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Which Olympic event is your favorite?

Ice Hockey
73
32%
Curing
19
8%
Speed Skating/Short Track
9
4%
Figure Skating
20
9%
Sledding (Luge/Skeleton/Bobsleigh)
30
13%
Alpine Skiing
15
7%
Cross Country Skiing/Biathlon
15
7%
Ski Jumping/Nordic Combined
14
6%
Freestyle Skiing/Snowboarding
30
13%
 
Total votes : 225

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Postby Respawn » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:34 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Because people don't think of that kind of shit when they're FUCKING TRAPPED.

It's not "o let me break through the point of least structural integrity and make a surgical karate chop to the door handle", it's just "let me get the fuck out of here".

Its not like he hated the hotel owner and wanted to go out of his way to fuck shit up, or he could've done more than that to the whole room, he was doing what most normal people would do in a case like that.

I don't know, I would have opened the window, yelled to someone on the street to go tell reception that there's a problem with the door.

It would have looked impressive if he busted a real door, not that cheap honeycomb cardboard shit.

Gallup wrote:According to Respawn, he should've stayed in and died.

At least he would have won a Darwin Award.

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Postby Gallup » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:35 pm

Respawn wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Because people don't think of that kind of shit when they're FUCKING TRAPPED.

It's not "o let me break through the point of least structural integrity and make a surgical karate chop to the door handle", it's just "let me get the fuck out of here".

Its not like he hated the hotel owner and wanted to go out of his way to fuck shit up, or he could've done more than that to the whole room, he was doing what most normal people would do in a case like that.

I don't know, I would have opened the window, yelled to someone on the street to go tell reception that there's a problem with the door.

It would have looked impressive if he busted a real door, not that cheap honeycomb cardboard shit.

Gallup wrote:According to Respawn, he should've stayed in and died.

At least he would have won a Darwin Award.

Athletes aren't famous for there smarts.
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Postby Cosmopoles » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:36 pm

Respawn wrote:I don't know, I would have opened the window, yelled to someone on the street to go tell reception that there's a problem with the door.


How do you know there's a window?

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Postby Gallup » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:36 pm

Respawn wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Because people don't think of that kind of shit when they're FUCKING TRAPPED.

It's not "o let me break through the point of least structural integrity and make a surgical karate chop to the door handle", it's just "let me get the fuck out of here".

Its not like he hated the hotel owner and wanted to go out of his way to fuck shit up, or he could've done more than that to the whole room, he was doing what most normal people would do in a case like that.

I don't know, I would have opened the window, yelled to someone on the street to go tell reception that there's a problem with the door.

It would have looked impressive if he busted a real door, not that cheap honeycomb cardboard shit.

Gallup wrote:According to Respawn, he should've stayed in and died.

At least he would have won a Darwin Award.

Also, most hotel bathrooms don't have windows.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:36 pm

Srboslavija wrote:Out of everyone there, it's the big American who needs to hulk smash a hollow door because he's "locked in", lol.

What is this even supposed to mean? Is this just more of the idiotic "americans are fat lololol" stereotype?
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Postby Respawn » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:39 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:*hyperbole

i meant what i said ugh forget it
Cosmopoles wrote:How do you know there's a window?

Admittedly, you wouldn't. Weren't his teammates present? Perhaps he should have been given a tutorial on how to lock a door.
Gallup wrote:Athletes aren't famous for there smarts.

I'm sensing some irony in this post.

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Postby Gallup » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:40 pm

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Srboslavija wrote:Out of everyone there, it's the big American who needs to hulk smash a hollow door because he's "locked in", lol.

What is this even supposed to mean? Is this just more of the idiotic "americans are fat lololol" stereotype?

Americans are either Costal Neckbreaded Fat Euphoric Atheists or Bigoted Fat Red-Staters.
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Postby Srboslavija » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:40 pm

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Regnum Dominae wrote:Okay, seriously... he was locked in and had no phone to call for help... he was getting out of a locked bathroom. That's not "vandalism". At all.

Yes it is.

Why did he have to make such a huge hole? There's no need to make a hole that big, as you don't need to crawl through it. Why didn't he just make a small enough hole that would allow him to reach through and unlock the door?


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Postby Gallup » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:40 pm

Respawn wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:*hyperbole

i meant what i said ugh forget it
Cosmopoles wrote:How do you know there's a window?

