more Filipinos here. Which is, the public might start to develop negative perception of Filipinos. If Canadian companies prefer Filipinos because of their skills, the government should take advantage of that and use it for the development of the Philippines.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Nonetheless, they prefer us due to our skill and lower costs, indicating that there is much room for growth as it means that we as a state is not even close to allocative efficiency.

Well I'm talking about the impact, or the result of bringing in more Filipinos here. Which is, the public might start to develop negative perception of Filipinos. If Canadian companies prefer Filipinos because of their skills, the government should take advantage of that and use it for the development of the Philippines.

At this time, Filipinos are welcome there because Canadians are welcome here, if we show people that there is a mutual benefit to doing business with us then they wouldn't be scared of us, after all we're a part of their lives and they're a part of ours.

[Benshir]

And discrimination against Filipinos abroad *looks at Singapore*

Not entirely true. I'm a naturally-born Filipina studying in Singapore and I haven't experienced one incident of being discriminated against. The only reason the most recent issue flared up is because because it's another country's independence day being celebrated on Singaporean soil (which even I find a little obnoxious, being of Philippine heritage myself). The Singaporean government has already slammed those antagonizing the plans and the Filipinos pushing for it, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out why the local Singaporeans wouldn't be very appreciative of the celebration, given their country's size relative to ours (not even amounting to the population of Metro Manila).

It's the same reason why Taiwan was so angry over that fisherman's death - they feel bullied so they bite back. Plain and simple.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

And discrimination against Filipinos abroad *looks at Singapore*

Not entirely true. I'm a naturally-born Filipina studying in Singapore and I haven't experienced one incident of being discriminated against. The only reason the most recent issue flared up is because because it's another country's independence day being celebrated on Singaporean soil (which even I find a little obnoxious, being of Philippine heritage myself). The Singaporean government has already slammed those antagonizing the plans and the Filipinos pushing for it, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out why the local Singaporeans wouldn't be very appreciative of the celebration, given their country's size relative to ours (not even amounting to the population of Metro Manila).

It's the same reason why Taiwan was so angry over that fisherman's death - they feel bullied so they bite back. Plain and simple.

We don't really bully.

[Benshir]

We don't really bully.

Little more complicated when it comes to how other countries may feel about us though. I know Filipinos are good-spirited and seldom mean harm, but other peoples of other cultures and socio-economic conditions are bound to pick up on what we do very differently. Happens all the time.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

We don't really bully.

Little more complicated when it comes to how other countries may feel about us though. I know Filipinos are good-spirited and seldom mean harm, but other peoples of other cultures and socio-economic conditions are bound to pick up on what we do very differently. Happens all the time.

Sigh... I suppose you are correct, nonetheless it has been made clear that we do not pose any military threat to any nation anywhere thus I don't understand sometimes...

[Vedria]

Oh look, a Philippine discussion thread. Sweet.

About the topic, I think it's stupid to publicly celebrate Independence Day in another country. I mean, have a private party or something, but don't go out into the streets of a foreign country to celebrate the independence of your own. If people of other nations don't do so in the Philippines, it's only right and fair that we do the same for them.

[Benshir]

Oh look, a Philippine discussion thread. Sweet.

About the topic, I think it's stupid to publicly celebrate Independence Day in another country. I mean, have a private party or something, but don't go out into the streets of a foreign country to celebrate the independence of your own. If people of other nations don't do so in the Philippines, it's only right and fair that we do the same for them.

Agreed 100%.

[Asigna]

At this time, Filipinos are welcome there because Canadians are welcome here, if we show people that there is a mutual benefit to doing business with us then they wouldn't be scared of us, after all we're a part of their lives and they're a part of ours.

I object to continuing this trend that Filipinos would have to leave the country and work abroad since this trend is embarrassing us the Filipinos to many because it will seem like that our country is not capable of being on its own without having its people serve on foreign nations as workers. This is all the fault of the government which does not try to make compromises to have white collar and well paying jobs readily available for Filipinos in this nation. They actually just sit back and watch. The rise of the Filipino economy has nothing to do with Ninoy Aquino, this is all due to the rise of the Filipino labor force abroad while we suffer such a huge brain drain right here. If we keep on continuing this trend, in the long run, it is us which will suffer, our nation would be destroyed slowly because of the lack of capable workers here since all the workers have run and went abroad. The trend is being, if not enforced, encouraged by the government, the department of foreign affairs would try to make availability of jobs abroad as "good news". What about those people who remain in this nation? What will be our plight? Yes! There will be people who have good lives as they leave abroad though what about here?

