Philippines Discussion Thread

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Speaking of anecdotes of Chinese people:

A very good friend of mine studied in Peking University (one of their premier universities, and one of the best in Asia now apparently) graduated just last year, he says even the "very best and brightest" there, while technically quite competent, are very poor as far as critical thinking and opinionmaking is concerned. They need to do what they're told, and apparently they mostly buy whatever Xinhua/Global Times/other State Media tell them.

Another friend of mine visited Beijing just this January, and he says the same thing. Many of the locals he talked to just simply take the Party/State's word for it regarding most things, and don't bother to question it.

Maybe that's what the Party wanted from the very start, a populace that's taught not to question authority.

Why do you think our population is expected to increase by 100 million in the next 20 years?

Birth controls and knowledge about it is unavailable to general populace, doesn't mean Catholics are extreme. If anything, some Protestant sects are.

The Catholic Church has time and time again prevented the passage of the RH bill and continues to delay the inevitable.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Again, have you heard of the Bible Belt? Have you seen what Russia has been doing to LGBT people (which might have been influenced by the Orthodox Church). The very fact that despite Philippine's high level of religiosity and influence of the Church, that we are ranked Asia's friendliest nation to gay people, disproves your argument.

So the fact that we're not friendly towards contraception despite a clear need and want for it is not a good argument to consider?

Is your country cracking down gay people? (In africa it is illegal)
answer = The Republic of Pantalleria.post
answer2 = Emilio Aguinaldo.post
If
answer = yes
Then
answer2 = Yes, not a good argument.
End If

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

The Catholic Church has time and time again prevented the passage of the RH bill and continues to delay the inevitable.

Last time I checked the news, the Vatican didn't breathe a word about RH Bill, or about Philippine Politics. CBCP =/= Catholic Church. And the last time I checked, many Catholics are not happy with the CBCP either, including me.

Again, have you heard of the Bible Belt? Have you seen what Russia has been doing to LGBT people (which might have been influenced by the Orthodox Church). The very fact that despite Philippine's high level of religiosity and influence of the Church, that we are ranked Asia's friendliest nation to gay people, disproves your argument.

So the fact that we're not friendly towards contraception despite a clear need and want for it is not a good argument to consider?

Sure, we may not be friendly to contraception. But that alone doesn't make Catholics extremist.

Is your country cracking down gay people? (In africa it is illegal)
answer = The Republic of Pantalleria.post
answer2 = Emilio Aguinaldo.post
If
answer = yes
Then
answer2 = Yes, not a good argument.
End If

Funny. We're discussing If statements on our Computer Science class

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

The Catholic Church has time and time again prevented the passage of the RH bill and continues to delay the inevitable.

Last time I checked the news, the Vatican didn't breathe a word about RH Bill, or about Philippine Politics. CBCP =/= Catholic Church. And the last time I checked, many Catholics are not happy with the CBCP either, including me.

So the fact that we're not friendly towards contraception despite a clear need and want for it is not a good argument to consider?

Sure, we may not be friendly to contraception. But that alone doesn't make Catholics extremist.

Is your country cracking down gay people? (In africa it is illegal)
answer = The Republic of Pantalleria.post
answer2 = Emilio Aguinaldo.post
If
answer = yes
Then
answer2 = Yes, not a good argument.
End If

Funny. We're discussing If statements on our Computer Science class

Another major thing to consider is that the Catholic Church has been a major source of corruption in the country, although there are some churches within protestantism that suffer from the same problems, the Catholic Church has been suffering this for centuries therefore it's high time we give something else a shot. Also I don't understand this whole computer science thing, it seems rather alien to me.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Last time I checked the news, the Vatican didn't breathe a word about RH Bill, or about Philippine Politics. CBCP =/= Catholic Church. And the last time I checked, many Catholics are not happy with the CBCP either, including me.

Sure, we may not be friendly to contraception. But that alone doesn't make Catholics extremist.

Funny. We're discussing If statements on our Computer Science class

Another major thing to consider is that the Catholic Church has been a major source of corruption in the country, although there are some churches within protestantism that suffer from the same problems, the Catholic Church has been suffering this for centuries therefore it's high time we give something else a shot.

I didn't know much about Spanish Era so I couldn't comment on that but I will say this. We Filipinos, Catholics or not, will do business easier even if its not the good thing to do. Instead of walking, we prefer our jeepneys to stop in the middle of the road. Instead of finding the nearest trash can, we just leave our crap everywhere. Same can be said to other aspects of our society like politics. Its not limited to Catholics. I myself have been doubting whether everytime my parents donate every mass, if it really goes to the poor. I think the important part to remember is that as a country, whatever the state of affairs is of the country is not based on whether or not the populace is Catholic, but how we as a society act to change it.

