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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:02 pm

Jinwoy wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Yeah, why would Democrats want to vote for Libertarians?

Libertarians are against wars. And Democrats have not been against wars since the 2008 campaign.


But they are pro civil rights. I was going to vote libertarian in the last elections, but Obama - all that despite my.. errr.. 'socialist' leanings.

Lolwut?

Obama, formerly "the most liberal" Senator, only became pro-gay marriage when it was politically advantageous to be.

Despite his claims that a little weed never hurt anybody, there have been more DEA raids on legal (in their respective states) recreational and medical marijuana dispensaries than under Bush. A clear conservative.

They widely supported the NDAA. And helped pass the Patriot Act, again. They voted to give one person the legal power to assassinate you, and to detain you without pressing any charges for the rest of your life. Or without allowing you to stand trial, to face your accuser, or to defend yourself.

What civil rights are you talking about?

They are not pro-civil rights. They are pro-indoctrination and winning elections.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:02 pm

Buse wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Illegal immigration is out of the power of the government to stop.

They can curb it, but they can't completely stop it unless you make a wall greater than the wall of China (hahahhahah right)

the ussr had a good solution for that. the us gov. is just unwilling to use it.

the us might turn into vatican 2,0 or francoist spain one day.

Okay, let's hear it then. What is this fantastic idea the USSR had that the US is unwilling to use?
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Postby Buse » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:03 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Buse wrote:Yes, nobody has anything against immigration only illegal one. But over 90% of Latinos are the results of the illegal one.

It wouldbe ok if anybody without a college degree cannot migrate to the US.


Source please?

I don't believe that to be true at all, unless you are only referring to straight-up Spanish/Haitan Creole speaking immigrants fresh over the border/off the boat.

yeah I mean thoose who jumped from the boat. Not sure for heir kids, are they automatically us citizens?
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Postby Keventle » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:03 pm

GOP takes governor in TX. I'm really surprised there... :shock:




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Postby Murkwood » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:03 pm

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Murkwood wrote:Go Republicans! McConnell is just the beginning.


Well, looks like I'll be crying myself to sleep tonight. :p

You'll be crying for a while, then.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:04 pm

Jinwoy wrote:but part of me wanted to vote in Libertarians, just so we can see how badly a libertarian run economy would mess up and discredit the ideology entirely. c:


Calvin Coolidge. While not a libertarian in name, a libertarian would create similar policies. (Decentralized laissez faire)

US debt decreased by $6,000m (nominal) and gave us an average 800m surplus. That era was known as the "roaring twenties."
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:04 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Jinwoy wrote:
But they are pro civil rights. I was going to vote libertarian in the last elections, but Obama - all that despite my.. errr.. 'socialist' leanings.

Lolwut?

Obama, formerly "the most liberal" Senator, only became pro-gay marriage when it was politically advantageous to be.

Despite his claims that a little weed never hurt anybody, there have been more DEA raids on legal (in their respective states) recreational and medical marijuana dispensaries than under Bush. A clear conservative.

They are not pro-civil rights. They are pro-indoctrination and winning elections.


I am going to point out that I am not a true libertarian due to my stance on militarism; BUT THANK YOU FOR REALISING THE ABOVE!!!

Thank you so damn much for seeing the Democrats for what they are!


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Postby Keventle » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:05 pm

I'm getting the Champagne ready... Just a little bit more time :blush:
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Postby Buse » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:05 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Buse wrote:the ussr had a good solution for that. the us gov. is just unwilling to use it.

the us might turn into vatican 2,0 or francoist spain one day.

Okay, let's hear it then. What is this fantastic idea the USSR had that the US is unwilling to use?

they would deport them back home as with their kids. Also, if they found somebody crossing the border they would shoot them. I am not claiming it is a fantastic idea though.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:05 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Jinwoy wrote:but part of me wanted to vote in Libertarians, just so we can see how badly a libertarian run economy would mess up and discredit the ideology entirely. c:


Calvin Coolidge. While not a libertarian in name, a libertarian would create similar policies. (Decentralized laissez faire)

US debt decreased by $6,000m (nominal) and gave us an average 800m surplus. That era was known as the "roaring twenties."


It's not like his policies were a cause of the Great Depression or anything. Or that whole era where people lived in slums or there was massive inequality.
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Postby Keventle » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:06 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Jinwoy wrote:
But they are pro civil rights. I was going to vote libertarian in the last elections, but Obama - all that despite my.. errr.. 'socialist' leanings.

Lolwut?

Obama, formerly "the most liberal" Senator, only became pro-gay marriage when it was politically advantageous to be.

Despite his claims that a little weed never hurt anybody, there have been more DEA raids on legal (in their respective states) recreational and medical marijuana dispensaries than under Bush. A clear conservative.

They widely supported the NDAA. And helped pass the Patriot Act, again. They voted to give one person the legal power to assassinate you, and to detain you without pressing any charges for the rest of your life. Or without allowing you to stand trial, to face your accuser, or to defend yourself.

What civil rights are you talking about?

They are not pro-civil rights. They are pro-indoctrination and winning elections.

I hope you didn't just see this.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:06 pm

Keventle wrote:I'm getting the Champagne ready... Just a little bit more time :blush:


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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:06 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Lolwut?