[Benshir]

There will be people who have good lives as they leave abroad though what about here?

"Brain Drain."

[Neo Philippine Empire]

At this time, Filipinos are welcome there because Canadians are welcome here, if we show people that there is a mutual benefit to doing business with us then they wouldn't be scared of us, after all we're a part of their lives and they're a part of ours.

I object to continuing this trend that Filipinos would have to leave the country and work abroad since this trend is embarrassing us the Filipinos to many because it will seem like that our country is not capable of being on its own without having its people serve on foreign nations as workers. This is all the fault of the government which does not try to make compromises to have white collar and well paying jobs readily available for Filipinos in this nation. They actually just sit back and watch. The rise of the Filipino economy has nothing to do with Ninoy Aquino, this is all due to the rise of the Filipino labor force abroad while we suffer such a huge brain drain right here. If we keep on continuing this trend, in the long run, it is us which will suffer, our nation would be destroyed slowly because of the lack of capable workers here since all the workers have run and went abroad. The trend is being, if not enforced, encouraged by the government, the department of foreign affairs would try to make availability of jobs abroad as "good news". What about those people who remain in this nation? What will be our plight? Yes! There will be people who have good lives as they leave abroad though what about here?

my father worked in a foreign country, but wants to work here

[Vedria]

At this time, Filipinos are welcome there because Canadians are welcome here, if we show people that there is a mutual benefit to doing business with us then they wouldn't be scared of us, after all we're a part of their lives and they're a part of ours.

I object to continuing this trend that Filipinos would have to leave the country and work abroad since this trend is embarrassing us the Filipinos to many because it will seem like that our country is not capable of being on its own without having its people serve on foreign nations as workers. This is all the fault of the government which does not try to make compromises to have white collar and well paying jobs readily available for Filipinos in this nation. They actually just sit back and watch. The rise of the Filipino economy has nothing to do with Ninoy Aquino, this is all due to the rise of the Filipino labor force abroad while we suffer such a huge brain drain right here. If we keep on continuing this trend, in the long run, it is us which will suffer, our nation would be destroyed slowly because of the lack of capable workers here since all the workers have run and went abroad. The trend is being, if not enforced, encouraged by the government, the department of foreign affairs would try to make availability of jobs abroad as "good news". What about those people who remain in this nation? What will be our plight? Yes! There will be people who have good lives as they leave abroad though what about here?

Correct. Very correct.

The solution is simple: more good jobs.

To achieve it? We need deregulation of business, yet not at the expense of the working Filipino and more political willpower to finish off the insurgencies.

But, then again, the government is too bloated and inefficient to do this in a timely manner.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

At this time, Filipinos are welcome there because Canadians are welcome here, if we show people that there is a mutual benefit to doing business with us then they wouldn't be scared of us, after all we're a part of their lives and they're a part of ours.

I object to continuing this trend that Filipinos would have to leave the country and work abroad since this trend is embarrassing us the Filipinos to many because it will seem like that our country is not capable of being on its own without having its people serve on foreign nations as workers. This is all the fault of the government which does not try to make compromises to have white collar and well paying jobs readily available for Filipinos in this nation. They actually just sit back and watch. The rise of the Filipino economy has nothing to do with Ninoy Aquino, this is all due to the rise of the Filipino labor force abroad while we suffer such a huge brain drain right here. If we keep on continuing this trend, in the long run, it is us which will suffer, our nation would be destroyed slowly because of the lack of capable workers here since all the workers have run and went abroad. The trend is being, if not enforced, encouraged by the government, the department of foreign affairs would try to make availability of jobs abroad as "good news". What about those people who remain in this nation? What will be our plight? Yes! There will be people who have good lives as they leave abroad though what about here?

