Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Soldati Senza Confini]

At least they learned from Continental Europe's mistakes and prevented a crisis in time

'mistakes'
say that again m8, ill bash yer f00kin hed in, sware on me mum

Okay, disasters then.

[United Misotheist]

Declaration of war, dispersing chemical or radioactive agents within one's hemisphere, intervention in an allied nation.

Then you would like to know Nigeria is our most important African trading partner and most important African diplomatic partner:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria%E2 ... _relations

What else do we need to intervene, either diplomatically or militarily?

If they are important to us then we seek diplomacy, not a liberal war of dominination and destruction.

[Swedish Realm]

I also care for humans, which is why sending troops will make it worse. I will not let my Kinsman be killed over such a petty situation, that can be easily resolved by Nigerian Revolution.

Yeah, I'm sure i'll be a walk in the park for homosexuals to overthrow the Nigerian government. The Nigerians are as much your Kinsmen as your fellow swedes.

They are not my kinsman, while I do support a coup d'etat there, I do not think we should send men and women, or weapons. We must not interfere, we are neutral.

[Risottia]

Social Democracy was probably someone or other going "Hey, this socialism idea is great, guys, but how about we don't do the whole 'dictatorship of the proletariat' schtick?"

He proceeded to be kicked out of the DDR.

No, the exact quote is "Hey, this communism idea is great, guys; how about we actually implement it instead of this State Capitalism bullshit?"
He proceeded to get invaded by the Soviets.

His name was Alexander Dubcek.

[Risottia]

I also care for humans, which is why sending troops will make it worse. I will not let my Kinsman be killed over such a petty situation, that can be easily resolved by Nigerian Revolution.

Well we wouldnt a revolution, that implies that a communist government could be established. Revolutions are dangerous, I mean personally I would not mind still being a servant of the crown.

Saudi Arabia looks like the perfect place for you, then.

[Ostroeuropa]

Yeah, I'm sure i'll be a walk in the park for homosexuals to overthrow the Nigerian government. The Nigerians are as much your Kinsmen as your fellow swedes.

They are not my kinsman, while I do support a coup d'etat there, I do not think we should send men and women, or weapons. We must not interfere, we are neutral.

Ahh I see.
It's not intervening to protect homosexuals you object to.
It's intervening to protect black homosexuals.

[Olivaero]

Yeah, I'm sure i'll be a walk in the park for homosexuals to overthrow the Nigerian government. The Nigerians are as much your Kinsmen as your fellow swedes.

They are not my kinsman, while I do support a coup d'etat there, I do not think we should send men and women, or weapons. We must not interfere, we are neutral.

It's just so arbitrary. Just because they aren't part of your ethnic group doesn't mean they aren't worth thinking about.

[The New Lowlands]

'mistakes'
say that again m8, ill bash yer f00kin hed in, sware on me mum

Okay, disasters then.

goddurn monarchists

Then you would like to know Nigeria is our most important African trading partner and most important African diplomatic partner:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria%E2 ... _relations

What else do we need to intervene, either diplomatically or militarily?

If they are important to us then we seek diplomacy, not a liberal war of dominination and destruction.

The most prominent proponent of intervention in this thread AFAIS is Luveria, a self-professed neocon.

An intervention would not be a war of domination, and every war ever is a war of destruction (except maybe this one,) so... yeah.

[Swedish Realm]

They are not my kinsman, while I do support a coup d'etat there, I do not think we should send men and women, or weapons. We must not interfere, we are neutral.

Ahh I see.
It's not intervening to protect homosexuals you object to.
It's intervening to protect black homosexuals.

No. Do not insult me with your pathetic assumptions.

[Risottia]

They are not my kinsman, while I do support a coup d'etat there, I do not think we should send men and women, or weapons. We must not interfere, we are neutral.

Ahh I see.
It's not intervening to protect homosexuals you object to.
It's intervening to protect black homosexuals.

As I stated earlier: it's acceptable to be gay, it's acceptable to be black, but having both defects in a single person is a bit too much of a stretch.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Ahh I see.
It's not intervening to protect homosexuals you object to.
It's intervening to protect black homosexuals.

No. Do not insult me with your pathetic assumptions.

