Is Atheism faith?

[MERIZoC]

If Atheism is not a religion then it isn't protected under the first amendment, so it would seem that atheists should agree that it is a religion for their own good.

Freedom of religion also includes freedom from religion.

[Divair]

If Atheism is not a religion then it isn't protected under the first amendment, so it would seem that atheists should agree that it is a religion for their own good.

The Supreme Court disagrees.

[Farnhamia]

If Atheism is not a religion then it isn't protected under the first amendment, so it would seem that atheists should agree that it is a religion for their own good.

The Supreme Court disagrees.

They don't. I spoke to all of them this morning and they don't. Justice Scalia was particularly annoyed when I mentioned your name.

[Divair]

The Supreme Court disagrees.

They don't. I spoke to all of them this morning and they don't. Justice Scalia was particularly annoyed when I mentioned your name.

He's just mad because I borrowed some of his documents for research purposes.

[Farnhamia]

They don't. I spoke to all of them this morning and they don't. Justice Scalia was particularly annoyed when I mentioned your name.

He's just mad because I borrowed some of his documents for research purposes.

How about telling us why they disagree?

[Divair]

He's just mad because I borrowed some of his documents for research purposes.

How about telling us why they disagree?

Kaufman, James v. McCaughtry, Gary. In terms of rights, it is considered equivalent, but it is not a religion.

[Farnhamia]

How about telling us why they disagree?

Kaufman, James v. McCaughtry, Gary. In terms of rights, it is considered equivalent, but it is not a religion.

Never heard of it and neither has WIki. Again, source?

[Sociobiology]

If Atheism is not a religion then it isn't protected under the first amendment, so it would seem that atheists should agree that it is a religion for their own good.

Have you even read the first amendment?

[Sociobiology]

Kaufman, James v. McCaughtry, Gary. In terms of rights, it is considered equivalent, but it is not a religion.

Never heard of it and neither has WIki. Again, source?

really?
Wiki found it on the first try when I looked.
so did caselaw.com

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1467028.html

[Farnhamia]

Never heard of it and neither has WIki. Again, source?

really?
Wiki found it on the first try when I looked.
so did caselaw.com

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1467028.html

Can I help it if they like you better than they do me? Would it have killed Divair to provide a link the first time? I've had teeth pulled with less effort.

[Czechanada]

Without evidence, god merely is a concept.

One cannot have faith in disbelieving a concept.

[Divair]

really?
Wiki found it on the first try when I looked.
so did caselaw.com

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1467028.html

Can I help it if they like you better than they do me? Would it have killed Divair to provide a link the first time? I've had teeth pulled with less effort.

Yes. I'm currently posting from death through a medium.

[Sociobiology]

really?
Wiki found it on the first try when I looked.
so did caselaw.com

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1467028.html

Can I help it if they like you better than they do me? Would it have killed Divair to provide a link the first time? I've had teeth pulled with less effort.

she gave you the case name, that's more than most people on NSG give you.

[Dyakovo]

Atheism is faith. Being Agnostic isn't.

Faith: Believing in something that's not scientifically proven

Faith: There is no god, there can't be a god! A god cannot exist!

Not Faith: I don't necessarily think there's a god, but there could be one. Because I don't have any evidence there's a god I'm not going to worship one. But I will keep my eyes open.

Your "not faith" line is atheism.

[Divair]

Can I help it if they like you better than they do me? Would it have killed Divair to provide a link the first time? I've had teeth pulled with less effort.

she gave you the case name, that's more than most people on NSG give you.

I'm a female now?

[Farnhamia]

she gave you the case name, that's more than most people on NSG give you.

I'm a female now?

You need to check every single day. Weird things happen when you go to sleep.

[Divair]

I'm a female now?

You need to check every single day. Weird things happen when you go to sleep.

I thought Galla was going to cut my hair, not my reproductive organs.

[Dyakovo]

This sentence should win many awards in the "non-sequitur" category.



Some atheists believe in these things. It does not, however, belong analytically to the fact that one is an atheist that they also believe in scientific progress and the ability of mankind to overcome obstacles.

Everyone believes in something. It's called having independent thought. We are all religious because of that.

Absolute bullshit.

