Worst American president in history?

[The Black Forrest]

You cannot support peace and voluntary exchange while supporting private property, which depends upon coercion to survive. Minarchism is a useless term. Anyone who advocates the minimal amount of government they deem necessary is a minarchist. Anyone from an anarchist to a fascist could apply the term minarchism to their beliefs as long as they believe they are advocating the minimal amount of government they deem necessary. That is illustrated quite well with your advocacy of a government which only acts as a violent entity and does nothing to actually help the populace or promote sentient wellbeing.

I prefer private property among citizens equally protected under the law, to surrendering these rights to a government, politician and bureaucrat.

Eminent domain does have it's use when something good can happen for the whole.

There are the abuses though such as the recent case of ED for a private entity.

[The Black Forrest]

You cannot support peace and voluntary exchange while supporting private property, which depends upon coercion to survive. Minarchism is a useless term. Anyone who advocates the minimal amount of government they deem necessary is a minarchist. Anyone from an anarchist to a fascist could apply the term minarchism to their beliefs as long as they believe they are advocating the minimal amount of government they deem necessary. That is illustrated quite well with your advocacy of a government which only acts as a violent entity and does nothing to actually help the populace or promote sentient wellbeing.

Government should only use coercion to adjudicate disputes between citizens, otherwise politicians and bureaucrats have no business meddling in the voluntary and peaceful exchange of adults.

If people weren't assholes, you wouldn't need government or the law.

[Pravengria]

Woodrow Wilson.
In addition to being racist and pro-segregation He promoted & signed;
*The Federal reserve act; thus re-instituting the central banking & fractional reserve systems eradicated by Jefferson..
*The ratification of the sixteenth amendment; Thus allowing the federal government to impose a general tax on Income during peace time.(an admittedly rare state these days...).

The Federal Reserve is necessary tbh. I also don't have a problem with the 16th as long as its a low flat tax.

Centralized banking running on a transaction of federal bonds for fiat currency with a fractional reserve system and infinite resource is a good idea?

[The Gregorach]

Abraham Lincoln. Tyrant.

Wilson and Obama would be second and third, although not necessarily in that order. Talk to me again in a few years.

[Death Metal]

The Federal Reserve is necessary tbh. I also don't have a problem with the 16th as long as its a low flat tax.

Centralized banking running on a transaction of federal bonds for fiat currency with a fractional reserve system and infinite resource is a good idea?

Compared to the alternatives? Yes.

[Death Metal]

Government should only use coercion to adjudicate disputes between citizens, otherwise politicians and bureaucrats have no business meddling in the voluntary and peaceful exchange of adults.

If people weren't assholes, you wouldn't need government or the law.

Or capitalist industry for that matter.

[Pravengria]

Centralized banking running on a transaction of federal bonds for fiat currency with a fractional reserve system and infinite resource is a good idea?

Compared to the alternatives? Yes.

Except for the fact that the system produces a massive amount of debt if not regulated properly, debt which can create interest and force people to never be able to completely pay off their debt, strictly because they have to continue to pay off the growing interest created. Not to mention that the usual method to pay off debt, is to pay it off by making more money which drives the currency down and increases inflation, slowly degrading the worth of it over a period of time.

For example, if the US government feels it doesn't have enough currency in circulation, they go to the Reserve, give them bonds for fiat currency. The point of this is to promise the Reserve that the Government will eventually pay them back. The only issue is, if the government lacks the finances to pay back this transaction, interest builds, not to mention if some of that currency was used to try and pay off other debts owed, then the Government lacks the finances to pay either party back, it then goes back to the Reserve with yet more bonds, to gain more fiat to pay off one party so they can accumulate the wealth to pay back the reserve. The issue with this is that the moment the reserve prints more money, it requires more money to pay off both the interest and the original debt owed to the other party.

[EBIN SPURDO xDDDDDDDD]

Obongo
Best would be Reagan

[Neuhausen]

Probably Nixon.

Best is Reagan.

Why and why?

Nixon is the only US president who has resigned.

Well Reagan destroyed USSR.

[Edward Richtofen]

Reagan

[Evil the Great]

I would say Andrew Jackson, but I'm going with Andrew Johnson.

