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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:13 pm

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Stop. Its the symbol, idc what the wack jobs believe, thats their deal, Satan,himself, is an emblem of darkness.


You have demonstrated no knowledge of the subject. Go learn a bit, and then come back and talk.


You know what, why don't you toss back an argument instead of attempting to invalidate mine own.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:19 pm

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You have demonstrated no knowledge of the subject. Go learn a bit, and then come back and talk.


You know what, why don't you toss back an argument instead of attempting to invalidate mine own.


I and others have.We have pointed out that every single assumption you have made is incorrect, yet you still keep making them. You know nothing about Satanism, and apparently cannot be bothered to learn anything about the subject.
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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:22 pm

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You know what, why don't you toss back an argument instead of attempting to invalidate mine own.


I and others have.We have pointed out that every single assumption you have made is incorrect, yet you still keep making them. You know nothing about Satanism, and apparently cannot be bothered to learn anything about the subject.



Because that is irrelevant, Satan in and of itself is evil. Ask any priest. Caught on yet?
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Postby Kingdoms of Cal » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:22 pm

An xian is basically someone you would not insult the name of Christ or mohamid (sp...well there are a lot of ways to spell it) by associating their name with what ever the person is saying. Thus the use of x in place of said respected person.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:27 pm

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I and others have.We have pointed out that every single assumption you have made is incorrect, yet you still keep making them. You know nothing about Satanism, and apparently cannot be bothered to learn anything about the subject.



Because that is irrelevant, Satan in and of itself is evil. Ask any priest. Caught on yet?

Priests are not a reliable source of information on the topic.

Speaking as a Christian, I'd advise you to use other sources to identify the differences between theistic Satanism (which is highly uncommon to my knowledge) and LeVeyan Satanism (which is more prevalent).
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:28 pm

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I and others have.We have pointed out that every single assumption you have made is incorrect, yet you still keep making them. You know nothing about Satanism, and apparently cannot be bothered to learn anything about the subject.



Because that is irrelevant, Satan in and of itself is evil. Ask any priest. Caught on yet?


Priest of what religion? There are many to chose from, including my own.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:29 pm

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Because that is irrelevant, Satan in and of itself is evil. Ask any priest. Caught on yet?

Priests are not a reliable source of information on the topic.

Speaking as a Christian, I'd advise you to use other sources to identify the differences between theistic Satanism (which is highly uncommon to my knowledge) and LeVeyan Satanism (which is more prevalent).

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Jesus would say turn the other cheek. Then he'd have a trident embedded in his arse.

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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:00 pm

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Because that is irrelevant, Satan in and of itself is evil. Ask any priest. Caught on yet?


Priest of what religion? There are many to chose from, including my own.



I have now realized this isn't an act you are creating but you are actually fairly well educated, while remaining to be naive. I read an entry on Satanism, like I said before, it changes none of my opinion, worshiping the devil is still vile and wrong. It can only be a sickness of the mind that drives a person to believe these things.

You cannot change what satan represents, simply because you have doubts about God. Go ahead and view god in your way, but satan represents the worst aspects of humanity.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:03 pm

Norstal wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Priests are not a reliable source of information on the topic.

Speaking as a Christian, I'd advise you to use other sources to identify the differences between theistic Satanism (which is highly uncommon to my knowledge) and LeVeyan Satanism (which is more prevalent).

inb4 god says it's evil.

Why would you assume such a thing?
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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:08 pm

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Norstal wrote:inb4 god says it's evil.

Why would you assume such a thing?


because such a thing is true and always has and will be.
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Postby The European-British Union » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:08 pm

Satanists follow the Devil- pure evil and cruely.
Of course they ought to be shot!

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:12 pm

The Republic Of Ardenhelm wrote:
Benuty wrote:Why would you assume such a thing?


because such a thing is true and always has and will be.

Prove it.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:12 pm

The European-British Union wrote:Satanists follow the Devil- pure evil and cruely.
Of course they ought to be shot!

I do not think you know the difference between Satanism and worship of the actual angel (Satan). Satanism is very different (especially Theistic Satanism) than what people would like to think it is.
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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:12 pm

The European-British Union wrote:Satanists follow the Devil- pure evil and cruely.
Of course they ought to be shot!


Well... yes, but they are human however mislead. So that would be immoral.
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Postby The European-British Union » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:16 pm

The Republic Of Ardenhelm wrote:
The European-British Union wrote:Satanists follow the Devil- pure evil and cruely.
Of course they ought to be shot!


Well... yes, but they are human however mislead. So that would be immoral.

I wouldn't agree.
They are evil, and purely wicked. They should be eliminated.

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The European-British Union wrote:Satanists follow the Devil- pure evil and cruely.
Of course they ought to be shot!

I do not think you know the difference between Satanism and worship of the actual angel (Satan). Satanism is very different (especially Theistic Satanism) than what people would like to think it is.