Same goes with Divorce and RH Bill. Instead of whining how the CBCP blocks these, why not blame the politicians who have no balls to pass it, or why not blame you and me and the other 98 (or so) million Filipinos who are not doing anything to make these two things happen? CBCP is just a bunch of old guys commenting on issues that doesn't affect them, that does not represent all Catholics.

Also I don't understand this whole computer science thing, it seems rather alien to me.

It's fun and easier to understand than what I thought before. Give it a shot if you're bored.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Another major thing to consider is that the Catholic Church has been a major source of corruption in the country, although there are some churches within protestantism that suffer from the same problems, the Catholic Church has been suffering this for centuries therefore it's high time we give something else a shot.

I didn't know much about Spanish Era so I couldn't comment on that but I will say this. We Filipinos, Catholics or not, will do business easier even if its not the good thing to do. Instead of walking, we prefer our jeepneys to stop in the middle of the road. Instead of finding the nearest trash can, we just leave our crap everywhere. Same can be said to other aspects of our society like politics. Its not limited to Catholics. I myself have been doubting whether everytime my parents donate every mass, if it really goes to the poor. I think the important part to remember is that as a country, whatever the state of affairs is of the country is not based on whether or not the populace is Catholic, but how we as a society act to change it.

Same goes with Divorce and RH Bill. Instead of whining how the CBCP blocks these, why not blame the politicians who have no balls to pass it, or why not blame you and me and the other 98 (or so) million Filipinos who are not doing anything to make these two things happen? CBCP is just a bunch of old guys commenting on issues that doesn't affect them, that does not represent all Catholics.

Also I don't understand this whole computer science thing, it seems rather alien to me.

It's fun and easier to understand than what I thought before. Give it a shot if you're bored.

Sigh... I would still prefer to see what a protestant state would look like...
Also, what do you mean? How?

[The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol]

I didn't know much about Spanish Era so I couldn't comment on that but I will say this. We Filipinos, Catholics or not, will do business easier even if its not the good thing to do. Instead of walking, we prefer our jeepneys to stop in the middle of the road. Instead of finding the nearest trash can, we just leave our crap everywhere. Same can be said to other aspects of our society like politics. Its not limited to Catholics. I myself have been doubting whether everytime my parents donate every mass, if it really goes to the poor. I think the important part to remember is that as a country, whatever the state of affairs is of the country is not based on whether or not the populace is Catholic, but how we as a society act to change it.

Same goes with Divorce and RH Bill. Instead of whining how the CBCP blocks these, why not blame the politicians who have no balls to pass it, or why not blame you and me and the other 98 (or so) million Filipinos who are not doing anything to make these two things happen? CBCP is just a bunch of old guys commenting on issues that doesn't affect them, that does not represent all Catholics.


It's fun and easier to understand than what I thought before. Give it a shot if you're bored.

Sigh... I would still prefer to see what a protestant state would look like...
Also, what do you mean? How?

A protestant state would look pretty much like America.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

A protestant state would look pretty much like America.

Ah, America. It always amuse me how some religious Conservatives in the US can be both God-loving people while saying f*ck the poor.

Sigh... I would still prefer to see what a protestant state would look like...
Also, what do you mean? How?

*Thinks of Philippines with INC being the largest Protestant group*
Nope.

-Try using Microsoft Visual Studio is you're interested with programming. Although it will come with a pricey tag.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Sigh... I would still prefer to see what a protestant state would look like...
Also, what do you mean? How?

A protestant state would look pretty much like America.

And The United Kingdom, and Germany, and Iceland, and Norway and Sweden and Denmar... Actually nevermind, Catholicism maybe not that bad after all.

[The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol]

A protestant state would look pretty much like America.

And The United Kingdom, and Germany, and Iceland, and Norway and Sweden and Denmar... Actually nevermind, Catholicism maybe not that bad after all.

America is closest to how the phillippines would look, as it actually owned them for a bit, and has a high proportion of catholics (all those irish/italian/hispanic immigrants). The other countries don't fit ao well because they don't have as much in the way of a catholic tradition.

[Geilinor]

And The United Kingdom, and Germany, and Iceland, and Norway and Sweden and Denmar... Actually nevermind, Catholicism maybe not that bad after all.

America is closest to how the phillippines would look, as it actually owned them for a bit, and has a high proportion of catholics (all those irish/italian/hispanic immigrants). The other countries don't fit ao well because they don't have as much in the way of a catholic tradition.

About one-third of Germany's population is Catholic.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

America is closest to how the phillippines would look, as it actually owned them for a bit, and has a high proportion of catholics (all those irish/italian/hispanic immigrants). The other countries don't fit ao well because they don't have as much in the way of a catholic tradition.

