US Senate Elections thread, 2014 Edition!

[Tyrandel]

Is that a challenge? Because I for one feel pretty obstructionist and hope my Senator shares the sentiment.

I could go for some petty revenge obstructionism.

Screw petty revenge, I want Democrats treating every single bill (no matter how tiny and insignificant) as though it were re-legalizing slavery. Full out hysteria, grandstanding and general political mayhem. I want Democrats filibustering Congress with passages from the Communist Manifesto.

[Wisconsin9]

Tea Partiers hate minorities, women, LGBTQs, and healthy people who can take care of themselves in general. They want all these people to be unhealthy and bondaged by their 18th cnetury BS.

Please take your ignorant views elsewhere, seriously. That is about the stupidest thing i have ever heard about the Tea Party.

Have you tried reading their website?

[Inyourfaceistan]

You obviously don't know anything about the Tea Party.

Apparently all they want to do is impeach Obama and Healthcare.

Tea Partiers hate minorities, women, LGBTQs, and healthy people who can take care of themselves in general. They want all these people to be unhealthy and bondaged by their 18th cnetury BS.

As a member of the Tea Party who has attended Tea Party rallies and votes for Tea Party candidates, I can tell you this is total bullshit.

[Nova Nacio]

Tea Partiers hate minorities, women, LGBTQs, and healthy people who can take care of themselves in general. They want all these people to be unhealthy and bondaged by their 18th cnetury BS.

Please take your ignorant views elsewhere, seriously. That is about the stupidest thing i have ever heard about the Tea Party.

Name one Tea Partier you know who isn't like that, and I'll shut up.

[Wisconsin9]

I could go for some petty revenge obstructionism.

Screw petty revenge, I want Democrats treating every single bill (no matter how tiny and insignificant) as though it were re-legalizing slavery. Full out hysteria, grandstanding and general political mayhem. I want Democrats filibustering Congress with passages from the Communist Manifesto.

Oh, no, I didn't mean just blocking petty stuff. I mean that it's petty that I want this. Though it could probably be justified as letting them know that we aren't going to just lay down and let them trample us.

[Charva]

Can you believe those racists in South Carolina voted in a republican senator AGAIN?

Racissssssts. Oh, wait.

And those sexists in Iowa! Ugh.

Sarcasm, if you didn't pick it up.

http://www.examiner.com/article/liberal ... e-race-s-c

Yes. Those are the racists.
The people who voted for a man not because of his skin color but because they supported his platform. How racist of them.

I bet he will join the rest of those racists in the Senate to N****block poor president Obama just because of his race...

The Irony! This has been a most satisfying night for me.

[Jordsindia]

Tea Partiers hate minorities, women, LGBTQs, and healthy people who can take care of themselves in general. They want all these people to be unhealthy and bondaged by their 18th cnetury BS.

This is true

And they want to cut taxes

If you want to give 90% of your income away, give it to charity. Do it, you want to do it so bad.

[Maineiacs]

Is that a challenge? Because I for one feel pretty obstructionist and hope my Senator shares the sentiment.

I could go for some petty revenge obstructionism.

I understand the visceral desire for that, but a little can go a long way; indeed, it can easily go too far and backfire badly. Maybe they should give in a bit on a few lesser points then use that in '16 saying "see, they got their way, and look what happened".

[Maineiacs]

http://www.examiner.com/article/liberal ... e-race-s-c

Yes. Those are the racists.
The people who voted for a man not because of his skin color but because they supported his platform. How racist of them.

I bet he will join the rest of those racists in the Senate to N****block poor president Obama just because of his race...

The Irony! This has been a most satisfying night for me.

You two really ought to consider toning down the gloating; it's a no-no on this site.

[United States of Natan]

I'm scared, do the republicans control the senate now?!

[Tyrandel]

Screw petty revenge, I want Democrats treating every single bill (no matter how tiny and insignificant) as though it were re-legalizing slavery. Full out hysteria, grandstanding and general political mayhem. I want Democrats filibustering Congress with passages from the Communist Manifesto.

Oh, no, I didn't mean just blocking petty stuff. I mean that it's petty that I want this. Though it could probably be justified as letting them know that we aren't going to just lay down and let them trample us.

Oh, okay. I think we are on the same page then.
I am half motivated by revenge and half motivated by the fact that I fully expect the Republicans to go right back to being bigoted against everyone except White Heterosexual Rich Men now that they have power. I do not want social progress in America set back. Better to go nowhere than to go the wrong way.

[Maineiacs]

I'm scared, do the republicans control the senate now?!

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

[Jinwoy]

I'm scared, do the republicans control the senate now?!

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

they control two thirds? holy. shit.

[Jordsindia]

Please take your ignorant views elsewhere, seriously. That is about the stupidest thing i have ever heard about the Tea Party.

Name one Tea Partier you know who isn't like that, and I'll shut up.

Rand Paul. ted Cruz. Herman Cain.

Not to mention many tea partiers support gay marriage. And the women and minorities thing, fucking seriously? That is complete and utter bullshit and you know it.

