Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Nigerian Kenya]

It's Nigeria's right to make their own laws regarding homosexuality; the other countries of the world shouldn't give it aid; but they shouldn't try to force it into becoming more liberal on the issue, either. No country, including the U.S., has the right to police the world.

[Geilinor]

It's Nigeria's right to make their own laws regarding homosexuality; the other countries of the world shouldn't give it aid; but they shouldn't try to force it into becoming more liberal on the issue, either. No country, including the U.S., has the right to police the world.

What about the UN?

[Kuwabarka]

It's Nigeria's right to make their own laws regarding homosexuality; the other countries of the world shouldn't give it aid; but they shouldn't try to force it into becoming more liberal on the issue, either. No country, including the U.S., has the right to police the world.

What about the UN?

The UN isn't a country though.

[Luveria]

It's Nigeria's right to make their own laws regarding homosexuality; the other countries of the world shouldn't give it aid; but they shouldn't try to force it into becoming more liberal on the issue, either. No country, including the U.S., has the right to police the world.

The US has not only a right to police the world, but an obligation to do so. The UN is incapable of enforcing its laws. The US could be of great assistance with that by intervening to ensure Nigeria respects the UN laws on human rights it signed.

[EUstan]

Somebody would like to overthrow a legal government and embargo Nigeria. How democratic and human right loving.

Their government is not legal. It violates the Nigerian constitution and several UN agreements Nigeria signed.

The Nigerian government has been voted on free and democratic elections. The will of people is the far more important, the people also want that the government violates the constitution.

Overthrowing their government would be a crime against the nigerian people.

[EUstan]

Somebody would like to overthrow a legal government and embargo Nigeria. How democratic and human right loving.

I'd argue that said government is not legal if it denies its subjects their rights to life, liberty, and property.

Many leaders sometimes violated the constitution (like Lincoln and Allende). So, you think that their governments are also not legal?

[Liriena]

It's Nigeria's right to make their own laws regarding homosexuality; the other countries of the world shouldn't give it aid; but they shouldn't try to force it into becoming more liberal on the issue, either. No country, including the U.S., has the right to police the world.

Actually, if Nigeria breaks any international legislation on human rights that they themselves are part of and protects LGBT people, then Nigeria has no right to make laws senselessly persecuting LGBT people.

[Chedastan]

Their government is not legal. It violates the Nigerian constitution and several UN agreements Nigeria signed.

The Nigerian government has been voted on free and democratic elections. The will of people is the far more important, the people also want that the government violates the constitution.

Overthrowing their government would be a crime against the nigerian people.

That's a tyranny by majority.

[Luveria]

Their government is not legal. It violates the Nigerian constitution and several UN agreements Nigeria signed.

The Nigerian government has been voted on free and democratic elections. The will of people is the far more important, the people also want that the government violates the constitution.

No, the rule of law is what is important. If Nigeria does not wish to experience an intervention, then they should withdraw from the UN so they are no longer violating international laws they agreed to.

Overthrowing their government would be a crime against the nigerian people.

Their government is literally a crime against the Nigerian people as the law is unconstitutional.

[Liriena]

Their government is not legal. It violates the Nigerian constitution and several UN agreements Nigeria signed.

The Nigerian government has been voted on free and democratic elections. The will of people is the far more important, the people also want that the government violates the constitution.

This... is not even wrong.

[Liriena]

I'd argue that said government is not legal if it denies its subjects their rights to life, liberty, and property.

Many leaders sometimes violated the constitution (like Lincoln and Allende). So, you think that their governments are also not legal?

Those governments should have been punished for violating the very principles they are supposed to uphold, yes.

[Ponderosa]

Once again, 70% of the world believes that evolution is still a joke.

Bandwagon logical fallacy. The fact that 70% of the world (largely made up of people who are not qualified to speak on the validity of evolution) are creationists means absolutely nothing.

[Luveria]

I'd argue that said government is not legal if it denies its subjects their rights to life, liberty, and property.

Many leaders sometimes violated the constitution (like Lincoln and Allende). So, you think that their governments are also not legal?

TU QUOQUE IS A FALLACY AND NOT AN ARGUMENT.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

[Liriena]

Evolution is a fact. We can literally see it happening right in front of our eyes with antibiotic-resistant bacteria and the like.

But not in humans. Strange.