About one-third of Germany's population is Catholic.

I'm talking about the more successful northern protestant part, you know the one that didn't vote Hitler in.

[The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol]

America is closest to how the phillippines would look, as it actually owned them for a bit, and has a high proportion of catholics (all those irish/italian/hispanic immigrants). The other countries don't fit ao well because they don't have as much in the way of a catholic tradition.

About one-third of Germany's population is Catholic.

I stand corrected. I don't really think norway, sweden, denmark, nd britain have had a whole lot of catholiscism in recent centuries, however.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

About one-third of Germany's population is Catholic.

I stand corrected. I don't really think norway, sweden, denmark, nd britain have had a whole lot of catholiscism in recent centuries, however.

They're only prominent in Bavaria.

[The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol]

A protestant state would look pretty much like America.

Ah, America. It always amuse me how some religious Conservatives in the US can be both God-loving people while saying f*ck the poor.

Sigh... I would still prefer to see what a protestant state would look like...
Also, what do you mean? How?

*Thinks of Philippines with INC being the largest Protestant group*
Nope.

-Try using Microsoft Visual Studio is you're interested with programming. Although it will come with a pricey tag.

American Catholics actually tend towards liberalism a bit (well, liberalism for america), due to the church's position on things like environmental conservation/social justice. Sure, you have conservative catholics who don't like gov't welfare, but that's less of a catholic thing and more of a conservative one.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Ah, America. It always amuse me how some religious Conservatives in the US can be both God-loving people while saying f*ck the poor.


*Thinks of Philippines with INC being the largest Protestant group*
Nope.

-Try using Microsoft Visual Studio is you're interested with programming. Although it will come with a pricey tag.

American Catholics actually tend towards liberalism a bit (well, liberalism for america), due to the church's position on things like environmental conservation/social justice. Sure, you have conservative catholics who don't like gov't welfare, but that's less of a catholic thing and more of a conservative one.

Meh, that aside the Catholics are still pretty weird.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

American Catholics actually tend towards liberalism a bit (well, liberalism for america), due to the church's position on things like environmental conservation/social justice. Sure, you have conservative catholics who don't like gov't welfare, but that's less of a catholic thing and more of a conservative one.

Meh, that aside the Catholics are still pretty weird.

With thousands of Protestant sects all around the world, I disagree.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Meh, that aside the Catholics are still pretty weird.

With thousands of Protestant sects all around the world, I disagree.

I view Catholicism more as a franchise than anything with the CEO in Vatican city the Headquarters for the Holy See (Catholic Church Incorporated)

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

With thousands of Protestant sects all around the world, I disagree.

I view Catholicism more as a franchise than anything with the CEO in Vatican city the Headquarters for the Holy See (Catholic Church Incorporated)

The same can be said about most of Protestant sects. What sect do you belong to?

[The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol]

With thousands of Protestant sects all around the world, I disagree.

I view Catholicism more as a franchise than anything with the CEO in Vatican city the Headquarters for the Holy See (Catholic Church Incorporated)

Centralized religious governance is actually the norm. For other examples, see: buhhdism, orthodoxy (for each individual orthodox church), islam (on national scales, anyways).

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Well to get rid of these nonsense religious conflicts that is hindering Philippine's progress, why don't we just all agree to go back worshiping anitos, diwatas and stuff like that.

[The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol]

Well to get rid of these nonsense religious conflicts that is hindering Philippine's progress, why don't we just all agree to go back worshiping anitos, diwatas and stuff like that.

In any conversation between three people, you'll find at least four dissenting opinions. If everyone suddenly turned atheist, or roman catholic, or sikhist today, we'd just find something elseto fight about.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Well to get rid of these nonsense religious conflicts that is hindering Philippine's progress, why don't we just all agree to go back worshiping anitos, diwatas and stuff like that.

In any conversation between three people, you'll find at least four dissenting opinions. If everyone suddenly turned atheist, or roman catholic, or sikhist today, we'd just find something elseto fight about.

It would be worse if we are all sikhs especially with their honor killings.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Well to get rid of these nonsense religious conflicts that is hindering Philippine's progress, why don't we just all agree to go back worshiping anitos, diwatas and stuff like that.

In any conversation between three people, you'll find at least four dissenting opinions. If everyone suddenly turned atheist, or roman catholic, or sikhist today, we'd just find something elseto fight about.

NSG can't agree on anything

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

I view Catholicism more as a franchise than anything with the CEO in Vatican city the Headquarters for the Holy See (Catholic Church Incorporated)

The same can be said about most of Protestant sects. What sect do you belong to?

Baptist