Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Luveria]

When the US threatened that, Nigeria responded by saying the US is a nation filled with "Abnormals" that are trying to export homosexuality.

I think you're confusing Uganda and Nigeria, because when the president of Uganda vetoed the anti-gay bill on his desk he said:

In his lengthy letter to Uganda’s parliament, reported on Friday by a Ugandan newspaper, Mr. Museveni denounced gays as “abnormal” and “disgusting” people who often practise homosexuality “for mercenary reasons.” He was alluding to a popular Ugandan theory that young people are financially induced into homosexuality.

Some women, he claimed, become lesbians because of “sexual starvation” after they failed to marry. He added: “It could be that the Western societies, on account of random breeding, have generated many abnormal people.”

Adopting a philosophical tone, he said: “The question at the core of the debate on homosexuality is: What do we do with an abnormal person? Do we kill him/her? Do we imprison him/her? Or do we contain him/her?”

On a related note: This bears quoting from the article as well:

Western protests against the Ugandan anti-gay bill were undoubtedly a factor in Mr. Museveni’s decision to oppose the law, since Uganda is heavily dependent on foreign aid. Among the many protests was a strong warning from British billionaire Richard Branson, who called for businesses to boycott Uganda.

You're right.

[The Scientific States]

Homosexuality has been proved not a choice, and it's been proven "natural."
Homosexuality had never been proven "unnatural."

I'm wondering why you're so damn stubborn, as we keep proving you wrong, and you keep contradicting yourself. We've shown you that your arguments are null and void, but you cling to them.

I'm stubborn because I have four, five separate guys telling me my view is wrong and their's is inherently right because their way is the moral, scientifically proven way it should be. I'd much rather stick to what has been stated to be natural. When we get some more guys from my side, I'd be happy to continue, but for now, I can stand and fight six guys at once. I'm not Chuck Norris.

We're not saying that. You are. You're saying that "I don't like it, therefore it's unnatural!"

There aren't many guys on your side, because most people are smart enough to know that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

[Liriena]

I'd much rather stick to what has been stated to be natural.

Such as homosexuality, bisexuality and being transgender.

[The Scientific States]

1) anal sex isn't exclusively homosexual
2) homosexual sex isn't exclusively anal
3) sex is often for casual purposes
4) none of this holds any relevance to how homosexuality is inherently ebul
5) you're also ignoring everything you said in your prev post

Its difficult to respond to six people at once. I'm not sure what it is that I'm ignoring from my previous post, so you'll have to clarify that.

So now you're going to ignore more arguments because "I can't debate with all you guys, it's unfair!"

[Dragoria]

Homosexuality has been proved not a choice, and it's been proven "natural."
Homosexuality had never been proven "unnatural."

I'm wondering why you're so damn stubborn, as we keep proving you wrong, and you keep contradicting yourself. We've shown you that your arguments are null and void, but you cling to them.

I'm stubborn because I have four, five separate guys telling me my view is wrong and their's is inherently right because their way is the moral, scientifically proven way it should be. I'd much rather stick to what has been stated to be natural. When we get some more guys from my side, I'd be happy to continue, but for now, I can stand and fight six guys at once. I'm not Chuck Norris.

What you have stated you consider to be "natural" has absolutely nothing to do with what is or isn't actually natural.
Your opinion has no basis in fact.

[Vashta Nerada]

Sorry, it's rather difficult to respond to several people at once. If cannibalism is perfectly fine in other parts of the world, why can't I eat a person here in the "free and moral" West? Something a little funny about the meat?

Your point was that law, morals, religion, and culture made humans superior in their consideration of homosexuality because it 'wasn't natural'. Cannibalism developed from those four things. These ad hominems are rather annoying.

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong. Also annoying is the statement that homosexuality is perfectly fine because we've been doing it for thousands of years. Is murder perfectly fine too because animals do it and we've been doing it for thousands of years as well?

[Liriena]

Obviously.

But I've seen lesbians with very roomy vaginas so that can't be true.

Okay... we need keep this PG-13

[The Scientific States]

Your point was that law, morals, religion, and culture made humans superior in their consideration of homosexuality because it 'wasn't natural'. Cannibalism developed from those four things. These ad hominems are rather annoying.

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong.

Again, humans are animals.

Anyways, we are "superior", but we still have the same basic traits as animals.

[Dragoria]

Sorry, it's rather difficult to respond to several people at once. If cannibalism is perfectly fine in other parts of the world, why can't I eat a person here in the "free and moral" West? Something a little funny about the meat?

Your point was that law, morals, religion, and culture made humans superior in their consideration of homosexuality because it 'wasn't natural'. Cannibalism developed from those four things. These ad hominems are rather annoying.

Their claim that it "wasn't natural" was wrong, just like your claim that it's unnatural now.

[Vashta Nerada]

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong.

Again, humans are animals.

Anyways, we are "superior", but we still have the same basic traits as animals.

