Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Ostroeuropa]

No, it isn't.
The ammendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.

Which means tax breaks for churches breaks the ammendment.
Taxing a church on it's profits isn't prohibiting free expression either.

Churches would close and soon you have a sudden angry mob.

Bullshit would churches close. It's a very profitable venture, even with taxes.
Oh boohoo they no longer wanna make money?

[Keventle]

taxing religion is establishing against religion. the state is interfering of practice

No, it isn't.
The ammendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.

Which means tax breaks for churches breaks the ammendment.
Taxing a church on it's profits isn't prohibiting free expression either.

So you will be taxing churches, and churches are area of practice. Some churches would not stay afloat and suddenly you are preventing practice of religion.

[Benuty]

No, it isn't.
The ammendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.

Which means tax breaks for churches breaks the ammendment.
Taxing a church on it's profits isn't prohibiting free expression either.

Churches would close and soon you have a sudden angry mob.

Because the money that didn't go into Charity and Social services is that much?

[Shaggai]

I like Nigeria.

I prefer human rights.

[Ostroeuropa]

No, it isn't.
The ammendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.

Which means tax breaks for churches breaks the ammendment.
Taxing a church on it's profits isn't prohibiting free expression either.

So you will be taxing churches, and churches are area of practice. Some churches would not stay afloat and suddenly you are preventing practice of religion.

You tax profits. If it's going under, it isn't going to get taxed.

[Molsonian Republics]

It's stemming from Western Evangelists, unfortunately.
They've lost the battle here and thrown their toys out of the pram before stomping off to africa where there are more social problems and poverty as well as bad education and political instability.
The best thing we could do is start taxing religion, and export over some atheists.

Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.

Exactly, and if religion is taxed, less money from the church's income will be going to charities such as homeless shelters, child care, etc.

[Keventle]

Churches would close and soon you have a sudden angry mob.

Bullshit would churches close. It's a very profitable venture, even with taxes.
Oh boohoo they no longer wanna make money?

you are just taking away donations to the poor. The church uses the money for maintenance and donations. What will they cut first? Donations.

[Ostroeuropa]

Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.

Exactly, and if religion is taxed, less money from the church's income will be going to charities such as homeless shelters, child care, etc.

Those are tax deductable.
If a church uses all it's money on charity it pays no tax.
If it uses half it's money on charity, the other half can be taxed.
It's actually forcing them to live up to this bullshit line they've fed you about charity, or at least pay taxes on their lie.

[Ostroeuropa]

Bullshit would churches close. It's a very profitable venture, even with taxes.
Oh boohoo they no longer wanna make money?

you are just taking away donations to the poor. The church uses the money for maintenance and donations. What will they cut first? Donations.

As I explained, donations are tax deductable.
This would only effect profits.

[Keventle]

So you will be taxing churches, and churches are area of practice. Some churches would not stay afloat and suddenly you are preventing practice of religion.

You tax profits. If it's going under, it isn't going to get taxed.

When is the tax enough? How much of the tax? What if other religions get taxed more? What would happen if churches closes and thats the only one in the area. You would just start a huge argument on the constitution.

[Keventle]

you are just taking away donations to the poor. The church uses the money for maintenance and donations. What will they cut first? Donations.

As I explained, donations are tax deductable.
This would only effect profits.

We don't keep profits. It gose to schools and charities

[Keventle]

Exactly, and if religion is taxed, less money from the church's income will be going to charities such as homeless shelters, child care, etc.

Those are tax deductable.
If a church uses all it's money on charity it pays no tax.
If it uses half it's money on charity, the other half can be taxed.
It's actually forcing them to live up to this bullshit line they've fed you about charity, or at least pay taxes on their lie.

then churches will send all to charity, then there is no benefit. End of story

[Ruridova]

This thread will either end in a gay marriage debate, or a flood of bigots coming to the thread, praising Nigeria. Or both.

Both, probably.

[Ostroeuropa]

As I explained, donations are tax deductable.
This would only effect profits.

We don't keep profits. It gose to schools and charities

Then you don't get taxed.
Whats hard about this for you to understand?