Well, if we were to go with Foreign relations, Sweden is trying to develop relations with Nigeria from what I understand, so you guys' government has an interest in the region as well.

[Magna Libero]

in my opinion the international community must react in a strong and decisive manner. That includes condemnation,

1. It's Nigeria's business.

international pressure,

2. Such as what? Build a huge wall around the borders of every country that refuses to legalize petty fag activities?

and cutting off aid. This is totally unacceptable.

3. Cutting off aid ONLY to Nigeria? Man, Nigeria should have a full right to revenge in that case.

"Rarely have I seen a piece of legislation that in so few paragraphs directly violates so many basic, universal human rights"
- Navi Pillay

Do you agree, or do you think the international community should stay out of what is largely a domestic affair?

4. Totally stay out of it, as long as too many people don't die, because of it. It's none of our business.

[Iuronia]

Honestly, I couldn't care. Nigeria is a backwards country, and it has far bigger issues than the fact that homosexuals can't marry - something commonplace in many countries, many of them quite advanced.

[The New Lowlands]

Honestly, I couldn't care. Nigeria is a backwards country, and it has far bigger issues than the fact that homosexuals can't marry - something commonplace in many countries, many of them quite advanced.

Multitasking is a thing.

[Swedish Realm]

No. Do not insult me with your pathetic assumptions.

Well, if we were to go with Foreign relations, Sweden is trying to develop relations with Nigeria from what I understand, so you guys' government has an interest in the region as well.

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

[Luveria]

Honestly, I couldn't care. Nigeria is a backwards country, and it has far bigger issues than the fact that homosexuals can't marry - something commonplace in many countries, many of them quite advanced.

It isn't about homosexuals not being allowed to marry. Nigeria has never allowed that. Read the OP and you will notice Nigeria is executing people for being gay.

[Ostroeuropa]

Well, if we were to go with Foreign relations, Sweden is trying to develop relations with Nigeria from what I understand, so you guys' government has an interest in the region as well.

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

They wont less us send medicine in nigeria.

[Luveria]

Well, if we were to go with Foreign relations, Sweden is trying to develop relations with Nigeria from what I understand, so you guys' government has an interest in the region as well.

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

Then you agree Nigeria's recent law should be reversed? Nigeria is denying AIDS treatment to LGBT Nigerians.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well, if we were to go with Foreign relations, Sweden is trying to develop relations with Nigeria from what I understand, so you guys' government has an interest in the region as well.

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

If there are economic relations involved then that's not the only thing Sweden needs to care about.

[Swedish Realm]

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

Then you agree Nigeria's recent law should be reversed? Nigeria is denying AIDS treatment to LGBT Nigerians.

Yeah, I agree that the Homosexual community deserves the same medical treatment, but interfering in a militant manner is so fucking stupid.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

I love how some people here follow the mentality of "we are so civilized we know how things should be handled better than anybody, and it's our moral duty to civilize the poor ignorant savages for their own good, whether they want it or not", and yet vehemently deny any accusations of cultural bigotry.

[Swedish Realm]

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

If there are economic relations involved then that's not the only thing Sweden needs to care about.

#Neutral

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

Then you agree Nigeria's recent law should be reversed? Nigeria is denying AIDS treatment to LGBT Nigerians.

The only thing in Africa that Sweden needs to intervene with is the AIDS epidemic. Send medicine and the like, etc.

They wont less us send medicine in nigeria.

Don't you guys love foreign relations?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If there are economic relations involved then that's not the only thing Sweden needs to care about.

#Neutral

That's your point of view. Once two nations begin to be trading and diplomatic partners you really don't have any other choice but to engage in diplomatic action and flex your military muscle if you are a more powerful nation and the weaker nation does not comply.

[Luveria]

Then you agree Nigeria's recent law should be reversed? Nigeria is denying AIDS treatment to LGBT Nigerians.

They wont less us send medicine in nigeria.

Don't you guys love foreign relations?

No. I would prefer there was only one country, so foreign relations would not exist.

I love how some people here follow the mentality of "we are so civilized we know how things should be handled better than anybody, and it's our moral duty to civilize the poor ignorant savages for their own good, whether they want it or not", and yet vehemently deny any accusations of cultural bigotry.

Do provide examples of who has been saying Nigerians are ignorant savages.