Is Atheism faith?

[Risottia]

My second-ranking terror. Right after folly with brief lapses of lucidity.

Kidney stones for me.... and the Iron Bull...

Iron bull = brazen bull?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_Bull

[The Carlisle]

No, its not faith.

[Genivaria]

It's not a game, it just is.... man.

But thinking on it... comas are really frigging scary.

But they aren't "Evil," they just ... are, man. "Evil" implies intent. Comas have no intent. And anyway, comas are the only method of time-travel we have. Not exactly reliable since you can't tell where (when) you'll arrive or if you'll arrive, but still.

Anyway, I'm not sure how much of this is on topic.

Someone said they could answer the Problem of Evil.
They couldn't.

[Menassa]

Kidney stones for me.... and the Iron Bull...

Iron bull = brazen bull?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_Bull

They're making it out of bronze now?

I'm leaving.

[Doombringers]

hi

[Twilight Imperium]

But they aren't "Evil," they just ... are, man. "Evil" implies intent. Comas have no intent. And anyway, comas are the only method of time-travel we have. Not exactly reliable since you can't tell where (when) you'll arrive or if you'll arrive, but still.

Anyway, I'm not sure how much of this is on topic.

Someone said they could answer the Problem of Evil.
They couldn't.

Hey now, we're still chewing on that

"free will" combined with "flawed Creator" seems to work pretty well.

[Lydenburg]

Atheism is lack of faith, not faith.

[Menassa]

Otherwise known as an example... yes.... but not to support my friend... to explain.


You'll get 30 gold and if you hand out more than the required without touching anyone +3 agility.

I better be getting Piety from this to. I need to impress the local priests after pissing them off.

I didn't know the Life Game had faction relationships... that's awesome.

[Genivaria]

Someone said they could answer the Problem of Evil.
They couldn't.

Hey now, we're still chewing on that

"free will" combined with "flawed Creator" seems to work pretty well.

Flawed creator was never what we were talking about.

[Darwinish Brentsylvania]

Atheists don't believe in any god, so not really

[Farnhamia]

Someone said they could answer the Problem of Evil.
They couldn't.

Hey now, we're still chewing on that

"free will" combined with "flawed Creator" seems to work pretty well.

None of which seems more than marginally related to whether atheism is faith. Another thread on the Problem of Evil is an option.

[Democratic Peoples Society of Mechanisia]

I think we've gotten our answer.

[Risottia]

It's not a game, it just is.... man.

But thinking on it... comas are really frigging scary.

But they aren't "Evil," they just ... are, man. "Evil" implies intent. Comas have no intent.

Then again if we postulate an omnipotent, omniscient deity... falling into a coma, or staying in one, could be seen as the result of the deity's intent.

And anyway, comas are the only method of time-travel we have. Not exactly reliable since you can't tell where (when) you'll arrive or if you'll arrive, but still.

Nah.

We're continuously time-travelling. Forward. And at the rate of 1 s/s.

[Twilight Imperium]

Or to put it another way,

If God = omnipotent, then God = rather Evil.
If God =/= omnipotent, then God = not evil?

[Genivaria]

I better be getting Piety from this to. I need to impress the local priests after pissing them off.

I didn't know the Life Game had faction relationships... that's awesome.

You never play Democracy 2? Turns out EVERYONE's in a faction.

[Genivaria]

Or to put it another way,

If God = omnipotent, then God = rather Evil.
If God =/= omnipotent, then God = not evil?

Then he's not very useful.

[Luveria]

I didn't know the Life Game had faction relationships... that's awesome.

You never play Democracy 2? Turns out EVERYONE's in a faction.

I tried Democracy 3 but I keep getting assassinated by liberals or fundies.

Democracy 2 and 3 are terrible examples of factional relationships.

[Twilight Imperium]

Hey now, we're still chewing on that

"free will" combined with "flawed Creator" seems to work pretty well.

Flawed creator was never what we were talking about.

True, we were talking about Atheism, which is lack of a belief in anything Creator-like. I was asserting that the Problem of Evil isn't a great argument for that, and then got sucked into that, admittedly.

[Farnhamia]

But they aren't "Evil," they just ... are, man. "Evil" implies intent. Comas have no intent.

Then again if we postulate an omnipotent, omniscient deity... falling into a coma, or staying in one, could be seen as the result of the deity's intent.

And anyway, comas are the only method of time-travel we have. Not exactly reliable since you can't tell where (when) you'll arrive or if you'll arrive, but still.

Nah.

We're continuously time-travelling. Forward. And at the rate of 1 s/s.

Faster time-travel. Living isn't time-travel. But we digress.

[Seshephe]

Hey now, we're still chewing on that

"free will" combined with "flawed Creator" seems to work pretty well.

Flawed creator was never what we were talking about.

If a creator force is not omniscient or omnipotent then the problem does disappear...

[Twilight Imperium]

Or to put it another way,

If God = omnipotent, then God = rather Evil.
If God =/= omnipotent, then God = not evil?

Then he's not very useful.

You can be non-omnipotent and still create universes. Just ask Doctor Manhattan.

[Revitopia]

The problem with this thread is it is firmly based on the Tu Quoque fallacy.

"So what that my religion is a faith, YOUR ATHEISM IS A FAITH TOO!"

or more like: I am certain, you are certain, we are both certain and yet the merits for certainty because of the subject do not exist in a manner we can share, if at all.

now

lets argue why my certainty is better than yours.

[Conkerials]

[Genivaria]

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I think we've gotten our answer.

Hahahaha!!!

[Menassa]

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I think we've gotten our answer.

As an humarist, the effort that went into that joke was not worth the joke.