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Will the Broncos make the playoffs in 2016?

Yes
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No
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The Raiders have a better chance
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Postby Spoder » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:49 pm

Bevell's paycheck has to drop by least 100 grand.

Maybe even a whole digit.
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Postby Kuango » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:54 pm

Bevell just completely through the game away. The Seahawks had the game in the bag and decided to have them throw. Unbelievable.

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:57 pm

Kuango wrote:Bevell just completely through the game away. The Seahawks had the game in the bag and decided to have them throw. Unbelievable.


They were what, half a yard away from the end zone? Lynch could've gotten the ball home with his arms and legs tied behind his back.

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Postby Spoder » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:59 pm

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Postby Kuango » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:01 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Kuango wrote:Bevell just completely through the game away. The Seahawks had the game in the bag and decided to have them throw. Unbelievable.


They were what, half a yard away from the end zone? Lynch could've gotten the ball home with his arms and legs tied behind his back.

You honestly think throwing and possibly having the ball intercepted is better than Lynch just charging through half a yard?

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Postby Corrian » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:05 pm

Kuango wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:
They were what, half a yard away from the end zone? Lynch could've gotten the ball home with his arms and legs tied behind his back.

You honestly think throwing and possibly having the ball intercepted is better than Lynch just charging through half a yard?

With Marshawn Lynch holding the ball? Yes.
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:09 pm

Kuango wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:
They were what, half a yard away from the end zone? Lynch could've gotten the ball home with his arms and legs tied behind his back.

You honestly think throwing and possibly having the ball intercepted is better than Lynch just charging through half a yard?


Tell that to Darrell Bevell.

Meanwhile, Carroll's taken the blame for the call. But it's painfully obvious that he's just protecting his coach from further, and frankly well-deserved scrutiny.
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Postby Shofercia » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:11 pm

Can't believe the idiot commentators actually alluded to deflategate at the Superbowl. What the actual fuck?

Katy Perry's half time show was decent.

Game was amazing until the last minute, until Wilson messed up that pass. One the upside, Seahawks will not be able to resign him for less. I hope those two meet again, the game was truly amazing.

That's my impression.
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Postby Bythyrona » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:14 pm

Shofercia wrote:Can't believe the idiot commentators actually alluded to deflategate at the Superbowl. What the actual fuck?

Considering it was a huge controversy, regardless of your stance on it, it's a much bigger deal to not say SOMETHING about it.
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Postby Jamjai » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:16 pm

I had a pretty big doubt that the Patriots were going to beat the Seahawks
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:16 pm

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Wisconsin9 wrote:Are you kidding? It was the worst call. Going for a field goal would have been a better call.


I can tell I should take you seriously. A pass wasn't a bad call, THAT pass was a bad call.

Of course not. Passes are good plenty of times. There were some very good ones in that game. But a pass two feet from the goal line when you're down four points with twenty seconds on the clock in the biggest game of the year with an excellent running back who could punch right through will always be incredibly fucking stupid.
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Postby Kuango » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:20 pm

Jamjai wrote:I had a pretty big doubt that the Patriots were going to beat the Seahawks

And in a way they actually didn't, if not for that fuckup of a play right at the very end, the Seahawks would've taken the Lombardi.

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Postby Bralia » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:20 pm

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Postby Estva » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:26 pm

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Estva wrote:Would it really have? Even if it was pulled off it would have been innovative maybe, but I don't see it as that groundbreaking.


To call a pass into the centre of a defence packed to try and contain Lynch and expecting either a running play from him or a pass to a wide receiver? It might not be considered ground breaking, but brave and brilliant? Yes, it would have been.

Brave and risky if it worked. But it didn't, and that is why you lambasted for losing the game using a risky, and ridiculous play.
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Postby Shofercia » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:27 pm

Bythyrona wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Can't believe the idiot commentators actually alluded to deflategate at the Superbowl. What the actual fuck?

Considering it was a huge controversy, regardless of your stance on it, it's a much bigger deal to not say SOMETHING about it.


Not really. They've said plenty about it before the game. There are those who love controversies, and those who just love sports. That's why most sport segments have controversies, followed by actual games. When I sit down to watch the game, I don't want the game to be polluted by that crap, and I'm quite certain I'm not the only one. Deflategate is something to talk about when discussing Goodell; it's not something to talk about during the actual game. As a result of their stupidity, I muted whatever the fuck they were talking about during halftime show, and skipped all of the halftime ads. I'm certain that if fans do this repeatedly, they'll learn to talk about the game, during the game.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:30 pm

Estva wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
To call a pass into the centre of a defence packed to try and contain Lynch and expecting either a running play from him or a pass to a wide receiver? It might not be considered ground breaking, but brave and brilliant? Yes, it would have been.

Brave and risky if it worked. But it didn't, and that is why you lambasted for losing the game using a risky, and ridiculous play.


