Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Vashta Nerada]

Well then I recant my previous statement. But my view is that two guys sticking parts of their body into the other's waste disposal system is both wrong and unnatural. Just because you love something doesn't make it right. People love animals, kids, relatives and inanimate objects romantically. Doesn't make it right. Homosexuality is the same thing, only difference is that more people support it. I don't. Also, on the latter part, the LGBT community likens their "struggle" to that of the Jews and African Americans, who actually suffered under a major event that justified their plight. The LGBT's community's only card is that their adults who consent to having a sexual or romantic relationship with one another, and its more similar to a standard marriage. Combine that with the fact they've been shoving their views down the world's throat (no pun intended) for the last fifty years, and get the Western perception that homosexuality is perfectly okay.

so i take it you're fine with lesbians?

Too be honest, if that were natural and had a purpose,then yeah I would be. But since it isn't, I'm not fine with it.

[Luveria]

so i take it you're fine with lesbians?

Too be honest, if that were natural and a purpose,then yeah I would be. But since it isn't, I'm not fine with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

[The Scientific States]

so i take it you're fine with lesbians?

Too be honest, if that were natural and had a purpose,then yeah I would be. But since it isn't, I'm not fine with it.

How is it unnatural?

[Aeken]

so i take it you're fine with lesbians?

Too be honest, if that were natural and a purpose,then yeah I would be. But since it isn't, I'm not fine with it.

It's natural. And by what arbitrary purpose are you implying?

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Too be honest, if that were natural and had a purpose,then yeah I would be. But since it isn't, I'm not fine with it.

Of course relationships, love and sex have purposes. And of course LGBT people have children too. And of course adopted children are not inferior. And of course many straight people are childless.

[Luveria]

I like more than just those things. Hybrids are especially tasty.

I have a thing in special for trans men (who might be offended, thinking I'm a fetishist) and straight men (who will not reply any sentiments in special).

No one reasonable will call it a fetish. Perhaps you will meet a trans man who will be appreciative of how you view them to be optimal in terms of attraction.

[San]

Too be honest, if that were natural and had a purpose,then yeah I would be. But since it isn't, I'm not fine with it.

How is it unnatural?

breaking news nature is fake we're all robots!

[Marcurix]

Also, I'm pretty sure most LGBT people don't loathe you, so why don't you care? Why would it take (another) LGBT holocaust for you to care for their suffering?

Well then I recant my previous statement. But my view is that two guys sticking parts of their body into the other's waste disposal system is both wrong and unnatural.

Do you also go around without shoes? Shoes are unnatural, and TV, the internet, cars...

Homosexuality, however, occurs within nature in many species so it's not unnatural.

Just because you love something doesn't make it right.

I said the same thing while eating pie the other day.

People love animals, kids, relatives and inanimate objects romantically. Doesn't make it right. Homosexuality is the same thing, only difference is that more people support it.

Actually, legally speaking the key difference is consent.

I don't.

If that wasn't clear by now.

Also, on the latter part, the LGBT community likens their "struggle" to that of the Jews and African Americans, who actually suffered under a major event that justified their plight.

Well ignoring that most countries have punishments-lashings, death, forced sterilization, many social consequences and so forth for being gay and have had so for hundreds of years we can actively compare them to what African Americans and Jews (who's discrimination was suffered long before the Holocaust)

The LGBT's community's only card is that their adults who consent to having a sexual or romantic relationship with one another,

Which is actually pretty important.

and its more similar to a standard marriage. Combine that with the fact they've been shoving their views down the world's throat (no pun intended) for the last fifty years, and get the Western perception that homosexuality is perfectly okay.

That might be because it is? It doesn't harm you-or anyone for that matter.

[Vashta Nerada]

Too be honest, if that were natural and a purpose,then yeah I would be. But since it isn't, I'm not fine with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

Animals lack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct. Animals are animals. That's why we call them animals. I suppose if humans were eating one another because animals did, that would be natural too?

[Liriena]

Also, I'm pretty sure most LGBT people don't loathe you, so why don't you care? Why would it take (another) LGBT holocaust for you to care for their suffering?

Well then I recant my previous statement.

Alright.

But my view is that two guys sticking parts of their body into the other's waste disposal system is both wrong and unnatural.

That anal sex between two men may be "wrong" can be debated, but it most certainly is not unnatural. If it's physically possible, and the neurological processes of both men involved drive them to it, then it's a perfectly natural process all the way through.

Just because you love something doesn't make it right.

Of course.

People love animals, kids, relatives and inanimate objects romantically. Doesn't make it right.

Of course.

Homosexuality is the same thing, only difference is that more people support it.

Actually... there's also the issue of informed consent and homosexuality being a sexual orientation, rather than a paraphilia.

I don't.

I can tell.

