Nigeria denies fundamental rights to homosexuals

[Liriena]

Again, evolution doesn't optimize.

No, it only supports one group's statements, and then when they run into a wall they can't explain, "evolution didn't optimize this." If it can't optimize, then why so many detailed traits in humans? Either it did or it didn't optimize. Your point is moot.

Natural selection only determines which mutations will be carried onto the next generation. It sets a "lowest common denominator" of sorts for all living creatures. It doesn't arbitrarily hand specific species specific advantages. The detailed traits in humans were the product of a long process of our species adapting to an ever-changing enviroment. Natural selection doesn't aim to make every single aspect of our lives easy.

Furthermore, even if anal sex without lubrication may cause injuries, that does not change the fact that it is, by definition, natural. It's physically possible, and perfectly natural neurological processes drive us to it. Whether it's morally good or not is another matter entirely. Something being natural doesn't make it morally good.

Your grasp of your arguments, and those of your opponents, is severely lacking.

[Vashta Nerada]

He ignored at least 10 of my posts.

I'm not even going to bother spending 20 minutes compiling all the posts he ignored, just so he can ignore that post.

ignoring things while having responded to them, however, is an art form he thrives in.

You speak as if you know, which you don't. The fact that I ignored ten of your posts means that I didn't see them or I was too busy responding to another. This clearly shows your bias. I don't support you, so you attack me personally. An art-form of your's I suppose?

[Liriena]

You don't understand evolution basics.

Evolution doesn't need to optimize, ever. Evolution is merely organisms gradually adapting to survive in their environment. Nowhere is optimization required for that.

So evolution doesn't need to optimize as its geared toward survival. Then why can enjoy one form of sex, but not enjoy another form of sex that we also consider enjoyable?

Because every life form is unique, and can have different responses to certain stimuli.

[Luveria]

Silly Luv, answering every post is "unnatural." Because people weren't meant to multitask.

Your attacking one guy who's trying to respond to six. That's kinda difficult. Your not multitasking, your just sharing the "burden".

I am most certainly multitasking.

You don't understand evolution basics.

Evolution doesn't need to optimize, ever. Evolution is merely organisms gradually adapting to survive in their environment. Nowhere is optimization required for that.

So evolution doesn't need to optimize as its geared toward survival. Then why can enjoy one form of sex, but not enjoy another form of sex that we also consider enjoyable?

Because things are the way they are. It doesn't need a reason. It simply is.

[The Scientific States]

ignoring things while having responded to them, however, is an art form he thrives in.

You speak as if you know, which you don't. The fact that I ignored ten of your posts means that I didn't see them or I was too busy responding to another. This clearly shows your bias. I don't support you, so you attack me personally. An art-form of your's I suppose?

I didn't attack you personally. You on the other hand, have attacked every LGBT person on this planet.

[Liriena]

Ask in moderation.

What is Patagonia?

Paradise.

[Vashta Nerada]

No, it only supports one group's statements, and then when they run into a wall they can't explain, "evolution didn't optimize this." If it can't optimize, then why so many detailed traits in humans? Either it did or it didn't optimize. Your point is moot.

Natural selection only determines which mutations will be carried onto the next generation. It sets a "lowest common denominator" of sorts for all living creatures. It doesn't arbitrarily hand specific species specific advantages. The detailed traits in humans were the product of a long process of our species adapting to an ever-changing enviroment. Natural selection doesn't aim to make every single aspect of our lives easy.

Furthermore, even if anal sex without lubrication may cause injuries, that does not change the fact that it is, by definition, natural. It's physically possible, and perfectly natural neurological processes drive us to it. Whether it's morally good or not is another matter entirely. Something being natural doesn't make it morally good.

Your grasp of your arguments, and those of your opponents, is severely lacking.

No. My patience is. You state that evolution only provided what we needed, yet we possess many that we don't need. I'm rather confused by your line of reasoning.

[Luveria]

Natural selection only determines which mutations will be carried onto the next generation. It sets a "lowest common denominator" of sorts for all living creatures. It doesn't arbitrarily hand specific species specific advantages. The detailed traits in humans were the product of a long process of our species adapting to an ever-changing enviroment. Natural selection doesn't aim to make every single aspect of our lives easy.

Furthermore, even if anal sex without lubrication may cause injuries, that does not change the fact that it is, by definition, natural. It's physically possible, and perfectly natural neurological processes drive us to it. Whether it's morally good or not is another matter entirely. Something being natural doesn't make it morally good.

Your grasp of your arguments, and those of your opponents, is severely lacking.

No. My patience is. You state that evolution only provided what we needed, yet we possess many that we don't need. I'm rather confused by your line of reasoning.

Because evolution has no requirement to eliminate unnecessary developments.

[Markostania]

What is Patagonia?

Paradise.

Good. Stay in the pampas to feed the cows.

[Liriena]

Natural selection only determines which mutations will be carried onto the next generation. It sets a "lowest common denominator" of sorts for all living creatures. It doesn't arbitrarily hand specific species specific advantages. The detailed traits in humans were the product of a long process of our species adapting to an ever-changing enviroment. Natural selection doesn't aim to make every single aspect of our lives easy.

Furthermore, even if anal sex without lubrication may cause injuries, that does not change the fact that it is, by definition, natural. It's physically possible, and perfectly natural neurological processes drive us to it. Whether it's morally good or not is another matter entirely. Something being natural doesn't make it morally good.

Your grasp of your arguments, and those of your opponents, is severely lacking.

No. My patience is. You state that evolution only provided what we needed, yet we possess many that we don't need. I'm rather confused by your line of reasoning.

