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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:18 pm

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Vashta Nerada wrote:Animals eat one another and kill eat other in the millions. Humans don't. We know that both are wrong and actively work to stop it. I think that's a major difference in the human vs. animal debate.

Eating animals is wrong?

Maybe.
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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:18 pm

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Vashta Nerada wrote:I'm saying that because we aren't animals, having sex with the same gender is clearly wrong and unnatural.

Your logic is astoundingly poor.

My logic is based on the fact that I view sex as something that only a man and a woman should perform together. I view it as both a bonding and reproductive act. The penis and vagina work will together because that's how they were made. Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:19 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
San wrote:Your logic is astoundingly poor.

My logic is based on the fact that I view sex as something that only a man and a woman should perform together. I view it as both a bonding and reproductive act. The penis and vagina work will together because that's how they were made. Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.


You shouldn't stand by something that's been proved wrong.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:19 pm

The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Animals eat one another and kill eat other in the millions. Humans don't. We know that both are wrong and actively work to stop it. I think that's a major difference in the human vs. animal debate.

Eating animals is wrong?


The consumption of the meat itself, no, there is nothing wrong about that.

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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:20 pm

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
The Fraticelli Papacy wrote:Eating animals is wrong?

Maybe.

Vegans lack sufficient amounts protein, which is necessary for their bodies to function properly. Eating animals is vital to human life. But that's not the point. If humans are animals, why don't I see "humanburgers" at McDonald's? Why is it that if I eat another human, I'm thrown into the psychiatric ward of a prison?
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Postby San » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:20 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
San wrote:Your logic is astoundingly poor.

My logic is based on the fact that I view sex as something that only a man and a woman should perform together. I view it as both a bonding and reproductive act. The penis and vagina work will together because that's how they were made. Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.

1) anal sex isn't exclusively homosexual
2) homosexual sex isn't exclusively anal
3) sex is often for casual purposes
4) none of this holds any relevance to how homosexuality is inherently ebul
5) you're also ignoring everything you said in your prev post
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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:20 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
San wrote:Your logic is astoundingly poor.

My logic is based on the fact that I view sex as something that only a man and a woman should perform together. I view it as both a bonding and reproductive act. The penis and vagina work will together because that's how they were made. Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.


Also, anal sex isn't really sex, as reproduction isn't involved. With your logic, blowjobs and other sexual acts are immoral.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:21 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Maybe.

Vegans lack sufficient amounts protein, which is necessary for their bodies to function properly. Eating animals is vital to human life. But that's not the point. If humans are animals, why don't I see "humanburgers" at McDonald's? Why is it that if I eat another human, I'm thrown into the psychiatric ward of a prison?


You just contradicted yourself. Animals eat other animals, we are one of the animal species that does that.

Earlier you essentially said eating other animals is wrong.
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Postby San » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:21 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:Vegans lack sufficient amounts protein, which is necessary for their bodies to function properly. Eating animals is vital to human life.

once again, astounding poor logic.

Take a look at a guy called Austin Aries. Vegan professional wrestler with a better body than 95% of meat eaters.
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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:22 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:My logic is based on the fact that I view sex as something that only a man and a woman should perform together. I view it as both a bonding and reproductive act. The penis and vagina work will together because that's how they were made. Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.


You shouldn't stand by something that's been proved wrong.

Proved wrong by those seeking to promote homosexuality. That's like having Nazis trying other Nazis. Of course they'll prove it "wrong". If weren't wrong, then they wouldn't be about to say homosexuality was right.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:22 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction


So you're opposed to oral sex too?

Vashta Nerada wrote: and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.


You realize people use lubricants for vaginal sex too?

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Postby Liriena » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:23 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
You shouldn't stand by something that's been proved wrong.

Proved wrong by those seeking to promote homosexuality. That's like having Nazis trying other Nazis. Of course they'll prove it "wrong". If weren't wrong, then they wouldn't be about to say homosexuality was right.

That's an ad hominem. If you can't prove them right by actually refuting their research, don't resort to attacking their alleged ulterior motives. Even a biased researcher can be right.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:23 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Maybe.

Vegans lack sufficient amounts protein, which is necessary for their bodies to function properly. Eating animals is vital to human life.

Actually, 1 different legume and 3 different cereal species each meal thrice a day adequately replaces animal-based protein necessities without the carcinogenic element of muscle cooked through heat, or its fat content, or the minor risk of you to contract prion diseases, or your indirect exposure to hormones and antibiotics. ;)
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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:24 pm

San wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Vegans lack sufficient amounts protein, which is necessary for their bodies to function properly. Eating animals is vital to human life.

once again, astounding poor logic.