[United States of Natan]

I'm scared, do the republicans control the senate now?!

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

wait, all the result are in? and what exactly do you mean by a veto proof margin?

[Charva]

Tea Partiers hate minorities, women, LGBTQs, and healthy people who can take care of themselves in general. They want all these people to be unhealthy and bondaged by their 18th cnetury BS.

As a member of the Tea Party who has attended Tea Party rallies and votes for Tea Party candidates, I can tell you this is total bullshit.

Ditto, Inyourfaceistan. I too have been to Tea Party meetings. Absolutely none of the scheming that Nova Nacio suspects is existant. He just takes what Rachel Maddow tells him as Gospel Truth. I doubt that NN or Maddow have ever attended a Tea Party meeting.

And as I type the Maryland gubernatorial race has been called for the Republican candidate. A most satisfying night.

[Maineiacs]

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

they control two thirds? holy. shit.

No! I said NOT a veto-proof majority! Please calm down and read more carefully.

[Lykens]

I'm scared, do the republicans control the senate now?!

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

Filibuster-proof.

Although they won't be able to overturn a veto. Which is what you meant.

Jumped the gun :L.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Name one Tea Partier you know who isn't like that, and I'll shut up.

Rand Paul. ted Cruz. Herman Cain.

Not to mention many tea partiers support gay marriage. And the women and minorities thing, fucking seriously? That is complete and utter bullshit and you know it.

You forgot Allen West.
And the guy behind this account...

Well there is a large Libertarian wing of the Tea Party, I mean it's not like its actually mostlynanti-tax and anti-bailout or anything...

[Wisconsin9]

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

wait, all the result are in? and what exactly do you mean by a veto proof margin?

It means they can't reliably override the Presidential veto. They can get laws through Congress, but there's no guarantee they'll get through the White House.

[Maineiacs]

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

wait, all the result are in? and what exactly do you mean by a veto proof margin?

They would need 60 seats to be able to override any veto by Obama; they won't have that many.

[United States of Natan]

wait, all the result are in? and what exactly do you mean by a veto proof margin?

It means they can't reliably override the Presidential veto. They can get laws through Congress, but there's no guarantee they'll get through the White House.

oh, right, sorry. I'm a little tired.

NOOOOO! If the republicans control both houses, it is a dark day for America indeed

[Maineiacs]

Yes, but not by a veto-proof margin.

Filibuster-proof.

Although they won't be able to overturn a veto. Which is what you meant.

Jumped the gun :L.

Yes; I should have said not filibuster-proof either. I still feel the Dems should be careful with the filibuster, though. I'm afraid it could backfire on them.

[Inyourfaceistan]

As a member of the Tea Party who has attended Tea Party rallies and votes for Tea Party candidates, I can tell you this is total bullshit.

Ditto, Inyourfaceistan. I too have been to Tea Party meetings. Absolutely none of the scheming that Nova Nacio suspects is existant. He just takes what Rachel Maddow tells him as Gospel Truth. I doubt that NN or Maddow have ever attended a Tea Party meeting.

And as I type the Maryland gubernatorial race has been called for the Republican candidate. A most satisfying night.

I attended a Tea Party rally in Hawaii, and what do you know, MOSTLY ASIANS!!!

They naturally must all be self-loathing *Uncle Tom* race-traitors to join a movement about politics... *nods*

*Using that phrase in reference to a link I posted where democrat voters were calling Tim Scott an "Uncle Tom" for the crime of Being a Republican While Black.

[ControlHQ]

tl;d since most Democrats really don't seem to grasp this

If the Republicans won the House AND Senate, and Obama vetoes everything, he is being obstructionist. Not the Congress.

And?

Republican shortsightedness has set an unfortunate precedent.

1. They've put the Democrats in an awkward position where too much conciliation gives the Republicans a free pass to go out and crow, "See! We can get things done! We told you nothing in the last six years was our fault!" And you know they will, because 'subtlety' and 'tact' are currently considered dirty words in conservative circles.

2. At the same time they've demonstrated quite handily tonight that childish theatrics and obstructionism don't necessarily damage your ability to win elections at all.

So....exactly what is the Democrats incentive to play nice? Commit political suicide for the greater good?

Also, why should they?

Democrats have meekly bent over for Republican-administered ass-kickings more times than should be palatable to the Democratic base. This midterm was just another example of that. Democrats across the board not only abandoned their President but weakened their resolve on the issues that gain them traction; the minimum wage, equal pay, etc. What kind of message does that send to an already demoralized, disillusioned base? If anything, I think the Democrats need to play tougher ball with their Republican "colleagues" who've treated their last four years in the House majority and the past six years in the Senate minority like wartime with only one clear objective; outright obstructionism.

Democratic policy shops could crank out no proposal that Republicans wouldn't chew up and spit back into their faces. How on Earth will that situation be ameliorated with a new red Senate? All this talk of bipartisanship attempts to belie the utter stagnancy that will be President Obama's final two years in the White House.