What traits we "don't need" are still there because they did not impede us from surviving. Natural selection eliminates traits that hinder the perpetuation or evolution of a species, not all traits that are not directly beneficial.

[Shaggai]

Natural selection only determines which mutations will be carried onto the next generation. It sets a "lowest common denominator" of sorts for all living creatures. It doesn't arbitrarily hand specific species specific advantages. The detailed traits in humans were the product of a long process of our species adapting to an ever-changing enviroment. Natural selection doesn't aim to make every single aspect of our lives easy.

Furthermore, even if anal sex without lubrication may cause injuries, that does not change the fact that it is, by definition, natural. It's physically possible, and perfectly natural neurological processes drive us to it. Whether it's morally good or not is another matter entirely. Something being natural doesn't make it morally good.

Your grasp of your arguments, and those of your opponents, is severely lacking.

No. My patience is. You state that evolution only provided what we needed, yet we possess many that we don't need. I'm rather confused by your line of reasoning.

Evolution does random stuff. It then gets rid of the harmful stuff. Just because evolution didn't provide something doesn't mean that it's harmful, though. Just that it never happened. And just because something happens doesn't mean it's helpful. Just that it isn't harmful enough to get selected against.

[Vashta Nerada]

No. My patience is. You state that evolution only provided what we needed, yet we possess many that we don't need. I'm rather confused by your line of reasoning.

What traits we "don't need" are still there because they did not impede us from surviving. Natural selection eliminates traits that hinder the perpetuation or evolution of a species, not all traits that are not directly beneficial.

I really think having my appendix explode impedes my chances of surviving.

[Divair]

What traits we "don't need" are still there because they did not impede us from surviving. Natural selection eliminates traits that hinder the perpetuation or evolution of a species, not all traits that are not directly beneficial.

I really think having my appendix explode impedes my chances of surviving.

The number of people who die from exploding appendixes isn't high enough to lower their birth rate.

[Vashta Nerada]

No. My patience is. You state that evolution only provided what we needed, yet we possess many that we don't need. I'm rather confused by your line of reasoning.

Evolution does random stuff. It then gets rid of the harmful stuff. Just because evolution didn't provide something doesn't mean that it's harmful, though. Just that it never happened. And just because something happens doesn't mean it's helpful. Just that it isn't harmful enough to get selected against.

Right. So evolution is a magical force that magically and randomly does stuff that we can't explain. I don't see how this is any different from what god/the gods does/do.

[Unitaristic Regions]

Evolution does random stuff. It then gets rid of the harmful stuff. Just because evolution didn't provide something doesn't mean that it's harmful, though. Just that it never happened. And just because something happens doesn't mean it's helpful. Just that it isn't harmful enough to get selected against.

Right. So evolution is a magical force that magically and randomly does stuff that we can't explain. I don't see how this is any different from what god/the gods does/do.

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There's nothing magical about it.

[Liriena]

Paradise.

Good. Stay in the pampas to feed the cows.

Pampas =/= Patagonia

Furthermore, I don't feed cows. I'm a Social Communications student and amateur writer with a penchant for dryly witty pedantery and an insatiable thirst for exotic knowledge.

I also occasionally write yaoi stories and, as my signature indicates, I am Condunum's loving mate.

[Vashta Nerada]

I really think having my appendix explode impedes my chances of surviving.

The number of people who die from exploding appendixes isn't high enough to lower their birth rate.

Then if that is the case, why have't humans developed a hide of thick skin to protect us from bullets/arrows/spear/insults? Evolution had more than 10,000 years for that right?

[Liriena]

What traits we "don't need" are still there because they did not impede us from surviving. Natural selection eliminates traits that hinder the perpetuation or evolution of a species, not all traits that are not directly beneficial.

I really think having my appendix explode impedes my chances of surviving.

That's the thing about humans: we have a tendency to ignore natural selection.

[Divair]

The number of people who die from exploding appendixes isn't high enough to lower their birth rate.

Then if that is the case, why have't humans developed a hide of thick skin to protect us from bullets/arrows/insults?

No such mutation has occurred and spread through the population far enough for it to become standard. This is all middle school level biology.

[Vashta Nerada]

Right. So evolution is a magical force that magically and randomly does stuff that we can't explain. I don't see how this is any different from what god/the gods does/do.

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There's nothing magical about it.

Except for the "theory" part. Once you wish that away, then I'll start to except it as fact.

[Gravlen]

The number of people who die from exploding appendixes isn't high enough to lower their birth rate.

Then if that is the case, why have't humans developed a hide of thick skin to protect us from bullets/arrows/spear/insults? Evolution had more than 10,000 years for that right?

*sigh*

Because that's not how evolution works.

[Divair]

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There's nothing magical about it.

Except for the "theory" part.

Scientific theories aren't magical. Is gravity magical? Are germs magical?

[Vashta Nerada]

Then if that is the case, why have't humans developed a hide of thick skin to protect us from bullets/arrows/insults?

No such mutation has occurred and spread through the population far enough for it to become standard. This is all middle school level biology.

Wait. So warfare and murder isn't a world-wide issue that evolution hasn't noticed yet? I'm sure rape is a huge deal. Surely women should have some response to that.

[Vashta Nerada]

Except for the "theory" part.

Scientific theories aren't magical. Is gravity magical? Are germs magical?

Nope, but evolution surely is.

[Gravlen]

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There's nothing magical about it.

Except for the "theory" part. Once you wish that away, then I'll start to except it as fact.

If you're going to demonstrate your ignorance, please be ignorant on topic.