Sure you can. When you have a biological child, and that child shares traits from both you and your partner, that's a form of evolution.

[Geilinor]

I'd argue that said government is not legal if it denies its subjects their rights to life, liberty, and property.

Many leaders sometimes violated the constitution (like Lincoln and Allende). So, you think that their governments are also not legal?

Those leaders didn't allow parts of the country to implement Shari'a law and start torturing people. http://web.archive.org/web/20110524133652/http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/sub-saharan-africa/nigeria?ta=lawsCustoms&pg=3

[San]

Many leaders sometimes violated the constitution (like Lincoln and Allende). So, you think that their governments are also not legal?

TU QUOQUE IS A FALLACY AND NOT AN ARGUMENT.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

a cop who has a known criminal past isn't likely to succeed in law enforcement, tbf

[YellowApple]

TU QUOQUE IS A FALLACY AND NOT AN ARGUMENT.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

a cop who has a known criminal past isn't likely to succeed in law enforcement, tbf

Actually, for all we know, he/she might be more likely to succeed, given that he/she probably has quite a bit of experience as a perp and thus can think like one.

[Luveria]

TU QUOQUE IS A FALLACY AND NOT AN ARGUMENT.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

a cop who has a known criminal past isn't likely to succeed in law enforcement, tbf

My criminal past isn't known. I have a clean record.

[Dragoria]

But not in humans. Strange.

Sure you can. When you have a biological child, and that child shares traits from both you and your partner, that's a form of evolution.

That's more genetic mixing. If the child has some new trait that neither you nor your partner had, that's mutation, and if the mutation proves beneficial to the child and their subsequent offspring, allowing them to successfully produce and raise more offspring than others, that's an adaptation. Various adaptations piling up as time and generations pass is evolution.

[Vashta Nerada]

It's Nigeria's right to make their own laws regarding homosexuality; the other countries of the world shouldn't give it aid; but they shouldn't try to force it into becoming more liberal on the issue, either. No country, including the U.S., has the right to police the world.

The US has not only a right to police the world, but an obligation to do so. The UN is incapable of enforcing its laws. The US could be of great assistance with that by intervening to ensure Nigeria respects the UN laws on human rights it signed.

Just popping in to check up. Then your free to go grab a gun and fly to Nigeria, and enforce your beliefs on the majority of Nigerians. I'm sure you can gather up a sizable crew to do that. Also, please make a stop in Israel and blow to them for us since they continue to ignore UN resolutions.

[Liriena]

Sure you can. When you have a biological child, and that child shares traits from both you and your partner, that's a form of evolution.

That's more genetic mixing. If the child has some new trait that neither you nor your partner had, that's mutation, and if the mutation proves beneficial to the child and their subsequent offspring, allowing them to successfully produce and raise more offspring than others, that's an adaptation. Various adaptations piling up as time and generations pass is evolution.

Well... you get my drift.

[Vashta Nerada]

a cop who has a known criminal past isn't likely to succeed in law enforcement, tbf

My criminal past isn't known. I have a clean record.

Every dude in jail says the same thing.

[Luveria]

The US has not only a right to police the world, but an obligation to do so. The UN is incapable of enforcing its laws. The US could be of great assistance with that by intervening to ensure Nigeria respects the UN laws on human rights it signed.

Just popping in to check up.

I'm still waiting for you to read those sources.

Then your free to go grab a gun and fly to Nigeria, and enforce your beliefs on the majority of Nigerians.

That is not my job. Others are being paid to do that.

I'm sure you can gather up a sizable crew to do that.

A US-led Western coalition certainly can.

Also, please make a stop in Israel and blow to them for us since they continue to ignore UN resolutions.

Stop using Tu Quoque style arguments. Israel is not the issue.

[The Orson Empire]

It's Nigeria's right to make their own laws regarding homosexuality; the other countries of the world shouldn't give it aid; but they shouldn't try to force it into becoming more liberal on the issue, either. No country, including the U.S., has the right to police the world.

The US has not only a right to police the world, but an obligation to do so. The UN is incapable of enforcing its laws. The US could be of great assistance with that by intervening to ensure Nigeria respects the UN laws on human rights it signed.

Bullshit.

The US has no right to act as the world police.

[Luveria]

My criminal past isn't known. I have a clean record.

Every dude in jail says the same thing.

That's nice.