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Nigeria's economy is going to be pretty bad now that everyone is going to tell that prince to go fuck himself and the homophobic horse he rode in on.

First Uganda, now this. Another African country is continuing down the path of extremism.

Keventle wrote:

Ostroeuropa wrote:
As I explained, donations are tax deductable.
This would only effect profits.

We don't keep profits. It gose to schools and charities

Charitable donations are deducted out of taxes.

Nope, this should not affect our international relations with Nigeria.

Democracy can be pretty ugly sometimes. Anti-homosexuality isn't really "extremism" on the world stage; it might be here, but 90% of Nigerians, as well as 90% of Russians, for instance, are completely opposed to allowing homosexuality - that's mainstream behavior over there.

Geilinor wrote:First Uganda, now this. Another African country is continuing down the path of extremism.

It won't stop until all of Africa has homosexuality outlawed. The Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims forcing Sharia law aren't going to rest until they have full control of Africa. Maybe it's a good time to drop pro-Atheism materials from a plane.

The Serbian Empire wrote:

Geilinor wrote:First Uganda, now this. Another African country is continuing down the path of extremism.

It won't stop until all of Africa has homosexuality outlawed. The Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims forcing Sharia law aren't going to rest until they have full control of Africa. Maybe it's a good time to drop pro-Atheism materials from a plane.

Better yet, just drop pro-Atheism politicians from a plane to democratically take control of the nation.

The Serbian Empire wrote:

Geilinor wrote:First Uganda, now this. Another African country is continuing down the path of extremism.

It won't stop until all of Africa has homosexuality outlawed. The Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims forcing Sharia law aren't going to rest until they have full control of Africa. Maybe it's a good time to drop pro-Atheism materials from a plane.

Thinking you're gonna convert anyone with so half-assed a method.

Christianity and Islam both have huge networks of missionaries and tradition on their side in Africa. Pro-atheism leaflets would only be useful for alleviating toilet paper shortages.

And people think that LGBT rights are progressing. The world is really regressing.

And, of course, nobody is going to do jack shit about Nigeria because they have oil and nobody would have the balls to condemn them because of it.

Bezombia wrote:

The Serbian Empire wrote:It won't stop until all of Africa has homosexuality outlawed. The Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims forcing Sharia law aren't going to rest until they have full control of Africa. Maybe it's a good time to drop pro-Atheism materials from a plane.

Better yet, just drop pro-Atheism politicians from a plane to democratically take control of the nation.

Won't work as well due to 90+% being religious fundamentalists in places like Nigeria.

Khorsun wrote:

The Serbian Empire wrote:It won't stop until all of Africa has homosexuality outlawed. The Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims forcing Sharia law aren't going to rest until they have full control of Africa. Maybe it's a good time to drop pro-Atheism materials from a plane.

Thinking you're gonna convert anyone with so half-assed a method.

Christianity and Islam both have huge networks of missionaries and tradition on their side in Africa. Pro-atheism leaflets would only be useful for alleviating toilet paper shortages.

Send pro-atheism materials along with condoms and food, and let them compare that to the people just sending Bibles to them.

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:And people think that LGBT rights are progressing. The world is really regressing.

And, of course, nobody is going to do jack shit about Nigeria because they have oil and nobody would have the balls to condemn them because of it.

Or perhaps because the world has just written Africa off entirely.

Bezombia wrote:

The Serbian Empire wrote:It won't stop until all of Africa has homosexuality outlawed. The Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims forcing Sharia law aren't going to rest until they have full control of Africa. Maybe it's a good time to drop pro-Atheism materials from a plane.

Better yet, just drop pro-Atheism politicians from a plane to democratically take control of the nation.

Nah, drop atheist missionaries. Or possibly just pro-homosexuality Christian ones, since they would have an easier time.

Khorsun wrote:

The Serbian Empire wrote:It won't stop until all of Africa has homosexuality outlawed. The Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims forcing Sharia law aren't going to rest until they have full control of Africa. Maybe it's a good time to drop pro-Atheism materials from a plane.

Thinking you're gonna convert anyone with so half-assed a method.

Christianity and Islam both have huge networks of missionaries and tradition on their side in Africa. Pro-atheism leaflets would only be useful for alleviating toilet paper shortages.

Missionary work for atheism would end up turning into a religion which needs far better organization than a scattering of unaffiliated atheists.

Utceforp wrote:

Khorsun wrote:

Thinking you're gonna convert anyone with so half-assed a method.

Christianity and Islam both have huge networks of missionaries and tradition on their side in Africa. Pro-atheism leaflets would only be useful for alleviating toilet paper shortages.

Send pro-atheism materials along with condoms and food, and let them compare that to the people just sending Bibles to them.