Are you denying there are churches that are simply profit organizations? Because I'd love to be that faithful in humanity again.

[Ostroeuropa]

Those are tax deductable.
If a church uses all it's money on charity it pays no tax.
If it uses half it's money on charity, the other half can be taxed.
It's actually forcing them to live up to this bullshit line they've fed you about charity, or at least pay taxes on their lie.

then churches will send all to charity, then there is no benefit. End of story

Yeh there is a benefit.
The tax would force them to send it all to charity or pay the tax. Something a lot of them currently don't do.
Seriously, do you not get that?

[Molsonian Republics]

Exactly, and if religion is taxed, less money from the church's income will be going to charities such as homeless shelters, child care, etc.

Those are tax deductable.
If a church uses all it's money on charity it pays no tax.
If it uses half it's money on charity, the other half can be taxed.
It's actually forcing them to live up to this bullshit line they've fed you about charity, or at least pay taxes on their lie.

What about the money required to run the church, if that's taxed, less money will be going to charity.

[Ostroeuropa]

You tax profits. If it's going under, it isn't going to get taxed.

When is the tax enough? How much of the tax? What if other religions get taxed more? What would happen if churches closes and thats the only one in the area. You would just start a huge argument on the constitution.

A corporation tax seems sufficient.
If other religions get taxed more it's because they are doing less charity.
A church couldn't close from just the corporation tax.

[Ostroeuropa]

Those are tax deductable.
If a church uses all it's money on charity it pays no tax.
If it uses half it's money on charity, the other half can be taxed.
It's actually forcing them to live up to this bullshit line they've fed you about charity, or at least pay taxes on their lie.

What about the money required to run the church, if that's taxed, less money will be going to charity.

Neither of you two have ever filed taxes on a business have you.
Your profits are what you have left at the end of the year after all upkeep.

[Shaggai]

Those are tax deductable.
If a church uses all it's money on charity it pays no tax.
If it uses half it's money on charity, the other half can be taxed.
It's actually forcing them to live up to this bullshit line they've fed you about charity, or at least pay taxes on their lie.

then churches will send all to charity, then there is no benefit. End of story

There is a benefit. Charities now have money. See?

[Benuty]

then churches will send all to charity, then there is no benefit. End of story

There is a benefit. Charities now have money. See?

Why would you want to close all the underground church gambling rings?

[Furious Grandmothers]

This thread will either end in a gay marriage debate, or a flood of bigots coming to the thread, praising Nigeria. Or both.

Both, probably.

All bets are off, guys. Looks like we have a threadjack into taxing churches. Do not pass go, do not collect ₦200.

[Ostroeuropa]

Both, probably.

All bets are off, guys. Looks like we have a threadjack into taxing churches. Do not pass go, do not collect ₦200.

The churches having excess funding led pretty directly to this kind of problem.
It means they can fund insane escapades like this. Or donate to political candidates. How "Charitable."

Couple that with the special privileges the religious receive in society and it's no wonder they feel entitled to do this kind of shit in Nigeria.

[Regnum Dominae]

Those are tax deductable.
If a church uses all it's money on charity it pays no tax.
If it uses half it's money on charity, the other half can be taxed.
It's actually forcing them to live up to this bullshit line they've fed you about charity, or at least pay taxes on their lie.

What about the money required to run the church, if that's taxed, less money will be going to charity.

Do you not know how taxes work? Profits are taxed. Not operating costs.

[Ponderosa]

You tax profits. If it's going under, it isn't going to get taxed.

When is the tax enough? How much of the tax? What if other religions get taxed more? What would happen if churches closes and thats the only one in the area. You would just start a huge argument on the constitution.

That and churches are nonprofit, kind of like political groups that get tax-exempt status. When people advocate taxing churches for preaching politics, they seem to forget this.

[The Serbian Empire]

I smell bullshit.

Eh. The man has a point. Human rights are just that. Human. They are man made. Man giveth and man taketh away.

That being said.

Human rights are given to ALL humans, or they should be. So this is a no no. Also I have the Prince of Nigeria's email if you want it. He keeps sending me messages about winning a lottery.

You mean the President's brother, Badluck Jonathan?