Admittedly, you wouldn't. Weren't his teammates present? Perhaps he should have been given a tutorial on how to lock a door.
Gallup wrote:Athletes aren't famous for there smarts.

I'm sensing some irony in this post.

Did it on porpoise. You win!
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:41 pm

Respawn wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:*hyperbole

i meant what i said ugh forget it
Cosmopoles wrote:How do you know there's a window?

Admittedly, you wouldn't. Weren't his teammates present? Perhaps he should have been given a tutorial on how to lock a door.
Gallup wrote:Athletes aren't famous for there smarts.

I'm sensing some irony in this post.

i was jokig
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Postby Srboslavija » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:44 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Srboslavija wrote:Out of everyone there, it's the big American who needs to hulk smash a hollow door because he's "locked in", lol.

What is this even supposed to mean? Is this just more of the idiotic "americans are fat lololol" stereotype?


Nuffin, just glad Captain America is alive to tell the tale.

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Postby Cosmopoles » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:45 pm

Respawn wrote:Admittedly, you wouldn't. Weren't his teammates present? Perhaps he should have been given a tutorial on how to lock a door.


"But before busting through the door, Quinn said his teammates and neighbors didn’t hear his loud bangs on the wall for help."

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:46 pm

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The water issue was not "cherry picked". It was a real problem. The same with the lack of accommodations, and unfinished hotels. I mean, how do you pour billions of dollars into an area for seven years and still not have clean water, finished walls, doors that actually work, a lack of live wires in showers, and covers on manholes? It's shoddy, it's amateur, it reeks of corruption, and it doesn't reflect the idea of a nation ready to hold a major international event.

Yes, but as I have already pointed out, many of the images showing yellow water flowing from taps and the double toilets were proven fakes. Let's also not forget that certain athletes have actually engaged in vandalism.

Granted, maybe the 50 billion dollars was not money well spent But to be fair, prior to the games, Sochi was a fairly insignificant village and most of the money went into construction as it had to be built from scratch. They want to make it a tourist hub after the olympics. Vancouver, London etc were already fully developed cities. Not the same for Sochi.

Also, a lot of the cost was in security and logistics. Hauling tonnes and tonnes of building materials out into the middle of nowhere in the terrorist-infested Caucasus (and preventing said building materials from being blown up or stolen) isn't cheap.


To your first point, if these are proven fakes, then show me the proof. I've seen one that was a fake, the rest were sent directly from the Twitter accounts of actual journalists.

To your second point, if they weren't ready to do this even with the billions of dollars that they spent, then they shouldn't have done it. Now they're embarrassing themselves in front of the entire world.

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Postby Respawn » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:46 pm

Gallup wrote:Did it on porpoise. You win!

Nice and subtle, I like it.

Anyway, I remember a similar situation happening to me once. Turns out you had to pull the door instead of push. Boy did I feel dumb after that.

I would not be surprised if what happened was that the bathroom warmed up while he was taking a shower, causing the door to expand and jam shut due to the increased heat. They should have just had a curtain there.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:47 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Respawn wrote:Yes, but as I have already pointed out, many of the images showing yellow water flowing from taps and the double toilets were proven fakes. Let's also not forget that certain athletes have actually engaged in vandalism.

Granted, maybe the 50 billion dollars was not money well spent But to be fair, prior to the games, Sochi was a fairly insignificant village and most of the money went into construction as it had to be built from scratch. They want to make it a tourist hub after the olympics. Vancouver, London etc were already fully developed cities. Not the same for Sochi.

Also, a lot of the cost was in security and logistics. Hauling tonnes and tonnes of building materials out into the middle of nowhere in the terrorist-infested Caucasus (and preventing said building materials from being blown up or stolen) isn't cheap.


To your first point, if these are proven fakes, then show me the proof. I've seen one that was a fake, the rest were sent directly from the Twitter accounts of actual journalists.

To your second point, if they weren't ready to do this even with the billions of dollars that they spent, then they shouldn't have done it. Now they're embarrassing themselves in front of the entire world.

Though the west is being slightly dickish to Russia, they kinda did bring it on themselves by asking the world to come here in the first place.
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Postby Gallup » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:48 pm

Respawn wrote:
Gallup wrote:Did it on porpoise. You win!