Except for the laws, morals, religion, culture, and reason too.

[Liriena]

Your point was that law, morals, religion, and culture made humans superior in their consideration of homosexuality because it 'wasn't natural'. Cannibalism developed from those four things. These ad hominems are rather annoying.

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong.

Humans are not really superior to other animals. Evolution doesn't optimize.

[Luveria]

But I've seen lesbians with very roomy vaginas so that can't be true.

Okay... we need keep this PG-13

It still is. Vashta's argument is that sex requiring lube is unnatural, and that has been proven wrong.

[Dragoria]

Your point was that law, morals, religion, and culture made humans superior in their consideration of homosexuality because it 'wasn't natural'. Cannibalism developed from those four things. These ad hominems are rather annoying.

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong. Also annoying is the statement that homosexuality is perfectly fine because we've been doing it for thousands of years. Is murder perfectly fine too because animals do it and we've been doing it for thousands of years as well?

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

[Vashta Nerada]

I'm stubborn because I have four, five separate guys telling me my view is wrong and their's is inherently right because their way is the moral, scientifically proven way it should be. I'd much rather stick to what has been stated to be natural. When we get some more guys from my side, I'd be happy to continue, but for now, I can stand and fight six guys at once. I'm not Chuck Norris.

What you have stated you consider to be "natural" has absolutely nothing to do with what is or isn't actually natural.
Your opinion has no basis in fact.

Two men cannot have children. Nor can two women. That's a fact. Not my opinion.

[The Scientific States]

Again, humans are animals.

Anyways, we are "superior", but we still have the same basic traits as animals.

Except for the laws, morals, religion, culture, and reason too.

Laws, morals, religion, and culture are man-made things. Your argument is invalid, again.

[The Scientific States]

What you have stated you consider to be "natural" has absolutely nothing to do with what is or isn't actually natural.
Your opinion has no basis in fact.

Two men cannot have children. Nor can two women. That's a fact. Not my opinion.

And, that matters why?

[Luveria]

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong. Also annoying is the statement that homosexuality is perfectly fine because we've been doing it for thousands of years. Is murder perfectly fine too because animals do it and we've been doing it for thousands of years as well?

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

To be fair, same-sex relationship breakups can be emotionally painful for some people.

[Dragoria]

Again, humans are animals.

Anyways, we are "superior", but we still have the same basic traits as animals.

Except for the laws, morals, religion, culture, and reason too.

Those things are unnatural, because they're constructed by humans and do not otherwise occur in nature.
Unlike homosexuality.

[Aeken]

Your point was that law, morals, religion, and culture made humans superior in their consideration of homosexuality because it 'wasn't natural'. Cannibalism developed from those four things. These ad hominems are rather annoying.

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong. Also annoying is the statement that homosexuality is perfectly fine because we've been doing it for thousands of years. Is murder perfectly fine too because animals do it and we've been doing it for thousands of years as well?

We have a higher sentience, yes. But all you are saying is 'we did this for a long time, why isn't that right?'. That's your only argument.

[Liriena]

Again, humans are animals.

Anyways, we are "superior", but we still have the same basic traits as animals.

Except for the laws, morals, religion, culture, and reason too.

All of which serve an evolutionary purpose.

[Chedastan]

What you have stated you consider to be "natural" has absolutely nothing to do with what is or isn't actually natural.
Your opinion has no basis in fact.

Two men cannot have children. Nor can two women. That's a fact. Not my opinion.

Sperm banks, egg donors.

[Vashta Nerada]

Humans are superior to animals. Unless you'd like to go live in the forest for a couple of years that is and prove me wrong. Also annoying is the statement that homosexuality is perfectly fine because we've been doing it for thousands of years. Is murder perfectly fine too because animals do it and we've been doing it for thousands of years as well?

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes. Assuming God doesn't exist, and that we are animals, then evolution should have come up with ways for it not hurt and allow us to perform anal sex without the need for lube, as we'd have it already naturally.

[Liriena]

What you have stated you consider to be "natural" has absolutely nothing to do with what is or isn't actually natural.
Your opinion has no basis in fact.

Two men cannot have children. Nor can two women. That's a fact. Not my opinion.

Yet that has nothing to do with homosexuality being natural or unnatural.

[Dragoria]

What you have stated you consider to be "natural" has absolutely nothing to do with what is or isn't actually natural.
Your opinion has no basis in fact.

Two men cannot have children. Nor can two women. That's a fact. Not my opinion.

So, a woman or man who is sterile can not have children no matter how many members of the opposite sex they mate with.
Should we ban them for having sex and throw them in jail and stip them of human rights for being "unnatural" too?

[The Scientific States]

Murder hurts people. Homosexuality doesn't.
This isn't complicated.

So does anal sex. Without lubrication, it WILL hurt. The anus does not lubricate naturally, meaning that it can't possibly be for sexual purposes.

Without some lubrication, vaginal intercourse will hurt.