Yes, that's what I said. It's why I put in all those qualifiers about Butler being a step further over and such.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:32 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Bythyrona wrote:Considering it was a huge controversy, regardless of your stance on it, it's a much bigger deal to not say SOMETHING about it.


Not really. They've said plenty about it before the game. There are those who love controversies, and those who just love sports. That's why most sport segments have controversies, followed by actual games. When I sit down to watch the game, I don't want the game to be polluted by that crap, and I'm quite certain I'm not the only one. Deflategate is something to talk about when discussing Goodell; it's not something to talk about during the actual game. As a result of their stupidity, I muted whatever the fuck they were talking about during halftime show, and skipped all of the halftime ads. I'm certain that if fans do this repeatedly, they'll learn to talk about the game, during the game.


What were they meant to talk about during the bit where the camera was stuck in the pen holding the balls?

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:32 pm

Estva wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
To call a pass into the centre of a defence packed to try and contain Lynch and expecting either a running play from him or a pass to a wide receiver? It might not be considered ground breaking, but brave and brilliant? Yes, it would have been.

Brave and risky if it worked. But it didn't, and that is why you lambasted for losing the game using a risky, and ridiculous play.

Brave and risky and still stupid.
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Postby Estva » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:32 pm

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Estva wrote:Brave and risky if it worked. But it didn't, and that is why you lambasted for losing the game using a risky, and ridiculous play.


Yes, that's what I said. It's why I put in all those qualifiers about Butler being a step further over and such.

Relying on such a thing happening is not a sound play.
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:32 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Costa Aluria wrote:2nd down with 20 seconds on the half yard line, one timeout. I'm no football genius, but obviously you run it there no matter who your RB is, regardless of having BeastMode. If you don't get in, call your timeout, throw it on third. If it is incomplete on third, it comes down to one last play, your choice of run or pass. WTF?

Tomorrow is Groundhog Day. Does that mean Darrell Bevell gets to get up and have a second chance at making the right play call?


2nd down, defense is expecting run, so you run play action and put the ball up in the air behind the crashing defense. If you run on 2nd down and the defense stuffs you, they know you're going in the air on 3rd down since you just used your last time out.

never mind the fact that the pats d had already proven that time and time again that they couldn't stop lynch, you still have the best running QB in the league. Send Lynch on a fake up the middle, then have Wilson go around the outside.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:35 pm

Estva wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Yes, that's what I said. It's why I put in all those qualifiers about Butler being a step further over and such.

Relying on such a thing happening is not a sound play.


So you can say for certain that if he'd gone with what all the armchair coaches in this thread are saying (not all of whom agree by the way) he was guaranteed to get the score?

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Postby Shofercia » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:36 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Not really. They've said plenty about it before the game. There are those who love controversies, and those who just love sports. That's why most sport segments have controversies, followed by actual games. When I sit down to watch the game, I don't want the game to be polluted by that crap, and I'm quite certain I'm not the only one. Deflategate is something to talk about when discussing Goodell; it's not something to talk about during the actual game. As a result of their stupidity, I muted whatever the fuck they were talking about during halftime show, and skipped all of the halftime ads. I'm certain that if fans do this repeatedly, they'll learn to talk about the game, during the game.


What were they meant to talk about during the bit where the camera was stuck in the pen holding the balls?


Possible strategy that could be utilized by the teams; explanation of rule interpretations by refs for people just tuning in; history and background of the coaches and players on the field;

Just because the cameramen do something stupid, doesn't mean the commentators have to follow.
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Postby Estva » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:36 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Estva wrote:Relying on such a thing happening is not a sound play.


So you can say for certain that if he'd gone with what all the armchair coaches in this thread are saying (not all of whom agree by the way) he was guaranteed to get the score?

I can in no way guarantee they would succeed and get a touchdown, but I can say with some certainty that the play used was inferior to the options at hand. As had been shown, it didn't work.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:39 pm

Estva wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So you can say for certain that if he'd gone with what all the armchair coaches in this thread are saying (not all of whom agree by the way) he was guaranteed to get the score?

I can in no way guarantee they would succeed and get a touchdown, but I can say with some certainty that the play used was inferior to the options at hand. As had been shown, it didn't work.


And if the other plays available had been tried and not scored, would they automatically have become inferior? Arguing that from hindsight is just silly.

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Postby Estva » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:40 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Estva wrote:I can in no way guarantee they would succeed and get a touchdown, but I can say with some certainty that the play used was inferior to the options at hand. As had been shown, it didn't work.


And if the other plays available had been tried and not scored, would they automatically have become inferior? Arguing that from hindsight is just silly.

No, I am saying this play was inferior because it was risky, very risky. It being lauded as brave and innovative, just because that's how it would have been seen were it successful is equally asinine.
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