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Postby Benuty » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:09 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
Othelos wrote:

They don't tend to use them.

Do you know this first hand?
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:10 pm

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Keventle wrote:Adolf Hitler was a hijacker who didn't practice christianity when he was older. Its like the Muslim terrorists today who hijacked the religion and made it into this propaganda and cult for recruitment of new members. Muslims (real Muslims) will swear to you terrorists are not muslim because suicide is illegal in their religion.

You're just proving my point, which is that it's a bad idea to treat anything religious as the Infallible Word of God, because then you have people like Hitler and Bin Laden who sincerely believe that the horrible things they do are right, and who will use religion as a means to an end to encourage support.


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Postby God Kefka » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:10 pm

Well... it's Africa so I'm not really that surprised...
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:10 pm

It's stemming from Western Evangelists, unfortunately.
They've lost the battle here and thrown their toys out of the pram before stomping off to africa where there are more social problems and poverty as well as bad education and political instability.
The best thing we could do is start taxing religion, and export over some atheists.
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Postby Utceforp » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:10 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
Othelos wrote:

They don't tend to use them.

Source?
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Postby Molsonian Republics » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:10 pm

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Molsonian Republics wrote:I'm not saying no gays use condoms, I'm saying most of them don't.

1) That's not what you said.
2) How do you know this? Any evidence?

1. It was implied
2. How else would the rate of gays who have AIDS be much higher than the rate of straight people who have it.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:10 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
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They don't tend to use them.

PROVE. IT.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:11 pm

God Kefka wrote:Well... it's Africa so I'm not really that surprised...

Not all of Africa is completely nutters on the scale of sanity.
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Postby Othelos » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:11 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
Othelos wrote:

They don't tend to use them.

Source, please.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:12 pm

Molsonian Republics wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:1) That's not what you said.
2) How do you know this? Any evidence?

1. It was implied
2. How else would the rate of gays who have AIDS be much higher than the rate of straight people who have it.

HIV is highly common among straights as well (AIDS is the final form of it).
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Postby Benuty » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:12 pm

Othelos wrote:
Molsonian Republics wrote:They don't tend to use them.

Source, please.

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Postby Keventle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:12 pm

Norstal wrote:
Keventle wrote:nope its not but its the big duel of Religion vs Cvil rights vs. Religion
please do stop putting my words in my mouth to get me mad or angry, or what ever your trying to do. If you believe that its not religious people not wanting same sex marriage then who is? Of course someone is opposing, because this wouldn't be an issue then

What? So you just post here to point out something so obvious?

you disagreed with what is obvious. Besides has this issue gone any where? no. I was stating is futile to argue with religion vs Civil rights.

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Postby Bezombia » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:13 pm

This thread is just one trainwreck after another.
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:13 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:It's stemming from Western Evangelists, unfortunately.
They've lost the battle here and thrown their toys out of the pram before stomping off to africa where there are more social problems and poverty as well as bad education and political instability.
The best thing we could do is start taxing religion, and export over some atheists.

Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:14 pm

Bezombia wrote:This thread is just one trainwreck after another.

There would have to be a train to wreck in the first place. It didn't even come to the station yet.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:14 pm

Keventle wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:It's stemming from Western Evangelists, unfortunately.
They've lost the battle here and thrown their toys out of the pram before stomping off to africa where there are more social problems and poverty as well as bad education and political instability.
The best thing we could do is start taxing religion, and export over some atheists.

Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.


I don't see how at all. Provided they are taxed under the same rules.
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:14 pm

Bezombia wrote:This thread is just one trainwreck after another.

that exploded and caused an earthquake.

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Postby San » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:14 pm

Keventle wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:It's stemming from Western Evangelists, unfortunately.
They've lost the battle here and thrown their toys out of the pram before stomping off to africa where there are more social problems and poverty as well as bad education and political instability.
The best thing we could do is start taxing religion, and export over some atheists.

Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.

and of course, america is the whole world!
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:15 pm

Keventle wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:It's stemming from Western Evangelists, unfortunately.
They've lost the battle here and thrown their toys out of the pram before stomping off to africa where there are more social problems and poverty as well as bad education and political instability.
The best thing we could do is start taxing religion, and export over some atheists.

Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.

No, it doesn't.

Not taxing religious organizations, on the other hand...
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:15 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Keventle wrote:Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.


I don't see how at all.

taxing religion is establishing against religion. the state is interfering of practice

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:16 pm

Keventle wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
I don't see how at all.

taxing religion is establishing against religion. the state is interfering of practice


No, it isn't.
The ammendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.

Which means tax breaks for churches breaks the ammendment.
Taxing a church on it's profits isn't prohibiting free expression either.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:16 pm

Nigeria? Deny rights to anybody?? What a shocker!
it is my firm belief that I should never have to justify my beliefs.

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Postby Keventle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:16 pm

San wrote:
Keventle wrote:Taxing religion interferes with the first amendment right.

and of course, america is the whole world!

I was guessing she was american since this game has a huge portion of americans

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Postby Keventle » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:18 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Keventle wrote:taxing religion is establishing against religion. the state is interfering of practice


No, it isn't.
The ammendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.

Which means tax breaks for churches breaks the ammendment.
Taxing a church on it's profits isn't prohibiting free expression either.


Churches would close and soon you have a sudden angry mob.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:20 pm

There must be a word for the combination of terrible disappointment coupled with a total lack of surprise...
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