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Postby Patistan » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:25 pm

George w.Bush
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:30 pm

'Merica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Sinovet » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:31 pm

Imperial Avantia wrote:'Merica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby United Traders » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:39 pm

American Union wrote:Andrew Johnson. He totally botched Reconstruction and pardoned the Confederate traitors. Thanks to him, a North-South reconciliation was never achieved and we missed out on the opportunity of building a stronger identity. Did I mention how he fucked up Reconstruction and let terrorism run rampant in the South?

The Confederates weren't traitors, it was their right to leave the United States and Abe Lincoln denied them that right. So I have to say he was one of the worst presidents we have ever had, along with Obama and the 2nd Bush

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Postby Imperial Avantia » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:43 pm

United Traders wrote:
American Union wrote:Andrew Johnson. He totally botched Reconstruction and pardoned the Confederate traitors. Thanks to him, a North-South reconciliation was never achieved and we missed out on the opportunity of building a stronger identity. Did I mention how he fucked up Reconstruction and let terrorism run rampant in the South?

The Confederates weren't traitors, it was their right to leave the United States and Abe Lincoln denied them that right. So I have to say he was one of the worst presidents we have ever had, along with Obama and the 2nd Bush

I am guessing you are from another nation, because if you were to say that in front of a 'Merican Citizen you would be impaled on the nearest flag.

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Postby United Traders » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:46 pm

Bralia wrote:George Washington. Son of a bitch was horrible to the Native American cultures of the time. There's a pretty damn good reason why the Iroquois dubbed him the "Town Destroyer". The man was no saint, nor should he ever be.

George Washington was the best president in history, had we not fucked over the natives we would still just be a small nation.

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Postby Patistan » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:49 pm

United Traders wrote:
Bralia wrote:George Washington. Son of a bitch was horrible to the Native American cultures of the time. There's a pretty damn good reason why the Iroquois dubbed him the "Town Destroyer". The man was no saint, nor should he ever be.

George Washington was the best president in history, had we not fucked over the natives we would still just be a small nation.


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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:50 pm

Imperial Avantia wrote:'Merica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, cultural stereotypes and political ignorance. You must be edgy and smart.
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:52 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Imperial Avantia wrote:'Merica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, cultural stereotypes and political ignorance. You must be edgy and smart.

So much 'merican swag can only reply by saying.....

'Merica
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Postby United Traders » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:56 pm

Imperial Avantia wrote:
United Traders wrote:The Confederates weren't traitors, it was their right to leave the United States and Abe Lincoln denied them that right. So I have to say he was one of the worst presidents we have ever had, along with Obama and the 2nd Bush

I am guessing you are from another nation, because if you were to say that in front of a 'Merican Citizen you would be impaled on the nearest flag.

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I am an American citizen and if any 'Merican Citizen would do such a thing then they clearly don't belong in this country since they don't respect my opinion and would kill me for it. Go 'Murica!

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Postby United Traders » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:57 pm

Patistan wrote:
United Traders wrote:George Washington was the best president in history, had we not fucked over the natives we would still just be a small nation.


Well it would be better that way

I have to disagree on that

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Postby Confederation of the Highlands » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:58 pm

United Traders wrote:
Imperial Avantia wrote:I am guessing you are from another nation, because if you were to say that in front of a 'Merican Citizen you would be impaled on the nearest flag.

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I am an American citizen and if any 'Merican Citizen would do such a thing then they clearly don't belong in this country since they don't respect my opinion and would kill me for it. Go 'Murica!

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Postby Confederation of the Highlands » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:01 am

Patistan wrote:
United Traders wrote:George Washington was the best president in history, had we not fucked over the natives we would still just be a small nation.


Well it would be better that way

Must I mention the massacre of Armenian Christians under the Ottoman Empire. At least we civilized the natives, not straight up commit genocide. At least, most of us didn't.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:02 am

United Traders wrote:
Bralia wrote:George Washington. Son of a bitch was horrible to the Native American cultures of the time. There's a pretty damn good reason why the Iroquois dubbed him the "Town Destroyer". The man was no saint, nor should he ever be.

