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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:18 pm

What the fuck, Nigeria. This is absolutely horrible.

The 93rd Coalition wrote:That's a little... harsh.

Understatement of the century.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:18 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:Yeah! Like that one about a 200 year old book telling them to hate gays. And the other one about a big man in the sky telling them to hate gays.

The Crucible was a piece of anti-gay literature?

Buggering hell. Edited my post. Typing too fast. :p
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Postby Luxew » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:19 pm

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Luxew wrote:France revoking gay marriage? That's only if the extreme-moderate right gets on the premiership

The only Conservative party I support is Norway's, really.

Their more extreme right wing parties are gaining traction, and I wouldn't be surprised if the leftists lost the presidency soon, seeing as Hollande is a sexual demon.

I agree with that, not Hollande being a sexual demon. News at 11.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:19 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:This probably belongs in the mega thread. And the fact that Nigeria denies rights to the gays really shouldn't be a surprise. By the way, Iran doesn't look kindly on them either :blink: .

Iran has nothing to do with this. Stop derailing.
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Postby Resawa » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:19 pm

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:20 pm

Huangdiist Union wrote:The moon might not be a cheese yet, but with the right fungus cultivation that could change.

How the hell is this related to Nigeria or gay rights? Stop spamming.
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Postby The Fraticelli Papacy » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:20 pm

Luxew wrote:
The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:It contributes wildly to the spread of disease, it can damage both partners involved, and it decreases the fertility rate to have it legal, all of which are major problems in Nigeria.

1> Heterosexuals can spred diseases sexually as well
2>Number 1
3>Not everyone is gay
4>Nigeria has one of the higher birthrates on Earth. If that's the population argument, focus on countries that population is dwindling, like Germany's and Japan;s.

1.Yes, but homosexuals are far less likely to have "safe" sex.
2. Women were built to be the "receivers" of sex. Men were not.
3. Okay?
4. Nigeria has a huge murder rate, as well as a high number of people dying from disease.
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Postby San » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:21 pm

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Othelos wrote:Like what?

It contributes wildly to the spread of disease, it can damage both partners involved, and it decreases the fertility rate to have it legal, all of which are major problems in Nigeria.

hi! condoms exist!

stop pretending they don't! thank you!!!!!!
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:22 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Blasveck wrote:And water I wet. The moon is not made of cheese.

What are we supposed to discuss anyways?

The international reaction, for starters. I know my OP was long and contained complex bits, so to make it easier:

How do you think the international community should react to this? Cutting off aid, condemnations, sanctions, strong words, shrugging and carrying on as before, cheering and applauding, other?

You could also discuss whether it goes too far, or if you think it's OK to have legislation which makes it criminal to support homosexuals.


Given that most UN members and a majority of the West support gay rights, it's reasonable to suspect that they disapprove.

Though, I doubt they'll actually do anything. Homosexuals are already persecuted in plenty of other nations. This is no different .
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:22 pm

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:
Luxew wrote:1> Heterosexuals can spred diseases sexually as well
2>Number 1
3>Not everyone is gay
4>Nigeria has one of the higher birthrates on Earth. If that's the population argument, focus on countries that population is dwindling, like Germany's and Japan;s.

1.Yes, but homosexuals are far less likely to have "safe" sex.
2. Women were built to be the "receivers" of sex. Men were not.
3. Okay?
4. Nigeria has a huge murder rate, as well as a high number of people dying from disease.

1. Not true.
2. That is sexist
3. Yes
4. Thus less children would be good.
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Neu California wrote:Shouldn't this be in the LGBT Rights and Issues thread? Since, you know, this is about LGBT RIghts and Issues?

I don't agree with the idea behind that megathread. All it does is to ensure that things like this doesn't get debated, since it would drown in a massive swamp of issues.

I also don't agree that it's limited to LGBT rights, since the law also target non-LGBT supporters of gay rights.

We'll see what happens. It's going to be extremely telling if this is merged with the other thread.
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:23 pm

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:
Luxew wrote:1> Heterosexuals can spred diseases sexually as well
2>Number 1
3>Not everyone is gay
4>Nigeria has one of the higher birthrates on Earth. If that's the population argument, focus on countries that population is dwindling, like Germany's and Japan;s.

1.Yes, but homosexuals are far less likely to have "safe" sex.
2. Women were built to be the "receivers" of sex. Men were not.
3. Okay?
4. Nigeria has a huge murder rate, as well as a high number of people dying from disease.