Lol. He killed the privately-owned central bank that kept fucking over america. He was a glorious president.

For worst president, look at the one who re-established it: Woodrow Wilson. US involvment in ww1 also led to catastrophic results.

[Kelinfort]

Why and why?

Nixon is the only US president who has resigned.

Well Reagan destroyed USSR.

Exactly, he went to the Politburo and killed every one of those damn commies.
/sarcasm.

[Bralia]

Wow, what a productive post! I've never seen such a post of such quality before. I tip my hat to you, sir, your clearly stated argument has greatly moved me.

Are you mocking me because it is a struggle to take you seriously?

Yes. Yes, I did. Do you not have a counter? I see that a few others have. Please do tell me how the slaughter of the Native Americans is justified in your mind.

[Duvniask]

Why and why?

Nixon is the only US president who has resigned.

Well Reagan destroyed USSR.

No, he didn't.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

FDR, FDR, FDR.

FDR got the US outta the Great Depression, because of him, the 50's up to the 80's were good economically.

Worst was by far FDR, he gave those damn poor a teat to suck on!

These are tragically wrong misconceptions not based on any serious factual sources. Sure, he gave the poor stuff with his luscious alphabet soup of federal programs, but in most other ways he fucked them over severely. Wages only went up by 9% during the 1930s as opposed to 40% in the 20s - despite the fact that Roosevelt loved price-fixing - and income mobility was hampered significantly. To top it all off, the New Deal was funded by regressive excise taxes. Programs that were supposed to help the poor pay for stuff were effectively funded by the poor. Being comfortably poor is much worse than having the opportunity to better yourself.

Nixon is the only US president who has resigned.

Well Reagan destroyed USSR.

No, he didn't.

Yes, he did.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

I prefer private property among citizens equally protected under the law, to surrendering these rights to a government, politician and bureaucrat.

Eminent domain does have it's use when something good can happen for the whole.

INDIVIDUALITY IS SIN. COMMUNITY IS CORE. WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

[European Socialist Republic]

Eminent domain does have it's use when something good can happen for the whole.

INDIVIDUALITY IS SIN. COMMUNITY IS CORE. WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

Are you comparing eminent domain to slavery now?

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

INDIVIDUALITY IS SIN. COMMUNITY IS CORE. WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

Are you comparing eminent domain to slavery now?

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

[European Socialist Republic]

Are you comparing eminent domain to slavery now?

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

It was a question. Not my fault your statement was so unclear. Explain to me what you meant to say then.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Obongo
Best would be Reagan

Obama's not the worst. In the top 10 or 15 worst, but he's easily topped by FDR, Wilson, Nixon, LBJ, Johnson, Johnson, etc.

[Caltarania]

George Washington.

He made 'Murica a nation. 'Nuff said.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

It was a question. Not my fault your statement was so unclear. Explain to me what you meant to say then.

Forrest said that eminent domain can be beneficial "for the good of the whole". This statement (and phrases like "for the general welfare" and "the common good") have long been used to supersede individual rights in favour of the will of the majority.

[European Socialist Republic]

It was a question. Not my fault your statement was so unclear. Explain to me what you meant to say then.

Forrest said that eminent domain can be beneficial "for the good of the whole". This statement (and phrases like "for the general welfare" and "the common good") have long been used to supersede individual rights in favour of the will of the majority.

Am I correct if I guess that you're against the General Welfare clause?

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

Forrest said that eminent domain can be beneficial "for the good of the whole". This statement (and phrases like "for the general welfare" and "the common good") have long been used to supersede individual rights in favour of the will of the majority.

Am I correct if I guess that you're against the General Welfare clause?

Not necessarily. It's just poorly defined. That clause could be used to justify anything from tax hikes to slavery. I recognise, of course, that some things are indeed needed for the common good - like war-time rationing, for example. But far too often is this phrase, and its variants, abused to usurp individual liberties.

[European Socialist Republic]

Am I correct if I guess that you're against the General Welfare clause?

Not necessarily. It's just poorly defined. That clause could be used to justify anything from tax hikes to slavery. I recognise, of course, that some things are indeed needed for the common good - like war-time rationing, for example. But far too often is this phrase, and its variants, abused to usurp individual liberties.

And you think eminent domain is such an abuse?