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With the 11th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State.

Idzequitch wrote:Head scratcher of the draft so far is definitely Jacksonville taking Fowler. Your defense is actually decent, but your offense is awful. Why draft a defensive player? This is why Jacksonville will remain impotent for years to come.

Wrong.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/4/29/ ... raft-needs

"Jaguars Top 5 Draft Needs

1. EDGE rusher - The Jaguars had a lot of sacks last season, but they were dead last in bringing pressures. This is a case where the sacks didn't really tell the story of the Jaguars pass rush. Not only that, but the top three LEO edge rushers currently on the Jaguars roster are Chris Clemons (33 years old), Andre Branch (injury history, disappointing production, final year of contract) and Chris Smith (2014 5th round pick, barely played). This will be a position the Jaguars upgrade in the draft, the question is just where."

Beyond disappointed the Titans went with Mariota instead of trading down.

With the 12th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Danny Shelton, DT, Washington.

With the 13th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford.

Bythyrona wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:Head scratcher of the draft so far is definitely Jacksonville taking Fowler. Your defense is actually decent, but your offense is awful. Why draft a defensive player? This is why Jacksonville will remain impotent for years to come.

Wrong.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/4/29/ ... raft-needs

"Jaguars Top 5 Draft Needs

1. EDGE rusher - The Jaguars had a lot of sacks last season, but they were dead last in bringing pressures. This is a case where the sacks didn't really tell the story of the Jaguars pass rush. Not only that, but the top three LEO edge rushers currently on the Jaguars roster are Chris Clemons (33 years old), Andre Branch (injury history, disappointing production, final year of contract) and Chris Smith (2014 5th round pick, barely played). This will be a position the Jaguars upgrade in the draft, the question is just where."

But it doesn't matter how good that defense is if they can't score a damn point. You don't score points, you lose. It ain't rocket science. Yes, it was a need, but no, it was not even nearly their biggest need.

With the 14th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville.

With the 15th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the San Diego Chargers select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin.

With the 16th pick of the NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select Kevin Johnson, CB, Wake Forest.

Outer Sparta wrote:With the 15th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the San Diego Chargers select Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin.

I think that has the potential to be a pick the Chargers fondly look back upon 10 years from now. It's a good pick.

With the 17th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers select Arik Armstead, DL, Oregon.

With the 18th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Marcus Peters, CB, Washington.

Idzequitch wrote:

Bythyrona wrote:Wrong.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/4/29/ ... raft-needs

"Jaguars Top 5 Draft Needs

1. EDGE rusher - The Jaguars had a lot of sacks last season, but they were dead last in bringing pressures. This is a case where the sacks didn't really tell the story of the Jaguars pass rush. Not only that, but the top three LEO edge rushers currently on the Jaguars roster are Chris Clemons (33 years old), Andre Branch (injury history, disappointing production, final year of contract) and Chris Smith (2014 5th round pick, barely played). This will be a position the Jaguars upgrade in the draft, the question is just where."

But it doesn't matter how good that defense is if they can't score a damn point. You don't score points, you lose. It ain't rocket science. Yes, it was a need, but no, it was not even nearly their biggest need.

The Jaguars drafted for offense last year (6 of 9 picks were offensive players). They haven't even have time to develop their young players yet. Matching the biggest need without reaching is not a bad strategy.

Yes, pass rusher was their biggest need. "They need offense" does not mean the glaring hole in their pass rush since the departure of Jason Babin is any better.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/1/12/ ... ency-draft

With the 19th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Cameron Erving, G, Florida State.

Bythyrona wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:But it doesn't matter how good that defense is if they can't score a damn point. You don't score points, you lose. It ain't rocket science. Yes, it was a need, but no, it was not even nearly their biggest need.

The Jaguars drafted for offense last year (6 of 9 picks were offensive players). They haven't even have time to develop their young players yet. Matching the biggest need without reaching is not a bad strategy.

A fair point. I still don't think Fowler was their best option, but only time will tell whether the pick will pay off or not.

With the 20th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Nelson Agholor, WR, USC.

Idzequitch wrote:

Bythyrona wrote:The Jaguars drafted for offense last year (6 of 9 picks were offensive players). They haven't even have time to develop their young players yet. Matching the biggest need without reaching is not a bad strategy.

A fair point. I still don't think Fowler was their best option, but only time will tell whether the pick will pay off or not.

I don't see a glaring issue with Fowler so much as the principle of ever drafting a DE so early, but that's a completely separate issue. Personally, he looks like a complete package for a player, flashes what I believe will make a great NFL talent, and he has no glaring off-the-field problems. I think it's a good pick.

The 49ers didn't go with an inside linebacker? What? I mean, they're going to be absolute garbage in the NFL this year regardless, but you can soften the blow.

With the 21st pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M.

Bythyrona wrote:
The 49ers didn't go with an inside linebacker? What? I mean, they're going to be absolute garbage in the NFL this year regardless, but you can soften the blow.

OMG we agree on something? Wonders never cease.

With the 22nd pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Bud Dupree, OLB, Kentucky.

I'm waiting to see if Chip "Crackhead" Kelly is going to offer his soul for Mariota. I really don't want the Titans to tether their hopes to a 50/50 bust chance of a QB.

Ogbuehi has insane pass blocking skills. The Bengals once gambled on a tackle with knee problems before that went by the name of Munoz. Good pickup, I think.

Outer Sparta wrote:With the 22nd pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Bud Dupree, OLB, Kentucky.

..... As a Steelers fan, I'm not thrilled with this pick. Not at all.

Also, Broncos trading up... Who do they want?

Idzequitch wrote:

Bythyrona wrote:
The 49ers didn't go with an inside linebacker? What? I mean, they're going to be absolute garbage in the NFL this year regardless, but you can soften the blow.

OMG we agree on something? Wonders never cease.

Their second ILB is replacement level-to-solid and was on the trading block. Damn right we do.

With the 23rd pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Shane Ray, DE, Missouri.

I will sign out as of now. Somebody give us live coverage of the rest of the first round.