Take a look at a guy called Austin Aries. Vegan professional wrestler with a better body than 95% of meat eaters.

It truly depends on what kind of vegan he is. If he's the type that thinks fish and eggs aren't meat, then of course he'll have protein in his diet.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:24 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
You shouldn't stand by something that's been proved wrong.

Proved wrong by those seeking to promote homosexuality. That's like having Nazis trying other Nazis. Of course they'll prove it "wrong". If weren't wrong, then they wouldn't be about to say homosexuality was right.


Homosexuality has been proved not a choice, and it's been proven "natural."
Homosexuality had never been proven "unnatural."

I'm wondering why you're so damn stubborn, as we keep proving you wrong, and you keep contradicting yourself. We've shown you that your arguments are null and void, but you cling to them.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:24 pm

Luveria wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction


So you're opposed to oral sex too?

Vashta Nerada wrote: and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.


You realize people use lubricants for vaginal sex too?

Vaginas can tear too. Poor things. :(
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Postby San » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:25 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
San wrote:once again, astounding poor logic.

Take a look at a guy called Austin Aries. Vegan professional wrestler with a better body than 95% of meat eaters.

It truly depends on what kind of vegan he is. If he's the type that thinks fish and eggs aren't meat, then of course he'll have protein in his diet.

he doesn't eat fish iirc

but still, that doesn't prove me wrong in the slightest as he's a living, breathing example of vegans not dropping dead the second meat stops touching their lips.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:25 pm

Liriena wrote:
Luveria wrote:
So you're opposed to oral sex too?



You realize people use lubricants for vaginal sex too?

Vaginas can tear too. Poor things. :(


It's worth pointing out that when doing large vaginal insertions, lube is a must to prevent that.

But I guess Vashta will say you shouldn't be using large sex toys because it's "unnatural" due to requiring the use of lube to be safe.
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Postby Aeken » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:25 pm

Aeken wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Animals eat one another and kill eat other in the millions. Humans don't. We know that both are wrong and actively work to stop it. I think that's a major difference in the human vs. animal debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism

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Postby Vashta Nerada » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:26 pm

Luveria wrote:
Vashta Nerada wrote:Unless you can prove that the anus is for reproduction


So you're opposed to oral sex too?

Vashta Nerada wrote: and won't rip and tear without the aid of man-made lubricants, I stand by my "astoundingly poor" logic.


You realize people use lubricants for vaginal sex too?

I am opposed to oral sex. Your penis goes in a vaginal, not a mouth. And they use lube when the woman either doesn't produce enough herself, or they don't want to wait. That's why we have foreplay, to get her "ready" for sex. Basic information you should already know.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:26 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
You shouldn't stand by something that's been proved wrong.

Proved wrong by those seeking to promote homosexuality. That's like having Nazis trying other Nazis. Of course they'll prove it "wrong". If weren't wrong, then they wouldn't be about to say homosexuality was right.


Why do you hate facts?

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Postby Luveria » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:26 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Luveria wrote:
So you're opposed to oral sex too?



You realize people use lubricants for vaginal sex too?

I am opposed to oral sex. Your penis goes in a vaginal, not a mouth. And they use lube when the woman either doesn't produce enough herself, or they don't want to wait. That's why we have foreplay, to get her "ready" for sex. Basic information you should already know.


No, a penis goes wherever it wants to go as long as it's all consensual.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:27 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
Luveria wrote:
So you're opposed to oral sex too?



You realize people use lubricants for vaginal sex too?

I am opposed to oral sex. Your penis goes in a vaginal, not a mouth. And they use lube when the woman either doesn't produce enough herself, or they don't want to wait. That's why we have foreplay, to get her "ready" for sex. Basic information you should already know.


Why do you think the penis should only go in a vagina? You're appealing to nature.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:27 pm

Vashta Nerada wrote:
San wrote:once again, astounding poor logic.

Take a look at a guy called Austin Aries. Vegan professional wrestler with a better body than 95% of meat eaters.

It truly depends on what kind of vegan he is. If he's the type that thinks fish and eggs aren't meat, then of course he'll have protein in his diet.

Eggs aren't "protein", they're "fat".

Beans are "protein".

You don't know rat shit of biology and nutrition, don't you?

And true vegans substitute even honey for agave nectar.
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He hasn't responded to 90 percent of the posts directed at him.

This is common amongst homophobes.
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