Nice and subtle, I like it.

Anyway, I remember a similar situation happening to me once. Turns out you had to pull the door instead of push. Boy did I feel dumb after that.

I would not be surprised if what happened was that the bathroom warmed up while he was taking a shower, causing the door to expand and jam shut due to the increased heat. They should have just had a curtain there.

Why was there no curtain?
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:48 pm

Respawn wrote:
Gallup wrote:Did it on porpoise. You win!

Nice and subtle, I like it.

Anyway, I remember a similar situation happening to me once. Turns out you had to pull the door instead of push. Boy did I feel dumb after that.

I would not be surprised if what happened was that the bathroom warmed up while he was taking a shower, causing the door to expand and jam shut due to the increased heat. They should have just had a curtain there.

Or a goddamn properly made door.
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Postby Respawn » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:56 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:"But before busting through the door, Quinn said his teammates and neighbors didn’t hear his loud bangs on the wall for help."

If that is the case, I'd be worried for the state of the US bobsled team. Don't think it is safe for people who can't hear well to complete in the regular olympics.

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:To your first point, if these are proven fakes, then show me the proof.

It was literally on the previous page.

Now they're embarrassing themselves in front of the entire world.

Says who? I don't know if you are watching the games, but they have been great so far. I'm more interested in the competition than the tacky non-issues we are discussing right now.

Nothing can be as GOAT as Beijing and Sydney, but Sochi is up there.
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Or a goddamn properly made door.

Eh, those doors are fairly common across Europe as internal doors. They generally do the job and are cheap.

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Thanks for reposting, I missed the link as well.

It's easy to see how those with predisposed anti-Russian feelings are lapping up those pictures to reaffirm their bias .
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Respawn wrote:If that is the case, I'd be worried for the state of the US bobsled team. Don't think it is safe for people who can't hear well to complete in the regular olympics.


I suppose they could have instructed the athletes to have a bathroom buddy who waits outside for you when you're showering given how risky an activity it seems to be, but that would just give you something else to whine about.

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Srboslavija wrote:


Thanks for reposting, I missed the link as well.

It's easy to see how those with predisposed anti-Russian feelings are lapping up those pictures to reaffirm their bias .

Indeed. News outlets have been quick to report these images as proof of "ahahaha look how shitty russia is lol tsar putin spent 50 billion for this shit? #yolo".

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Respawn wrote:If that is the case, I'd be worried for the state of the US bobsled team. Don't think it is safe for people who can't hear well to complete in the regular olympics.


I suppose they could have instructed the athletes to have a bathroom buddy who waits outside for you when you're showering given how risky an activity it seems to be, but that would just give you something else to whine about.

Nah. It would have been much easier to simply dissolve the cardboard door with the shower head. Much less damage that way. Thank God you weren't stuck in there. Some people really don't know how to keep up.

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Postby Cosmopoles » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:14 pm

Respawn wrote:Nah. It would have been much easier to simply dissolve the cardboard door with the shower head. Much less damage that way. Thank God you weren't stuck in there. Some people really don't know how to keep up.


Likewise. If you'd been stuck in there you'd presumably still be trapped rather than risking any harm to that door (which was replaced the same day with no fuss by Russian officials who presumably didn't share your intimate attachment with it, or at least suppressed their grief long enough to get the job done) and then we wouldn't be able to enjoy your insightful commentary about how the nasty men said mean things about Russia.

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Postby Respawn » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:23 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:Likewise. If you'd been stuck in there you'd presumably still be trapped rather than risking any harm to that door (which was replaced the same day with no fuss by Russian officials who presumably didn't share your intimate attachment with it, or at least suppressed their grief long enough to get the job done) and then we wouldn't be able to enjoy your insightful commentary about how the nasty men said mean things about Russia.

No. I can assure you, there's no way the Kremlin would allow for me to be stuck in a Sochi bathroom. That's only for westerners. After all, how else would I be able to defend Russia and share my insightful commentary with you lovely people?

Does the competition pay better? Tell me, how many shekels would I get if I were to shill for the US instead?

'presumably' is the keyword, I gather. You're projecting a bit too hard there, mate.
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A Russian bloke told me that Sochi is the worst place for the Winter Olympics, as it is the only place thaf sees no natural snow
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