This makes no difference, there is only one satan, worship "it" and be damned. My final words of warning, whether any of you "philosophers" want to believe is your end. I have done all I could do for you online, I am not even a church-goer.
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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:17 pm

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Well... yes, but they are human however mislead. So that would be immoral.

I wouldn't agree.
They are evil, and purely wicked. They should be eliminated.


I'm saying its your Christian duty to lead them back to the light.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:18 pm

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The Republic Of Ardenhelm wrote:
Well... yes, but they are human however mislead. So that would be immoral.

I wouldn't agree.
They are evil, and purely wicked. They should be eliminated.

Wow calling for death how very original/sarcasm.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:19 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:Let me say this:

I do not see the point, first of all, of a monument of the ten commandments in Oklahoma's capital but okay, whatever.

I agree with Alan in that there should be either no religious monuments on public property or there should be allowed all religious monuments, including Satanists.

Now, as for the opinions of the panel. I find it appalling they are making an opinion like this. I mean, were they ever taught any sense of research proficiency? It doesn't sound like someone from Mensa as FOX claims, let alone any reputable theologian/historian/etc would find this short of ludicrous to find Satanists as "evil". Not even WIkipedia does this stupid mistake.

As for your distinction between Xtians and Christians, up to you. It's your personal categorizations, so I really have no say in it.



No, no, no, no. Just because a Satanist is good and kind doesn't make putting a statue dedicated to evil ok. There is a REASON Christianity, Buddism, etc. exist. SO PEOPLE DON'T DO THINGS MEAN TO EACH OTHER! Putting up a statue dedicated to meanness is wrong, wrong for anyone. I'm not even a bible beater, but a Godly guy, sure, and you know what, find God in your own way, who needs a church? I go camping and pray, that's my bit of heaven, why would you stain earths precious soil with such filth?


Uhmm... First of all Satanists do not see Satan as evil incarnate, nor do any of the old Christians. They [Old Christians and Jews] view Satan as the accuser in front of God. This is an incorrect interpretation of Revelations as true and clear prophecy (it's not). The book of Job describes the role of the devil in more detail.

Putting up a statue in a government building of ANY religion is wrong in my opinion. Separation of church and state. Either we have ALL religions being able to put up a statue or we have NO religions put a statue in a government building.

Why, exactly, do the Ten Commandments have more validity than the statue of Buddha or, in this case, Satan?
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The Republic Of Ardenhelm wrote:
The European-British Union wrote:I wouldn't agree.
They are evil, and purely wicked. They should be eliminated.


I'm saying its your Christian duty to lead them back to the light.

Yes, but not the people who offer their souls to the Devil.
They CANNOT be forgiven.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:21 pm

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Big Jim P wrote:
Priest of what religion? There are many to chose from, including my own.



I have now realized this isn't an act you are creating but you are actually fairly well educated, while remaining to be naive. I read an entry on Satanism, like I said before, it changes none of my opinion, worshiping the devil is still vile and wrong. It can only be a sickness of the mind that drives a person to believe these things.

You cannot change what satan represents, simply because you have doubts about God. Go ahead and view god in your way, but satan represents the worst aspects of humanity.


Source that doesn't include Revelations please?
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:21 pm

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The Republic Of Ardenhelm wrote:
I'm saying its your Christian duty to lead them back to the light.

Yes, but not the people who offer their souls to the Devil.
They CANNOT be forgiven.

Yes, actually. They can.

I don't think you understand Christianity.
Or, for that matter, Satanism.
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Postby The Republic Of Ardenhelm » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:22 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Republic Of Ardenhelm wrote:

No, no, no, no. Just because a Satanist is good and kind doesn't make putting a statue dedicated to evil ok. There is a REASON Christianity, Buddism, etc. exist. SO PEOPLE DON'T DO THINGS MEAN TO EACH OTHER! Putting up a statue dedicated to meanness is wrong, wrong for anyone. I'm not even a bible beater, but a Godly guy, sure, and you know what, find God in your own way, who needs a church? I go camping and pray, that's my bit of heaven, why would you stain earths precious soil with such filth?


Uhmm... First of all Satanists do not see Satan as evil incarnate, nor do any of the old Christians. They view Satan as the accuser in front of God. This is an incorrect interpretation of Revelations as true and clear prophecy (it's not). The book of Job describes the role of the devil in more detail.

Putting up a statue in a government building of ANY religion is wrong in my opinion. Separation of church and state. Either we have ALL religions being able to put up a statue or we have NO religions put a statue in a government building.

Why, exactly, do the Ten Commandments have more validity than the statue of Buddha or, in this case, Satan?



...or just not Satanism
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:22 pm

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The Republic Of Ardenhelm wrote:
I'm saying its your Christian duty to lead them back to the light.

Yes, but not the people who offer their souls to the Devil.
They CANNOT be forgiven.


Props on your "Christian" nature.

Like, really 1500s there son.
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