George Washington was the best president in history, had we not fucked over the natives we would still just be a small nation.

Just a moment ago you were criticizing a president for not letting the nation shrink. Makes it hard to take you seriously.
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Postby Confederation of the Highlands » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:05 am

Sun Wukong wrote:
United Traders wrote:George Washington was the best president in history, had we not fucked over the natives we would still just be a small nation.

Just a moment ago you were criticizing a president for not letting the nation shrink. Makes it hard to take you seriously.

Expanding a nation and a War of Independence are quite different.

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Postby United Traders » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:05 am

Sun Wukong wrote:
United Traders wrote:George Washington was the best president in history, had we not fucked over the natives we would still just be a small nation.

Just a moment ago you were criticizing a president for not letting the nation shrink. Makes it hard to take you seriously.

For one thing they were completly different situations. The natives were not under the protection of the Constitution, the states that left the union had the right to.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:09 am

United Traders wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Just a moment ago you were criticizing a president for not letting the nation shrink. Makes it hard to take you seriously.

For one thing they were completly different situations. The natives were not under the protection of the Constitution, the states that left the union had the right to.

Ah. So a wretched cacophony of human suffering and pathos are fine so long as they're not under the protection of a document you just invented. How silly of me.
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Postby Confederation of the Highlands » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:10 am

Sun Wukong wrote:
United Traders wrote:For one thing they were completly different situations. The natives were not under the protection of the Constitution, the states that left the union had the right to.

Ah. So a wretched cacophony of human suffering and pathos are fine so long as they're not under the protection of a document you just invented. How silly of me.

Just business as usual in human civilization.

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Postby Death Metal » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:11 am

United Traders wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Just a moment ago you were criticizing a president for not letting the nation shrink. Makes it hard to take you seriously.

For one thing they were completly different situations. The natives were not under the protection of the Constitution, the states that left the union had the right to.


And they were allowed to.

Then they invaded Union soil in an unprovoked and cowardly attack.
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Postby United Traders » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:13 am

Death Metal wrote:
United Traders wrote:For one thing they were completly different situations. The natives were not under the protection of the Constitution, the states that left the union had the right to.


And they were allowed to.

Then they invaded Union soil in an unprovoked and cowardly attack.

I don't know who taught you history but the CSA never initiated war between the United States.

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Postby Confederation of the Highlands » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:13 am

Death Metal wrote:
United Traders wrote:For one thing they were completly different situations. The natives were not under the protection of the Constitution, the states that left the union had the right to.


And they were allowed to.

Then they invaded Union soil in an unprovoked and cowardly attack.

Union soil?! It was in the sovereign state of South Carolina. That would be like saying France had no right to get Alsace-Lorraine back from Germany after WWI.

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Postby United Traders » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:13 am

Sun Wukong wrote:
United Traders wrote:For one thing they were completly different situations. The natives were not under the protection of the Constitution, the states that left the union had the right to.

Ah. So a wretched cacophony of human suffering and pathos are fine so long as they're not under the protection of a document you just invented. How silly of me.

I never said that invading the natives land was right.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:15 am

United Traders wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
And they were allowed to.

Then they invaded Union soil in an unprovoked and cowardly attack.

I don't know who taught you history but the CSA never initiated war between the United States.

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Postby The Fraticelli Papacy » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:15 am

All have systemically allowed the whim of the fourth estate to run amuck and spread their propaganda. But the worst violators had to be our most recent three. Obama cannot hold his country together, for he is not the leader the left nor the right want; George W. Bush allowed himself to be crucified by the fourth estate; Bill Clinton pretended that it's okay to violate the nation's trust, as well as his wretched wife who didn't divorce him for political purposes.
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Postby The Fraticelli Papacy » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:16 am

Confederation of the Highlands wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
And they were allowed to.

Then they invaded Union soil in an unprovoked and cowardly attack.

Union soil?! It was in the sovereign state of South Carolina. That would be like saying France had no right to get Alsace-Lorraine back from Germany after WWI.

That's a really awful example... the CSA never existed before the civil war.
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