The White Persecution Complex

[Quintium]

I mean, in Sweden the "whites" are still the largest ethnic group by far and generally in control. But the government and media is regularly criticizing white swedes. Many of our old holiday traditions are called barbaric (to example, the midsummer festival). It is very common that swedes are called "racist", "backwards" and "xenophobic". If a crime is committed by a white person against a non-white it is instantly labeled as racist. Newspapers start up campaigns against racism and condemn such things. But when a white person is targeted, that is never racist. Often they explain it as being a "cry for help" or the result of social problems.
In media it is very common that the identities of criminals of non-Swedish ethnicity are hidden, that is even in high-profile cases. This is motivated as trying to not fuel racism and hatred. But when whites figure in high-profile cases, they are very often exposed to the public and then the whole thing about "racist Sweden" is on again.

I find that terrifying.

It is entirely accepted when a non-white immigrant (usually from the middle east or Africa) to call a swede for "whitey" or "svenne" (that being a sort of an insult based on being of swedish decent). But you are under no conditions allowed to reply with something similar as "blatte" (derogatory term for non-european immigrant) or the classical "nigger" causes a bloody commotion. I experienced this as a pupil in a school.

Sweden has a reputation worldwide for having a botched immigration policy and an integration policy that could only be worse if it required all ethnic Swedes to set themselves on fire.

At that rate whites might soon becoming a minority in their OWN BLOODY COUNTRIES in maybe 50 years.

And I hope it happens quickly. It's all a matter of action and reaction. When that happens, that'll be the day Europeans really wake up. We oppose mass immigration now, by and large, but eventually we'll just snap - not because we want to, and not out of hate, but because we will see the end of our cultures and ethnic groups if we don't snap. Of course, it'll start way before that. The riots we've seen in France, the United Kingdom and Sweden were just precursors of what will happen in the coming decades. It'll all get more violent, especially as our governments are now finding themselves painfully short of money for the welfare state, on which enormous numbers of non-western immigrants rely for their income. These 'incidents' will start becoming more and more common and it'll start becoming apparent that non-western immigrant groups usually have no respect for our rights and that our own governments are completely incapable of protecting us.

[Libertarian California]

It's good because they've got a solid ethnic identity.

Is that necessarily beneficial?

Actually, it is. It is a safeguard against balkanization and fragmentation.

[Libertarian California]

It's good because they've got a solid ethnic identity.

So in order to have a "solid ethnic identity" it's okay for them to treat non-Japanese pretty badly?

They aren't being treated badly.

[Kaitjan]

And I hope it happens quickly. It's all a matter of action and reaction. When that happens, that'll be the day Europeans really wake up. We oppose mass immigration now, by and large, but eventually we'll just snap - not because we want to, and not out of hate, but because we will see the end of our cultures and ethnic groups if we don't snap. Of course, it'll start way before that. The riots we've seen in France, the United Kingdom and Sweden were just precursors of what will happen in the coming decades. It'll all get more violent, especially as our governments are now finding themselves painfully short of money for the welfare state, on which enormous numbers of non-western immigrants rely for their income. These 'incidents' will start becoming more and more common and it'll start becoming apparent that non-western immigrant groups usually have no respect for our rights and that our own governments are completely incapable of protecting us.

When we are a minority everything will be to late. Then either we will have to turn into a harsh police state and expel A LOT of non whites, or we will have to die. There is no other way.

[Baader-Meinhof Gruppe]

Doesn't look very different from the Christian persecution complex.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The group doing the persecution claims they're actually being persecuted so they can try to commit some genocide or another.

[Estado Paulista]

So in order to have a "solid ethnic identity" it's okay for them to treat non-Japanese pretty badly?

They aren't being treated badly.

They are. You must not be aware of how xenophobic the Japanese society is.

[Libertarian California]

They aren't being treated badly.

They are. You must not be aware of how xenophobic the Japanese society is.

Does this ever manifest in the form of physical violence?

[Estado Paulista]

They are. You must not be aware of how xenophobic the Japanese society is.

Does this ever manifest in the form of physical violence?

Yes. But regardless, physical violence isn't the only way agressivness towards a certain ethnic group can be manifested by society.

[Nazi Flower Power]

This is partially because of whites access to education (Education being a surefire way to eliminate racist sentiment), and partially due to the cultural reformations underway in white communities.