Except that the fundamentalists are also building hospitals, schools, etc. It's part of why they're so successful: everyone likes them for the hospitals and schools, and so they trust them on the theology.

Khorsun wrote:Nope, this should not affect our international relations with Nigeria.

Democracy can be pretty ugly sometimes. Anti-homosexuality isn't really "extremism" on the world stage; it might be here, but 90% of Nigerians, as well as 90% of Russians, for instance, are completely opposed to allowing homosexuality - that's mainstream behavior over there.

Homosexuality itself is not illegal in Russia.

I'm so pissed off I'm actually speechless. This law only adds insult to the injury of Sharia law in certain regions, it serves no purpose other than pander to the mindless bloodthirst of individuals who I'm quite certain understand little to nothing about LGBT issues, and its effects will only be negative.

Congratu-fucking-lations, Nigeria. You fucked it up.

The Sotoan Union wrote:I like Nigeria.

I dislike you.

Geilinor wrote:

Khorsun wrote:Nope, this should not affect our international relations with Nigeria.

Democracy can be pretty ugly sometimes. Anti-homosexuality isn't really "extremism" on the world stage; it might be here, but 90% of Nigerians, as well as 90% of Russians, for instance, are completely opposed to allowing homosexuality - that's mainstream behavior over there.

Homosexuality itself is not illegal in Russia.

Furthermore, claiming that banning homosexuality is not extremism on the world stage is awfully dishonest.

Liriena wrote:

Geilinor wrote:Homosexuality itself is not illegal in Russia.

Furthermore, claiming that banning homosexuality is not extremism on the world stage is awfully dishonest.

On the Western stage, it is for sure. Banning homosexuality would be shocking in Denmark, for sure. Not so shocking in Nigeria, though. The whole world does not share the same values as you.

Caught me over generalizing on Russia, there, I was writing a little too fast. What I meant there was that the overwhelming majority of Russians oppose the advancement of gay rights and support Putin's new law.

Get ready to see a trend, folks. Cracking down on the homosexuals is the new way to show yourself apart from the West, which much of the world is eager to do, now that the West has reached a consensus on being nice to the gays.

Khorsun wrote:

Liriena wrote:Furthermore, claiming that banning homosexuality is not extremism on the world stage is awfully dishonest.

On the Western stage, it is for sure. Banning homosexuality would be shocking in Denmark, for sure. Not so shocking in Nigeria, though. The whole world does not share the same values as you.

Caught me over generalizing on Russia, there, I was writing a little too fast. What I meant there was that the overwhelming majority of Russians oppose the advancement of gay rights and support Putin's new law.

Get ready to see a trend, folks. Cracking down on the homosexuals is the new way to show yourself apart from the West, which much of the world is eager to do, now that the West has reached a consensus on being nice to the gays.

Except that, going by sheer numbers, the majority of the world's nations at the very least keep homosexuality legal, including the world's most populated nation and the three most economically powerful, and while India recently re-criminalized it, its government is already on its way to legalizing it. Recent moves in Russia and Africa are little more than 'manotazos de ahogado', reactionaries desperately attempting to cling onto laws and social norms that the international community frowns upon with increasing disdain.

Khorsun wrote:

Liriena wrote:Furthermore, claiming that banning homosexuality is not extremism on the world stage is awfully dishonest.

On the Western stage, it is for sure. Banning homosexuality would be shocking in Denmark, for sure. Not so shocking in Nigeria, though. The whole world does not share the same values as you.

Homosexuality is perfectly legal in many non-Western countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory The map available on the following website of the countries where male to male relationships are legal, while slightly outdated, shows that homosexuality is permitted in the majority of countries. http://ilga.org/ You are being dishonest. This isn't about Western vs. other cultures, it's about humanity.

God bless Nigeria!

Take a look at the colors of the map again in Africa, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and Asia, and compare to the colors you see in the Americas, Western Europe, and the Anglosphere.


Are you telling me you can't see the readily apparent patterns there?

Khorsun wrote:Take a look at the colors of the map again in Africa, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and Asia, and compare to the colors you see in the Americas, Western Europe, and the Anglosphere.


Are you telling me you can't see the readily apparent patterns there?

The only readily apparent patterns are in the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and some parts of Africa.

Khorsun wrote:Take a look at the colors of the map again in Africa, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and Asia, and compare to the colors you see in the Americas, Western Europe, and the Anglosphere.


Are you telling me you can't see the readily apparent patterns there?

Patterns suggesting what? That the amount of pro-LGBT citizens and politicians in certain countries is still too small and lacking in influence to produce a change in very old laws?

Empire of Narnia wrote:God bless Nigeria!

Why would he bless a bunch of horsewhipping homophobes?