Also, on the latter part, the LGBT community likens their "struggle" to that of the Jews and African Americans, who actually suffered under a major event that justified their plight. The LGBT's community's only card is that their adults who consent to having a sexual or romantic relationship with one another, and its more similar to a standard marriage. Combine that with the fact they've been shoving their views down the world's throat (no pun intended) for the last fifty years, and get the Western perception that homosexuality is perfectly okay.

Thanks for utterly disregarding the established historical fact that LGBT people were, throughout history, imprisoned, tortured, raped and killed throughout the world, and in many countries still are. Thanks for disregarding the thousands of LGBT people who were killed alongside Jews and Romani during the Holocaust, or those that perished under the hands of the Church during the Middle Ages and the European colonization of America and the Pacific. Thank you very fucking much.

[San]

morals, religion

i'm laughing

[The Scientific States]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

Animals lack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct. Animals are animals. That's why we call them animals. I suppose if humans were eating one another because animals did, that would be natural too?

That argument has no logical foundation.

[Liriena]

Tu quoque is not a proper argument.

It is a proper argument. Both signed and broke treaties that they were bound too, and neither care much for global reaction to it.

So? Does that mean Nigeria should not be held accountable? That their crimes are any less punishable?

[Marcurix]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

Animals lack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct. Animals are animals. That's why we call them animals. I suppose if humans were eating one another because animals did, that would be natural too?

I don't think you understand the meaning of "natural."

[Luveria]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

Animals lack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct. I suppose if humans were eating one another because animals did, that would be natural too?

The shifting goalposts fallacy now.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/special-pleading

You said "if it were natural".

It's been shown to be natural. Now you've moved the goalposts.

[Aeken]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

Animals lack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct. I suppose if humans were eating one another because animals did, that would be natural too?

You're making a comparison... to cannibalism? What the hell? Law, culture, morals, and religion are all creations.

[Luveria]

But my view is that two guys sticking parts of their body into the other's waste disposal system is both wrong and unnatural.

You know that women urinate from their vaginas right?

[San]

But my view is that two guys sticking parts of their body into the other's waste disposal system is both wrong and unnatural.

You know that women urinate from their vaginas right?

not quite, luv

[Unitaristic Regions]

http://lovematters.in/en/news/anal-sex-top-five-facts

Sorry man. Anal seems to be a pleasurable form of sex, doesn't seem very unnatural to me.

There are people who consider anal to be more pleasurable than penile or vaginal.

God intended for people to enjoy anal sex or he wouldn't have placed so many pleasurable nerve endings for it.

My point exactly!

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

But my view is that two guys sticking parts of their body into the other's waste disposal system is both wrong and unnatural.

You know that women urinate from their vaginas right?

No, they don't.

But they menstruate, and the vagina has far, far, far, far, far more microbial flora than the urethra or the inside of a foreskin.

[Liriena]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

Animals lack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct. Animals are animals. That's why we call them animals. I suppose if humans were eating one another because animals did, that would be natural too?

Most, if not all human acts are inherently natural, since they require our bodies to enable them, and the human body works through natural laws.

The problem with your argument is... natural law has nothing ethical about it. It's just natural law, non-sapient and pretty much aimless. It's not meant to foster "morally good" behaviour. It only serves to maintain and transform our Universe according to certain rules and conditions.

[Luveria]

You know that women urinate from their vaginas right?

not quite, luv

It was a simplification.

Do you really want to be sticking your penis in the hole babies come out of...?
*shudders*

[Luveria]

You know that women urinate from their vaginas right?

No, they don't.

But they menstruate, and the vagina has far, far, far, far, far more microbial flora than the urethra or the inside of a foreskin.

Even worse, sticking your rod where blood comes out of once a month...

[Furious Grandmothers]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

You were saying if it's natural...?

Animals lack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct. Animals are animals. That's why we call them animals. I suppose if humans were eating one another because animals did, that would be natural too?

You're saying peoplelack sapience, law, culture, morals, religion, and run on instinct?

[Vashta Nerada]

Thanks for utterly disregarding the established historical fact that LGBT people were, throughout history, imprisoned, tortured, raped and killed throughout the world, and in many countries still are. Thanks for disregarding the thousands of LGBT people who were killed alongside Jews and Romani during the Holocaust, or those that perished under the hands of the Church during the Middle Ages and the European colonization of America and the Pacific. Thank you very fucking much.

Yes. Tens of thousands of gays and lesbians compared to the millions of Jews and tens of millions of Africans killed over the same period of time. And I'm not entirely sure there were that many gays in the Americas and Pacific. I've heard of the tiny fringe culture that numbered in the hundreds that permitted such behavior. That is another interesting fact. If homosexuality was so "natural", why were so many cultures, even the more enlightened ones, so opposed to it. Surely they understood that two men or two women having sex with one another was wrong. Children know its wrong off the bat. My cousins (younger than 12) all said it was wrong and their parents said nothing about it to them before that.