Well them working overseas is a perfect opportunity to spread our influence, culture and pro-philippinism (not a true word but I don't know any alternative) to the rest of the World, it's not embarassing when the result is more pro Filipinos who aren't Filipinos.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

I object to continuing this trend that Filipinos would have to leave the country and work abroad since this trend is embarrassing us the Filipinos to many because it will seem like that our country is not capable of being on its own without having its people serve on foreign nations as workers. This is all the fault of the government which does not try to make compromises to have white collar and well paying jobs readily available for Filipinos in this nation. They actually just sit back and watch. The rise of the Filipino economy has nothing to do with Ninoy Aquino, this is all due to the rise of the Filipino labor force abroad while we suffer such a huge brain drain right here. If we keep on continuing this trend, in the long run, it is us which will suffer, our nation would be destroyed slowly because of the lack of capable workers here since all the workers have run and went abroad. The trend is being, if not enforced, encouraged by the government, the department of foreign affairs would try to make availability of jobs abroad as "good news". What about those people who remain in this nation? What will be our plight? Yes! There will be people who have good lives as they leave abroad though what about here?

Correct. Very correct.

The solution is simple: more good jobs.

To achieve it? We need deregulation of business, yet not at the expense of the working Filipino and more political willpower to finish off the insurgencies.

But, then again, the government is too bloated and inefficient to do this in a timely manner.

I understand perfectly, nonetheless we should worry about the state of the Government over the next two decades as the next election will determine whether or not we continue on a stable path or regress into an Arroyo state.

[Benshir]

Well them wokling overseas is a perfect opportunity to spread our influence, culture and pro-philippinism (not a true word but I don't know any alternative) to the rest of the World, it's not embarassing when the result is more pro Filipinos who aren't Filipinos.

We can only speculate on that latter part as to how the other peoples of the world are going to take our presence there. That they find us willing to spread our culture is one thing; that they find our own country utterly incapable of providing for its own people is another.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Well them wokling overseas is a perfect opportunity to spread our influence, culture and pro-philippinism (not a true word but I don't know any alternative) to the rest of the World, it's not embarassing when the result is more pro Filipinos who aren't Filipinos.

We can only speculate on that latter part as to how the other peoples of the world are going to take our presence there. That they find us willing to spread our culture is one thing; that they find our own country utterly incapable of providing for its own people is another.

We are perfectly cabable, that much is being made clear, but it would be very helpful if we continued the trend, at-least till we know who's going to run the country after 2016.

[Benshir]

We are perfectly cabable, that much is being made clear, but it would be very helpful if we continued the trend, at-least till we know who's going to run the country after 2016.

How exactly is that perfectly clear?

[Vedria]

Correct. Very correct.

The solution is simple: more good jobs.

To achieve it? We need deregulation of business, yet not at the expense of the working Filipino and more political willpower to finish off the insurgencies.

But, then again, the government is too bloated and inefficient to do this in a timely manner.

I understand perfectly, nonetheless we should worry about the state of the Government over the next two decades as the next election will determine whether or not we continue on a stable path or regress into an Arroyo state.

We all want a good future for this country, that is a given. The ony question is how.

Some may say that we should stay on our current path. Economically, I agree.

Politically? I say revolution.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

We are perfectly cabable, that much is being made clear, but it would be very helpful if we continued the trend, at-least till we know who's going to run the country after 2016.

How exactly is that perfectly clear?

Well, our poverty is being reduced, (3% is a good start) we are going to be rice self sufficient by the middle of this year (hopefully as long as another storm doesn't hit us) and we are industrializing, quite rapidly...

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

I understand perfectly, nonetheless we should worry about the state of the Government over the next two decades as the next election will determine whether or not we continue on a stable path or regress into an Arroyo state.

We all want a good future for this country, that is a given. The ony question is how.

Some may say that we should stay on our current path. Economically, I agree.

Politically? I say revolution.

And what do you mean by Revolution?

[Vedria]

We all want a good future for this country, that is a given. The ony question is how.

Some may say that we should stay on our current path. Economically, I agree.

Politically? I say revolution.

And what do you mean by Revolution?

Not neccessarily leftist or socialist in nature, as you may assume. I want total change in the government system. I want an actual democracy or a benelovent dictatorship than this oligarichal mess that we have today.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

And what do you mean by Revolution?

Not neccessarily leftist or socialist in nature, as you may assume. I want total change in the government system. I want an actual democracy or a benelovent dictatorship than this oligarichal mess that we have today.

We just need to decrease our Government size, that's all.

[Vedria]

Not neccessarily leftist or socialist in nature, as you may assume. I want total change in the government system. I want an actual democracy or a benelovent dictatorship than this oligarichal mess that we have today.

We just need to decrease our Government size, that's all.

Really? What do you think of the oligarchies in power in the government?