Obama, formerly "the most liberal" Senator, only became pro-gay marriage when it was politically advantageous to be.

Despite his claims that a little weed never hurt anybody, there have been more DEA raids on legal (in their respective states) recreational and medical marijuana dispensaries than under Bush. A clear conservative.

They are not pro-civil rights. They are pro-indoctrination and winning elections.


I am going to point out that I am not a true libertarian due to my stance on militarism; BUT THANK YOU FOR REALISING THE ABOVE!!!

Thank you so damn much for seeing the Democrats for what they are!

The Democrats have always been the Statist Shills, and have only supported freedom for the sake of winning the populace and to create a mask of social liberalism to ensure that the socially liberal young populace will vote for them. They cannot be even described as liberal in my opinion, instead they are this pro-big government statist party that is just as bad as the NeoCons of the GOP.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:06 pm

Jinwoy wrote:but part of me wanted to vote in Libertarians, just so we can see how badly a libertarian run economy would mess up and discredit the ideology entirely. c:

You voting for libertarians would not make them win.

Even if they won, does not mean they would make any policy changes.

And if they did, the economy would prosper. Libertarian economic policy is based on hundreds of years of demonstrated results. Unlike, Keynesianism, which has decades of demonstrated failure.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:07 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Buse wrote:the ussr had a good solution for that. the us gov. is just unwilling to use it.

the us might turn into vatican 2,0 or francoist spain one day.

Okay, let's hear it then. What is this fantastic idea the USSR had that the US is unwilling to use?

Turn your country to shit, so no one wants to move there? Assassinate anyone that wants to leave?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:07 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Calvin Coolidge. While not a libertarian in name, a libertarian would create similar policies. (Decentralized laissez faire)

US debt decreased by $6,000m (nominal) and gave us an average 800m surplus. That era was known as the "roaring twenties."


It's not like his policies were a cause of the Great Depression or anything. Or that whole era where people lived in slums or there was massive inequality.


Of course, that wasn't totally his work and not exasperated by the two guys after him!
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:08 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Jinwoy wrote:but part of me wanted to vote in Libertarians, just so we can see how badly a libertarian run economy would mess up and discredit the ideology entirely. c:


Calvin Coolidge. While not a libertarian in name, a libertarian would create similar policies. (Decentralized laissez faire)

US debt decreased by $6,000m (nominal) and gave us an average 800m surplus. That era was known as the "roaring twenties."

Good luck my friend.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:08 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Lolwut?

Obama, formerly "the most liberal" Senator, only became pro-gay marriage when it was politically advantageous to be.

Despite his claims that a little weed never hurt anybody, there have been more DEA raids on legal (in their respective states) recreational and medical marijuana dispensaries than under Bush. A clear conservative.

They are not pro-civil rights. They are pro-indoctrination and winning elections.


I am going to point out that I am not a true libertarian due to my stance on militarism; BUT THANK YOU FOR REALISING THE ABOVE!!!

Thank you so damn much for seeing the Democrats for what they are!

You missed my edit. But cool.

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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:08 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Jinwoy wrote:but part of me wanted to vote in Libertarians, just so we can see how badly a libertarian run economy would mess up and discredit the ideology entirely. c:

You voting for libertarians would not make them win.

Even if they won, does not mean they would make any policy changes.

And if they did, the economy would prosper. Libertarian economic policy is based on hundreds of years of demonstrated results. Unlike, Keynesianism, which has decades of demonstrated failure.

^^
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:09 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Calvin Coolidge. While not a libertarian in name, a libertarian would create similar policies. (Decentralized laissez faire)

US debt decreased by $6,000m (nominal) and gave us an average 800m surplus. That era was known as the "roaring twenties."

Good luck my friend.


I don't need luck. *pops champagne*
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:09 pm

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
I am going to point out that I am not a true libertarian due to my stance on militarism; BUT THANK YOU FOR REALISING THE ABOVE!!!

Thank you so damn much for seeing the Democrats for what they are!

The Democrats have always been the Statist Shills, and have only supported freedom for the sake of winning the populace and to create a mask of social liberalism to ensure that the socially liberal young populace will vote for them. They cannot be even described as liberal in my opinion, instead they are this pro-big government statist party that is just as bad as the NeoCons of the GOP.


My thoughts exactly.


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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:09 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Calvin Coolidge. While not a libertarian in name, a libertarian would create similar policies. (Decentralized laissez faire)

US debt decreased by $6,000m (nominal) and gave us an average 800m surplus. That era was known as the "roaring twenties."


It's not like his policies were a cause of the Great Depression or anything. Or that whole era where people lived in slums or there was massive inequality.

They weren't.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:10 pm

Buse wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Okay, let's hear it then. What is this fantastic idea the USSR had that the US is unwilling to use?

they would deport them back home as with their kids. Also, if they found somebody crossing the border they would shoot them. I am not claiming it is a fantastic idea though.

You said it was a good solution, or are you now saying it's really not?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:10 pm

Anyway let's not threadjack.

What's happening with Ohio, we know?
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:10 pm

Sibirsky wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:
It's not like his policies were a cause of the Great Depression or anything. Or that whole era where people lived in slums or there was massive inequality.

They weren't.

Pretty sure Bernanke and/or Krugman wrote (a) book(s) on how they weren't, in fact. /aside
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