Actually, many of the more prominent racists are educated. David Duke graduated from Louisiana State University, and I'm a soon to be Associates degree holder who believes in race. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 005342.htm

about 27 percent of the least intelligent whites supported school busing programs, compared with 23 percent of the most intelligent whites.

Has it occurred to them that maybe this is because busing programs are stupid and don't fix the quality of the schools that kids are being bussed away from?

The part about equal housing is somewhat depressing, though.

[Seriong]

Last Lynching.

Depends on how you define it. I wold count this one: probably not the last.

You can criticize Zimmerman all you want, saying it was unjust, but calling it a lynching, is just silly.

[Nazi Flower Power]

I think those White americans have to acknowledge that while they may suffer from racist attacks or slander by minorities which are very real and deplorable, minorities don't have the power in business, politics or the media to inflict the same kind of institutionalised racism that they have suffered and in some cases still suffer, and probably won't for a long time, so they should stop worrying.

Christ that was a long sentence, sorry!

Sorry, but when people are assholes to me, I have a right to get pissed at them. Just because someone isn't an HR manager or politician doesn't mean they can say anything they want and nobody has a right to complain when it's offensive. So guess what. White people are going to complain when we are treated like crap.

[Nervium]

Has it occurred to them that maybe this is because busing programs are stupid and don't fix the quality of the schools that kids are being bussed away from?

The part about equal housing is somewhat depressing, though.

Welp, even intelligent racists ain't going to change the fact that science rejects racism and eugenics as unscientific, so though luck for Duke and the likes.


Und presecution complex, Weiss Amerika, bisst zu krank im Kopf?

[Nazi Flower Power]

Blacks can (and sometimes are) racist to whites. Whites can (and sometimes are) racist to blacks. No group in the US is more persucted than the other in the US. Try being white in Detriot, or Camden. Not fun. Same with places being a black in Vermont. All this "We're being oppressed!" on both sides is a big load of bull.

You're less likely to get shot in Vermont. If you just mean feeling out of place, then yeah, Vermont is really full of white people, and not everyone is going to feel at home there.

[Wolfmanne]

Admittedly I've said some things to White British people but this is bullshit. I get more people thinking I'm a 'Paki' or 'Bloody Arab'. Heck, someone called my lighter-skinned Dad 'Chinese' (dunno where that came from). I will say in some parts of London, especially in the Black or Asian areas, Whites generally have to carry a key in their hand in case the Peckham Boys, SG, PYG or some other gang jump out a bush and try to the shank the said White person, but that's as close as you get to 'discrimination'.

FYI, I'm Maltese/Latino in blood.

[ALMF]

Depends on how you define it. I wold count this one: probably not the last.

You can criticize Zimmerman all you want, saying it was unjust, but calling it a lynching, is just silly.

Only if you assume the "Stand Your Ground" law isn't intended to result in such. In the alternative, Dennis Baxley is David Curtiss "Steve" Stephenson and Zimerman is just the throwaway Klansman.

[Cheeselanders]

Welp, even intelligent racists ain't going to change the fact that science rejects racism and eugenics as unscientific, so though luck for Duke and the likes.

Eugenics can be called unethical, but unscientific is purely wishful thinking. The existence of selective breeding kind of proves that point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY7giiyfJ0A

Depends on how you define it. I wold count this one: probably not the last.

His mother is black hispanic, so no.

[Nazi Flower Power]

"Persecution" depends where you live. Catholics are not really liked in the south, but welcomed in places like NJ. The group I think faces the most "persecution" in the US (and I use that very, very, very lightly) is the Jews. Anti- Semitism is on the rise.

Antisemitism makes me a sad Nazi...

[The Nihilistic view]

Admittedly I've said some things to White British people but this is bullshit. I get more people thinking I'm a 'Paki' or 'Bloody Arab'. Heck, someone called my lighter-skinned Dad 'Chinese' (dunno where that came from). I will say in some parts of London, especially in the Black or Asian areas, Whites generally have to carry a key in their hand in case the Peckham Boys, SG, PYG or some other gang jump out a bush and try to the shank the said White person, but that's as close as you get to 'discrimination'.

FYI, I'm Maltese/Latino in blood.

That's why I always carry a Gentleman's cane when I venture out of knightsbridge.

[Nervium]

Welp, even intelligent racists ain't going to change the fact that science rejects racism and eugenics as unscientific, so though luck for Duke and the likes.

Eugenics can be called unethical, but unscientific is purely wishful thinking. The existence of selective breeding kind of proves that point.

