Is Atheism faith?

[Farnhamia]

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Yeah, someone posted that, two minutes before you did. Do try to keep up.

[Geilinor]

Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods. It doesn't necessarily mean, "100%, there is no God."

[Twilight Imperium]

Flawed creator was never what we were talking about.

If a creator force is not omniscient or omnipotent then the problem does disappear...

But yes, this. Atheism as a lack of belief in any God or Godlike force can't really weigh the evidence of one specific interpretation of a Godlike force as evidence against *all* Godlike forces.

[Risottia]

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Sorry, you've been ninja'd.

And the ninjapost has been awesome'd.

[Genivaria]

You never play Democracy 2? Turns out EVERYONE's in a faction.

I tried Democracy 3 but I keep getting assassinated by liberals or fundies.

Democracy 2 and 3 are terrible examples of factional relationships.

All I know is that the first time I played Democracy I tried pleasing the Capitalists, Conservatives, and Religious and felt like a giant asshole.

[The United States of Nova]

Everyone here has digressed off the main topic, which was whether Atheism is a faith. I am here to say that if you are against something than you have views about it. That's why Atheism is but isn't a faith

[Post-Modern Techno Shamans]

"Does God Exist" Is an Unfalsifiable hypothesis. Strong Atheists seem to assert an absolute that "There is no god" vs "I don't believe there is a god" Strong Atheism might require faith.

[Conkerials]

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I think we've gotten our answer.

No! Noooo! I was too late! Nooo! Damn you, slow internet!

[Risottia]

Then he's not very useful.

You can be non-omnipotent and still create universes. Just ask Doctor Manhattan.

Doctor Manhattan may be a demiurge (and clearly, he's not good). But he's not an uncreated creator, as the classic Christian theology would require.

[Conkerials]

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Yeah, someone posted that, two minutes before you did. Do try to keep up.

I apologize. My internet is being slow.

[Twilight Imperium]

Everyone here has digressed off the main topic, which was whether Atheism is a faith. I am here to say that if you are against something than you have views about it. That's why Atheism is but isn't a faith

True, but "do not believe" isn't a view. It's not having a view. Is your lack of belief in large flying marmots a faith?

[Risottia]

I am here to say that if you are against something than you have views about it.

Being atheist =/= being against deities.

Being atheist = not believing deities exist. There's a fine difference, but I'm sure it won't escape you.

[Vareiln]

Wrong. Identical manuscripts, Shroud of Turin, exorcisms etc.

None of those are proof of the existence of God. Describe one piece of evidence which supports the divinity of Jesus over the divinity of, say, Augustus Caesar.

Hey, that's not fair. Augustus Caesar was a mighty warrior-politician-emperor who inspired and led an empire.
Truly, he was a god, or at least divine in some way.

[Risottia]

Wrong. Identical manuscripts, Shroud of Turin, exorcisms etc.

Source thy claims.

[Dyakovo]

In other words, you crafted a bullshit scenario just to support your own position.

Otherwise known as an example... yes.... but not to support my friend... to explain.

Your self-serving bullshit example explained nothing.

[Twilight Imperium]

None of those are proof of the existence of God. Describe one piece of evidence which supports the divinity of Jesus over the divinity of, say, Augustus Caesar.

Hey, that's not fair. Augustus Caesar was a mighty warrior-politician-emperor who inspired and led an empire.
Truly, he was a god, or at least divine in some way.

Or he was one heck of a guy. There's no reason to insert the divinity variable in there.

[Farnhamia]

Yeah, someone posted that, two minutes before you did. Do try to keep up.

I apologize. My internet is being slow.

That's okay, it happens. *summons Guards* Take him away.

[Menassa]

Otherwise known as an example... yes.... but not to support my friend... to explain.

Your self-serving bullshit example explained nothing.

It didn't explain to you how there could be no good without Evil?
And I would assume all examples are self-serving... wouldn't be smart to have an example that goes against the point you are trying to make or explains a different point you aren't trying to make.

[Vareiln]

Hey, that's not fair. Augustus Caesar was a mighty warrior-politician-emperor who inspired and led an empire.
Truly, he was a god, or at least divine in some way.

Or he was one heck of a guy. There's no reason to insert the divinity variable in there.

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[Ozimandiousland]

Atheism is believing in seizing the day

No it's not.

And frankly, I hated that carpe diem shit before Dead Poets Society came out.

I mean that atheism is not spending life doing good shit in hopes of life after death. We believe we have one life and we mean to use it well

[Twilight Imperium]

Or he was one heck of a guy. There's no reason to insert the divinity variable in there.

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->Your head

My bad. I've heard enough people make that point in dead seriousness that that's my default reading of it.

[Vareiln]

No it's not.

And frankly, I hated that carpe diem shit before Dead Poets Society came out.

I mean that atheism is not spending life doing good shit in hopes of life after death. We believe we have one life and we mean to use it well

Not necessarily. I mean, there are atheistic religions.
Atheism simply means not believing in a deity.
That's all.

[Vorkova]

I'm going to go with no.

[Risottia]

We believe we have one life

Can you explain how atheism implies no metempsychosis?

and we mean to use it well

Can you explain how atheism implies some sort of moral teleology?

[Vareiln]

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->Your head

My bad. I've heard enough people make that point in dead seriousness that that's my default reading of it.

It's okay. I got to use my favorite way of saying it was a joke, so, no harm done.