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Darwin is a prophet.
Richard Dawkins is an incarnation of Darwin.
Atheist Organizations are churches.
"I have evidence in you."

Atheism is a faith and will always be.

Praise Science!

Congratulations on managing to not say a single thing that is true.

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According to Webster, Faith is a strong belief or trust in someone or something, so Reunited Illinois is correct. They didn't twist the definition of the word at all; so please refrain accusing people of twisting the meaning of words unless you know the definition of the word.

1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction, credence, reliance, dependence; More
optimism, hopefulness, hope, expectation
"he completely justified his boss's faith in him"
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith"
synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination, persuasion, religious persuasion, religious belief, belief, code of belief, ideology, creed, teaching, dogma, doctrine More

On the first, the premise for most atheists is that they have ample explanation in scientific reason over believing in an imaginary being, at best a god is entirely irrelevant. Hence one could argue they have faith in rationality but that's almost a tortology - you don't have faith in what's provable..
On the second, there are no atheist doctrines, and proof is exactly what our convictions are based on.

So, on both, I think faith is entirely a wrong word.

Not to mention the detail that, since we are talking about belief as it applies to religion the applicable definition is #2, it doesn't matter if some (or even all) atheists have belief by definition #1.

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Fine, there is no testable evidence for God, hence one has to have faith to believe in one, there is plenty of testable evidence for science, hence it's not a faith. Since there is no testable evidence for God, it is not a function of faith to disregard the possibility as, at best, irrelevant.

But, just because there is no testable evidence for something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It does make it a reasonable assumption though.

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If Atheism is not a religion then it isn't protected under the first amendment, so it would seem that atheists should agree that it is a religion for their own good.

Absolute Bullshit.

[Len Hyet]

Everyone believes in something. It's called having independent thought. We are all religious because of that.

Absolute bullshit.

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Darwin is a prophet.
Richard Dawkins is an incarnation of Darwin.
Atheist Organizations are churches.
"I have evidence in you."

Atheism is a faith and will always be.

Praise Science!

Congratulations on managing to not say a single thing that is true.

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1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction, credence, reliance, dependence; More
optimism, hopefulness, hope, expectation
"he completely justified his boss's faith in him"
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith"
synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination, persuasion, religious persuasion, religious belief, belief, code of belief, ideology, creed, teaching, dogma, doctrine More

On the first, the premise for most atheists is that they have ample explanation in scientific reason over believing in an imaginary being, at best a god is entirely irrelevant. Hence one could argue they have faith in rationality but that's almost a tortology - you don't have faith in what's provable..
On the second, there are no atheist doctrines, and proof is exactly what our convictions are based on.

So, on both, I think faith is entirely a wrong word.

Not to mention the detail that, since we are talking about belief as it applies to religion the applicable definition is #2, it doesn't matter if some (or even all) atheists have belief by definition #1.

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But, just because there is no testable evidence for something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It does make it a reasonable assumption though.

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If Atheism is not a religion then it isn't protected under the first amendment, so it would seem that atheists should agree that it is a religion for their own good.

Absolute Bullshit.

Pretty sure TSU was being sarcastic/satirical

[Solocon]

If Atheism is not a religion then it isn't protected under the first amendment, so it would seem that atheists should agree that it is a religion for their own good.

Have you even read the first amendment?

I doubt he's been to social studies class.

[Mike the Progressive]

Wrong question to ask the majority of Generalites...

No. But it can be though when people think the world's woes can be cured by the absence of religion. At that point, it becomes blind faith in the absolute evil of religion and the absolute goodness of humanity.

No one believes this.

I can find several posts on this forum that say otherwise...though it's not as bad as it once was.

[Haktiva]

Atheism is the anti-religion religion

[Dyakovo]

Atheism is the anti-religion religion

No, atheism is in no way a religion. Nor is it inherently anti-religion.

[Haktiva]

Atheism is the anti-religion religion

No, atheism is in no way a religion. Nor is it inherently anti-religion.

mostly joking there. run into a lot of haters form that "belief" system, though I do know a few that are absolutely wonderful people. Freedom of and from religion should be something easy to implement, but we humans are a bunch of hateful bastards who seem to survive by causing each other grief.

[Seriong]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

And so on.

I disagree. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

Knock it off you two.