Meant in context of racial "science" wich has been debunked numerous times.

[Osterlais]

I think those White americans have to acknowledge that while they may suffer from racist attacks or slander by minorities which are very real and deplorable, minorities don't have the power in business, politics or the media to inflict the same kind of institutionalised racism that they have suffered and in some cases still suffer, and probably won't for a long time, so they should stop worrying.

White American's don't see themselves as a cohesive group. There is not really a concept of a white community, outside of certain segregated towns. So it is hard to see ourselves as the ruling class. There are more poor, imprisoned and unemployed whites, because there are more whites in America, a lot more. And really what difference is there between being unemployed because you the employers are racist or unemployed for any other reason? You are just as unemployed. So when people see the importance attached to the suffering of minorities, when they are suffering too, it is difficult for them to sympathize.

Besides "white power"is not absolute. Most people in high places are white males, but most white males are not in charge. Almost every job I have had in the US, I have had superiors who were non-white and female.

If white and black Americans could recognize each other's grievances, the world would be a better place. Too many people see racism as black and white, where white always oppresses the black. Take the Zimmerman case. One look at his picture, and you would realize, he could as easily find himself the victim of a hate crime by White Supremacists. Yet because he killed a black man, he is seen as white. Similarly, Arabs, many whom look pretty white to me, are considered black or brown (not my words) when targeted by racial discrimination.

Some white people have adopted some thinking from minorities who have in turn adopted the thinking of some racists. That is, white people claim discrimination, in imitation of their heroes like MLK, whereas the strict definition of white held by Neo-Nazis and the KKK is accepted by progressive anti-racist groups

[Temujinn]

http://politicalblindspot.com/study-finds-white-americans-believe-they-experience-more-racism-than-african-americans/

Study Finds White Americans Believe They Experience More Racism Than African Americans

There’s a saying that “the new racism is to deny that racism exists.” If that is the case, it may explain a study conducted by researchers from Tufts University’s School of Arts and Sciences and Harvard Business School. Their findings claim that self-described white Americans believe they have “replaced blacks” as the primary victims of racial discrimination in contemporary America.

The authors say that their study highlights how the expectations of a “post-racial” society, predicted or imagined in the wake of Barack Obama’s presidency, has far from been achieved.

The study finds that while both Caucasian and African Americans agree that anti-black racism has decreased over the last 60 years, whites believe that anti-white racism has increased. Moreover, the study finds that the majority of Caucasians believe that anti-white racism is a “bigger problem” than what African Americans face.

Tufts Associate Professor of Psychology Samuel Sommers, PhD is the co-author of the article “Whites See Racism as a Zero-sum Game that They Are Now Losing,” from the journal Perspectives on Psychological Science. He comments that ”It’s a pretty surprising finding when you think of the wide range of disparities that still exist in society, most of which show black Americans with worse outcomes than whites in areas such as income, home ownership, health and employment.”

The study was conducted by Sommers and co-author Michael I. Norton of Harvard asking a roughly equal national sample of 209 Caucasians and 208 African Americans to indicate, on a scale of 1 to 10, the extent to which they felt blacks and whites were the targets of discrimination in decades spanning from the 1950s to the 2000s. The scale’s ranking of 1 indicated “not at all” while 10 indicates “very much.”

Both groups reported roughly the same things for the 1950s, with neither believing Caucasians experienced much racism at all during that turbulent decade. Both similarly agreed that at the same time, there was substantial racism against African Americans. Both groups also agreed that racism against African Americans has steadily decreased over time. But here’s where the study gets interesting. Caucasians surveyed believe that the discrimination faced by their African American neighbors has decreased much more rapidly than the African American respondents. Furthermore, they believe that while African Americans now have it better, they – the Caucasians surveyed – have taken their place as the primary targets of discrimination.

“These data are the first to demonstrate that not only do whites think more progress has been made toward equality than do blacks, but whites also now believe that this progress is linked to a new inequality – at their expense,” Norton and Sommers explain.

An astounding 11% of Caucasian respondents assigned the maximum rating of 10 to the seriousness of anti-white discrimination. Compare that with only 2% who reported the same of anti-black racism. Caucasians, the study found, often believe that racial equality is “a zero sum game,” where one group gains at the expense of others.

What are your thoughts?