1.Heterosexuals don't anal?
2.Source for that.
3.Your ad here.
4.That's irrelevant as long as they don't face extinction, which is far from the case.
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Postby The Fraticelli Papacy » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:24 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:1.Yes, but homosexuals are far less likely to have "safe" sex.
2. Women were built to be the "receivers" of sex. Men were not.
3. Okay?
4. Nigeria has a huge murder rate, as well as a high number of people dying from disease.

1. Not true.
2. That is sexist
3. Yes
4. Thus less children would be good.

1. Very true. "Men can't get pregnant!"
2. Oh yes, women having vaginas is quite sexist. Excuse me.
3. Still don't know how that's relevant.
4. "Less people to kill!" That's not how it works.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:24 pm

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:
Luxew wrote:1> Heterosexuals can spred diseases sexually as well
2>Number 1
3>Not everyone is gay
4>Nigeria has one of the higher birthrates on Earth. If that's the population argument, focus on countries that population is dwindling, like Germany's and Japan;s.

1.Yes, but homosexuals are far less likely to have "safe" sex.
2. Women were built to be the "receivers" of sex. Men were not.
3. Okay?
4. Nigeria has a huge murder rate, as well as a high number of people dying from disease.

1. Source?
2. Nope.
4. So less people will be good.

Also, did you know that heterosexuals can spread HIV/AIDS?
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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:25 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Gravlen wrote:The international reaction, for starters. I know my OP was long and contained complex bits, so to make it easier:

How do you think the international community should react to this? Cutting off aid, condemnations, sanctions, strong words, shrugging and carrying on as before, cheering and applauding, other?

You could also discuss whether it goes too far, or if you think it's OK to have legislation which makes it criminal to support homosexuals.


Given that most UN members and a majority of the West support gay rights, it's reasonable to suspect that they disapprove.

Though, I doubt they'll actually do anything. Homosexuals are already persecuted in plenty of other nations. This is no different .

Should they take action though? I say yes. Bring on the economic sanctions.
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Postby Othelos » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:25 pm

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:
Luxew wrote:1> Heterosexuals can spred diseases sexually as well
2>Number 1
3>Not everyone is gay
4>Nigeria has one of the higher birthrates on Earth. If that's the population argument, focus on countries that population is dwindling, like Germany's and Japan;s.

1.Yes, but homosexuals are far less likely to have "safe" sex.


Source, plz.

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:2. Women were built to be the "receivers" of sex. Men were not.


Source.

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:4. Nigeria has a huge murder rate, as well as a high number of people dying from disease.


So? The population is still increasing.

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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:27 pm

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:"Rights" are man-made. If you listen to what the people in favor of this say, they actually turn out some legitimate arguments.

I hope you can provide some of them here.
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Othelos » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:28 pm

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:
Beta Test wrote:1. Not true.
2. That is sexist
3. Yes
4. Thus less children would be good.

1. Very true. "Men can't get pregnant!"


Condoms are used for more than just to protect against pregnancy.

You're also only focusing on men. What about lesbians?

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:2. Oh yes, women having vaginas is quite sexist. Excuse me.


There are other forms of sex, other than vaginal.

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:4. "Less people to kill!" That's not how it works.


What?

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Postby The Fraticelli Papacy » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:29 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:1.Yes, but homosexuals are far less likely to have "safe" sex.
2. Women were built to be the "receivers" of sex. Men were not.
3. Okay?
4. Nigeria has a huge murder rate, as well as a high number of people dying from disease.

1. Source?
2. Nope.
4. So less people will be good.

Also, did you know that heterosexuals can spread HIV/AIDS?


2. Vagina, it's a thing.
4. It doesn't work that way.

Yes, but 60% of men in the US got aids from Male-to-Male sexual contact. (http://www.mcrh.org/AIDS/113686.htm)
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Postby Molsonian Republics » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:30 pm

San wrote:
The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:It contributes wildly to the spread of disease, it can damage both partners involved, and it decreases the fertility rate to have it legal, all of which are major problems in Nigeria.

hi! condoms exist!

stop pretending they don't! thank you!!!!!!

To bad gay people don't use them
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Postby San » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:30 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
San wrote:hi! condoms exist!

stop pretending they don't! thank you!!!!!!

To bad gay people don't use them

i take it you've first hand knowledge?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:31 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
San wrote:hi! condoms exist!

stop pretending they don't! thank you!!!!!!

To bad gay people don't use them

What do you mean, gay people don't use condoms? Why do you say things that you have no idea about?
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:31 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
San wrote:hi! condoms exist!

stop pretending they don't! thank you!!!!!!

To bad gay people don't use them


Erm.

What?
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:32 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
San wrote:hi! condoms exist!

stop pretending they don't! thank you!!!!!!

To bad gay people don't use them


Erm.

What?
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