(Article by M.B. David)

A majority of whites now believe that "racism" against whites is now a bigger problem than racism against blacks. Let that sink in for a minute. A majority of the most privileged ethnic group in the most privileged country in the world think they're the ones being persecuted, and that racial equality is a zero sum game where one group must benefit at the expense of the others.

This is the stuff that fascism is made from, and something needs to be done about that. Immediately.

White.
Grew up in a Housing Project in Detroit. I would like some evidence of my "privilege", I have yet to see it.

In point of fact, racism itself in this day and age is a red herring to the real issue which is the class divide.

JP Morgan too big to sent to jail, Ethan Couch to go a resort for killing 4 people-- it isnt WHITE these pieces of shit have in common. Its Money.

After a certain tax bracket the only phenotype that matters is GREEN.

As for simple minded White Apologists... no thanks Im not buying the guilt. Also not falling for the Racial "Us against Them" bullshit. My enemies dont come to my neighborhood, regardless of skin color.

And yes, I use the term "Enemy" with direct intent with regards to state of socioeconomic inequality.

[The Nihilistic view]

I mean, in Sweden the "whites" are still the largest ethnic group by far and generally in control. But the government and media is regularly criticizing white swedes. Many of our old holiday traditions are called barbaric (to example, the midsummer festival). It is very common that swedes are called "racist", "backwards" and "xenophobic". If a crime is committed by a white person against a non-white it is instantly labeled as racist. Newspapers start up campaigns against racism and condemn such things. But when a white person is targeted, that is never racist. Often they explain it as being a "cry for help" or the result of social problems.
In media it is very common that the identities of criminals of non-Swedish ethnicity are hidden, that is even in high-profile cases. This is motivated as trying to not fuel racism and hatred. But when whites figure in high-profile cases, they are very often exposed to the public and then the whole thing about "racist Sweden" is on again.

I find that terrifying.

It is entirely accepted when a non-white immigrant (usually from the middle east or Africa) to call a swede for "whitey" or "svenne" (that being a sort of an insult based on being of swedish decent). But you are under no conditions allowed to reply with something similar as "blatte" (derogatory term for non-european immigrant) or the classical "nigger" causes a bloody commotion. I experienced this as a pupil in a school.

Sweden has a reputation worldwide for having a botched immigration policy and an integration policy that could only be worse if it required all ethnic Swedes to set themselves on fire.

At that rate whites might soon becoming a minority in their OWN BLOODY COUNTRIES in maybe 50 years.

And I hope it happens quickly. It's all a matter of action and reaction. When that happens, that'll be the day Europeans really wake up. We oppose mass immigration now, by and large, but eventually we'll just snap - not because we want to, and not out of hate, but because we will see the end of our cultures and ethnic groups if we don't snap. Of course, it'll start way before that. The riots we've seen in France, the United Kingdom and Sweden were just precursors of what will happen in the coming decades. It'll all get more violent, especially as our governments are now finding themselves painfully short of money for the welfare state, on which enormous numbers of non-western immigrants rely for their income. These 'incidents' will start becoming more and more common and it'll start becoming apparent that non-western immigrant groups usually have no respect for our rights and that our own governments are completely incapable of protecting us.

I have often mused on this myself. I do feel that snapping point will be if/when there are concerted call's by a large swath of the Muslim populations for Sharia law. I usually disdain protest's and riot's but if that became a serious possibility I would be out there draped in a Union Jack protesting against it.

[Cheeselanders]

Eugenics can be called unethical, but unscientific is purely wishful thinking. The existence of selective breeding kind of proves that point.

Meant in context of racial "science" wich has been debunked numerous times.

How does the context change how scientific eugenics it is? Considering how the point of the concept is to strive for improvement via breeding and doesn't necessarily imply existing superiority, it makes no difference here.

[Trezchoix]

Happens everyday but its ok were white so theres no such things as racism against whites. South Africa being a prime example and in the US to be proud to be white is immediately means your a neo-Nazi racist. But any other race may be proud of there color and I realize most of the NSG will say there is no such thing which would be typical.

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I live in an area which I would say is a pretty fair microcosm of the United States in terms of demographics, and I can tell you that as a white person I have never experienced racism, ever, and the thought that I would is absurd. Even if there has occasionally been a prejudiced comment directed at me from a member of another race, it is so rare I really can't recall anything specific, it's usually just a joke anyway, and even when it's truly malicious it has had no affect on me because it's too stupid to bother me. White people do have a persecution complex and they should get the fuck over it.